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Post by maplehurst on Apr 15, 2014 18:20:17 GMT -5
Two small, not so famous, New York State colleges made some history in the past month. Little Clarkson of Potsdam won the NCAA Women's Ice Hockey Division I Championship. Even smaller, Union College of Schenectady, won the NCAA Men's Ice Hockey Division I Championship. In each case, the losing team was the University of Minnesota. Is there a chance for another small New York State school to do the impossible in sports?, maybe a school from the southwest corner of the State?
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Post by sneakers on Apr 15, 2014 20:38:17 GMT -5
Maybe if we had a D1 hockey team. . .
I grew up near Union and was happy to see their win. They have never offered scholarships so it is amazing that they put together a team that beat BC and Minnesota in the Frozen Four. It will be interesting to see what impact it has on their applications next year. Go Dutchmen!
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Post by az63 on Apr 15, 2014 21:33:06 GMT -5
The men's Frozen Four was really entertaining - congrats to Union College, a team with only 1 drafted player and, if I heard correctly, no scholarships!!
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Post by jjjacks17 on Apr 15, 2014 21:39:31 GMT -5
The men's Frozen Four was really entertaining - congrats to Union College, a team with only 1 drafted player and, if I heard correctly, no scholarships!! If Shibazz goes to bed starving I wonder how these guys could ever survive. |
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Post by bbb on Apr 16, 2014 3:18:55 GMT -5
How can a team with no scholarships win a D1 championship in a pretty major sport?!?
Has Union always been a power or is this recent. I was thinking they were big in the 80s, but I might be thinking of RPI?
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Post by bas on Apr 16, 2014 7:11:20 GMT -5
RPI was good in the 80s. They won the National Championship in 1985. Adam Oates was on that team. Joe Juneau may have been too, if not he was there right around that time. I don't think Union was division 1 until the 90s.
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Post by Saulius Dumbliauskas on Apr 16, 2014 7:54:53 GMT -5
D1 Hockey seems like it could be a strong sport at Bonas. So close to Canada and in the WNY hockey hotbed. I've been to a couple D1 Hockey games in the Boston area and you don't need incredible facilities to host these teams. I think we have enough already.
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Post by jjjacks17 on Apr 16, 2014 11:06:22 GMT -5
The best young hockey players are either playing in the pro leagues in Europe or in junior leagues in Canada. This very much helps to level the playing field in D1 hockey. Plus there are less teams to compete with. Still an amazing accomplishment though.
We sure aren't playing D1 hockey in the Olean rec center though Saulius.
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Post by bbb on Apr 16, 2014 12:17:49 GMT -5
The best young hockey players are either playing in the pro leagues in Europe or in junior leagues in Canada. This very much helps to level the playing field in D1 hockey. Plus there are less teams to compete with. Still an amazing accomplishment though. We sure aren't playing D1 hockey in the Olean rec center though Saulius. Thanks for explainging to me how this could happen. |
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Post by az63 on Apr 16, 2014 13:15:32 GMT -5
The best young hockey players are either playing in the pro leagues in Europe or in junior leagues in Canada. This very much helps to level the playing field in D1 hockey. Plus there are less teams to compete with. Still an amazing accomplishment though. We sure aren't playing D1 hockey in the Olean rec center though Saulius. Thanks for explainging to me how this could happen. While it is true that some of the best are playing in Europe & Canadian Junior leagues and don't go to college, most of the powerhouse college hockey teams are loaded with scholarship players and many of those have already been drafted by NHL teams. I believe the announcer said that Union's final game opponent, Minnesota, had 19 players on scholarship. If you check the rosters of most college hockey teams many of the players played at top hockey boarding schools, one of the best is Shattuck-St. Mary's in Minnesota, or Canadian, US & European Junior leagues. |
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Post by maplehurst on Apr 16, 2014 20:39:23 GMT -5
Shattuck-St. Mary's is good in both men and women's hockey.
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Post by sbu79 on Apr 17, 2014 11:34:05 GMT -5
While it is true that some of the best are playing in Europe & Canadian Junior leagues and don't go to college, most of the powerhouse college hockey teams are loaded with scholarship players and many of those have already been drafted by NHL teams. I believe the announcer said that Union's final game opponent, Minnesota, had 19 players on scholarship. If you check the rosters of most college hockey teams many of the players played at top hockey boarding schools, one of the best is Shattuck-St. Mary's in Minnesota, or Canadian, US & European Junior leagues. It is not a stretch to say Minnesota men's hockey is the 2nd most popular sports team in the state. The expectations are sky high and the pressure to bring in the cream of high school players is intense. A former coach had a policy of only bringing Minnesota kids into the program, but that has gone by the wayside after several years of not contending. There was a bit of an attitude going into the game with Union that we Bona fans have all felt that the little school could never complete with the Gophers. Not disappointed with the outcome on that basis. |
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Post by az63 on Apr 17, 2014 11:56:36 GMT -5
There was a bit of an attitude going into the game with Union that we Bona fans have all felt that the little school could never complete with the Gophers. Not disappointed with the outcome on that basis. Correct sbu79 - great victory for the "little guys". |
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Post by jjjacks17 on Apr 17, 2014 12:22:53 GMT -5
While it is true that some of the best are playing in Europe & Canadian Junior leagues and don't go to college, most of the powerhouse college hockey teams are loaded with scholarship players and many of those have already been drafted by NHL teams. I believe the announcer said that Union's final game opponent, Minnesota, had 19 players on scholarship. If you check the rosters of most college hockey teams many of the players played at top hockey boarding schools, one of the best is Shattuck-St. Mary's in Minnesota, or Canadian, US & European Junior leagues. It is not a stretch to say Minnesota men's hockey is the 2nd most popular sports team in the state. The expectations are sky high and the pressure to bring in the cream of high school players is intense. A former coach had a policy of only bringing Minnesota kids into the program, but that has gone by the wayside after several years of not contending. There was a bit of an attitude going into the game with Union that we Bona fans have all felt that the little school could never complete with the Gophers. Not disappointed with the outcome on that basis. I think it is. The Vikings have to be number one then they have the Wild, Twins, and Timberwolves plus Gopher football and basketball. |
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Post by sbu79 on Apr 17, 2014 15:58:19 GMT -5
It is not a stretch to say Minnesota men's hockey is the 2nd most popular sports team in the state. The expectations are sky high and the pressure to bring in the cream of high school players is intense. A former coach had a policy of only bringing Minnesota kids into the program, but that has gone by the wayside after several years of not contending. There was a bit of an attitude going into the game with Union that we Bona fans have all felt that the little school could never complete with the Gophers. Not disappointed with the outcome on that basis. I think it is. The Vikings have to be number one then they have the Wild, Twins, and Timberwolves plus Gopher football and basketball. The Vikings are #1 through every kind of season. The Twins have faded after multiple seasons at the magical 100 loss level. Woofies barely move the meter. Wild definitely are in the vicinity of Gopher hockey. Making the playoffs helps them this year, but they were not getting much love earlier in the season or over the past few. Pitino has a buzz going around hoops again, no doubt, but they were pretty much dead with non-diehard fans under the last few years of Tubby. Serious Gopher football fans are not young anymore, although, much like with Schmidt at Bona, there is a belief that Country Jer is going to bring them back. Minnesota and hockey are just a thing. University of Minnesota hockey is a big thing. I did mispeak when I said "in the state", though. I have two kids that went to other Minnesota schools with D1 hockey, and I am a bigger fan of both those programs, but in the Twin Cities, Gopher hockey is clearly bested only by the Vikings year in and year out. They hold thier own against all the rest. |
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