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Post by jh on Aug 18, 2014 16:23:29 GMT -5
Here is my 1st semester calendar........1960 Quite a lot different from today's calendar. Note all the religious holidays, almost non-existent semester break and orientation prior to the start of school. Are those Holy Days and feast days on the calendar to signify no classes that day or to signify that they are Holy Days / feast days that are to be observed? Was Veterans's Day a day off from classes? I'm seriously wondering since we didn't have off for any of those days in the late 90's. All Saints and Immaculate Conception were been Holy Days of Obligation that were observed on campus with masses, but not days off from academic activities. What do you think it should be? Should the school close classes for any holy days during a semester?
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Post by sbu79 on Aug 18, 2014 16:44:46 GMT -5
No, I believe it should not.
Those who truely want to participate in events that commemorate the day will do so whether there are classes or not. What are the proportion of students that attend Sunday mass these days? I believe that would be a strong indicator of the outcome of giving days off for the Holy Days.
My personal belief is that giving the day off adds 0 (zero) to the meaning of the day and could actually be detrimental to commemorating the day in a reverential way.
Also, since the 70's, St. Bonaventure University has legally been a "private institution with a Catholic tradition" (a legal necessity). I assume it could choose to hold or not hold classes on any days it chooses, but there may be some complications to tying those decisions to a religious calendar.
By the way, I go to (Catholic) church every Sunday, so this is not an anti-religious thing. I just believe days off is BS.
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Post by fjs64 on Aug 18, 2014 22:00:39 GMT -5
I am having difficulty remembering if we had or did not have classes on the following days that were listed on the school calendar: Feast of St Francis, All Saints Day, Veterans Day, Feast of the Immaculate Conception. I believe they were observed and we did not have classes on those days. During 2nd semester for my first 2 years we had a line item called Annual Retreat which ran for 4 days.....I really don't remember anything about them (the student handbook says: the Annual Retreat is an integral and necessary part of the University schedule. Hence all exercises at the retreat are obligatory). Things were truly changing......we had "mass mornings" every week, with mass at 6:55.....each floor had designated days. Prior to the War (WWII) mandatory mass was every morning, but size of student body changed that....by the way the chapel was part of Devereux Hall.....it eventually became the theatre.
Someone had mentioned jacket and tie. In those days we had community style dining.....not cafeteria style as today. The evening meal was at 5:30, and you had to wear a suit jacket and tie. These jackets were referred to as "chow coats". Most of us wore the same jackets for every dinner, and of course they got pretty messed up, loaded with food.....in fact at the end of each school year, I would take my jacket home and put it in a boiling pot of water.....best soup you ever had (joke). The meal format was to stand by your seat....at 5:30 the friars who had the duty (sat in front on a stage) would say grace. We would then sit, and the waiters would bring out the food......those meals would sometimes last only 10-15 minutes as we gulped down the food....they would be multi-course meals....usually 3 courses (always having desert)....milk was the normal beverage. When dinner was finished....an after dinner prayer and back to the dorms......at 7:45 we had mandatory study, where we had to be in our rooms (usually sitting at your desk), this lasted until 10PM. At 10 you had free time until 11....when you had to be in your rooms....lights out was (I believe) 11:15. You could ask your prefect (a priest who lived on your floor) for "late lights" if you wanted to study after lights out. The prefect checked each room, every night. By the way freshman were allowed out on saturday night until 12....that was your only authorized night off campus.
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Post by az63 on Aug 18, 2014 23:09:18 GMT -5
fjs-after each of the 3 meals those of us who had to work for beer money would work on the "set up" crew to wash the tables down and put out place settings (14 to a half table??) for the next meal. We would get 50 cents per "credit"; a "credit" being 1/2 hour of set up time. If you knew the "crew captain" you could usually gets 2 credits for both lunch and dinner and normally 1 credit for breakfast since most guys (only guys at meals back then) skipped breakfast. So as you worked your way up the ladder each year, by senior year, if your class schedule allowed, you could get 3-4 credits/day for 5-6 days - maybe $8-10/week. Between that and selling BBall tickets in front of the Aud for a couple of classmates I had enough to pay my way to Buffalo a few times a month to watch great college hoops.
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Post by jim62 on Aug 19, 2014 8:58:00 GMT -5
And one of our strenuous activities those days was the one hour period from after study time (10:00) until lights out.
During that 1 hour, we had to cross the railroad tracks, get to the Burton, down a couple beers, and get back to the dorm before the prefect came around checking rooms and making sure everyone was present and accounted for.
That was pushing it. <G>
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Post by thesocalkid on Aug 19, 2014 9:34:47 GMT -5
I just came back from the campus and I love Bonas this time of the year!
Students starting to arrive with that " look " in there eyes, Mom crying as she is leaving her little girl, ( gave e me a lump in my throat too ) workers are busy getting the fields ready. The smell in the air... It is a very emotional time.
I am so blessed that I live here in Olean - until winter starts...
Got my season tickets for the 2014-2015 Basketball season and best of all I saw Ogo today!
Go Bonnies
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Post by sony on Aug 19, 2014 11:57:53 GMT -5
Man some of you guys are old!!!!! I love the nostalgia! I just found out last spring that there was a library on campus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by derhut on Aug 19, 2014 13:06:08 GMT -5
historically a great time of the year at SBU...I can recall seeing hoopers going at it in the RC as school was starting...still makes me wonder about timmy flanagan and brian west..two great guards who had checkered careers for the Brown Indians but would light it up in full court scrimmages..billy moore could rebound and run the floor with the best of them. I used to marvel at the # of kegs on the fire escapes at DEV Hall and the activity in the skellar...spring was a great time also as the campus woke up after being blanketed by snow...seems to me that I snuck in to the RC to watch the Chambers Bros perform and saw Hot Tuna on the front steps of Plassman Hall
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Post by sony on Aug 19, 2014 14:33:13 GMT -5
"THe Time Has Come Today"!!! Tim Flanagan was magic with the ball and a good kid. I called a fp doing ink he ended uew games he played in a Men's rec league in CHelsea a few years later. I think he's done pretty well as a CFO for a firm in NYC.
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Post by bva on Aug 19, 2014 21:24:58 GMT -5
A day off would be an excuse to spend the day at the bars, a la St. Patty's Day!!
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Post by az63 on Aug 19, 2014 23:11:30 GMT -5
"THe Time Has Come Today"!!! Tim Flanagan was magic with the ball and a good kid. I called a fp doing ink he ended uew games he played in a Men's rec league in CHelsea a few years later. I think he's done pretty well as a CFO for a firm in NYC. sony - Tim Flanagan, another player coached by the great Jack Curran. And yes, some of us are old, but it beats the alternative!!!!!
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Post by sony on Aug 20, 2014 8:26:18 GMT -5
Amen, my aging brother! Jack was the greatest, although I never liked working his games.
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Post by az63 on Aug 20, 2014 10:10:38 GMT -5
Amen, my aging brother! Jack was the greatest, although I never liked working his games. Like most "sainted" coaches he did have a prickly side.
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