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Post by jjjacks17 on Dec 19, 2014 10:27:38 GMT -5
I can't believe we are actually going to thier gym. I can't believe that this is the team that we replaced the Cornell series with. Some how we actually found a team even worse than Cornell. Everything about this is a joke. We better go in there and just smoke them. We have nothing to gain in this game but everything to lose. I'm usually not one to be critical of the schedule understanding how hard it is to schedule good games but Binghamton is not a team that we should ever have to face on the road. It must have been to the point where this was the only D1 opponent the staff to could even get? Have they ever been good?
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Post by Pinnum on Dec 19, 2014 10:44:22 GMT -5
I can't believe we are actually going to thier gym. I can't believe that this is the team that we replaced the Cornell series with. Some how we actually found a team even worse than Cornell. Everything about this is a joke. We better go in there and just smoke them. We have nothing to gain in this game but everything to lose. I'm usually not one to be critical of the schedule understanding how hard it is to schedule good games but Binghamton is not a team that we should ever have to face on the road. It must have been to the point where this was the only D1 opponent the staff to could even get? Have they ever been good? Actually, going to Binghamton and Delaware, this year, is a good thing. Because they are weaker teams, the loss of home court advantage is not a burden. It, further, helps prepare the Bonnies for road games. But more importantly, road wins are weighted heavier in the RPI. This means that a win over Binghamton will actually have a greater weight than the wins over Canisius and Buffalo combined. Assuming SBU wins the game, the weighted RPI record for SBU will be .767 while if the game was at the RC and they won it would be .743.
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Post by B02 on Dec 19, 2014 12:46:34 GMT -5
Also it is a good thing for the same reason we go to Rochester and Buffalo games there are alumns in the area and its a good way to reconnect with your alumni base in the area. There will be a great crowd there, it will be a home game for Bonas. Playing in Albany and Binghamton every other year makes sense, good exposure for the school's academic recruitment efforts.
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Post by njbonnie08 on Dec 19, 2014 13:08:22 GMT -5
Guys, to me part of developing as a team and program is understanding when you're a far and away better team. When you are playing a team who stinks, it's OK to say "they stink". I'm not coach Schmidt or Jay Adams. If I were them I'd be speaking a different tone about BU in the papers without a doubt. But when we keep talking like BU is a "decent" team we are insulting our own team. This isn't 2005...This is 2014 and we are a pretty decent team. They aren't decent, they're awful. If we lose to them it will have NOTHING to do with anything you, or I said on the bandwagon or my blog. If we lose it's because we played an awful game and got beat by a bad team...it happens from time to time...but. that doesn't make it wrong to call it like you see it. I'm not holding back on posting things/making comments about upcoming teams because I'm afraid of jinxing or motivating other teams....that's just crazy talk. www.thebonablog.com
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Post by old timer on Dec 19, 2014 13:18:45 GMT -5
I don't believe in jinxes either. I just wear brown and stay away from black cats on game day.
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Post by gdub2009 on Dec 19, 2014 13:40:57 GMT -5
I can't believe we are actually going to thier gym. I can't believe that this is the team that we replaced the Cornell series with. Some how we actually found a team even worse than Cornell. Everything about this is a joke. We better go in there and just smoke them. We have nothing to gain in this game but everything to lose. I'm usually not one to be critical of the schedule understanding how hard it is to schedule good games but Binghamton is not a team that we should ever have to face on the road. It must have been to the point where this was the only D1 opponent the staff to could even get? Have they ever been good? I would say Binghamton's claim to fame for their basketball team would have been in 2009 when they made the tourney as a 15 seed and played Duke and got their butts whooped. I know there was some type of scandal after that year and their team hasn't quite rebounded from it. This game was purely scheduled to appease the Binghamton alumni, which I have no problem with, as long as they win the game. Wisconsin does this type of thing every year to appease their alumni. They will go and play UW-Milwaukee and Green Bay at their places because they know there will be plenty of alumni at these games. They also play Marquette every year so that is at least one game in Milwaukee every year and every other year in Green Bay. I have no problem with the Bonnies getting a game in Buffalo, Rochester, Binghamton(every other year), and NYC every year.
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Post by class70 on Dec 19, 2014 13:55:21 GMT -5
Guys, to me part of developing as a team and program is understanding when you're a far and away better team. When you are playing a team who stinks, it's OK to say "they stink". I'm not coach Schmidt or Jay Adams. If I were them I'd be speaking a different tone about BU in the papers without a doubt. But when we keep talking like BU is a "decent" team we are insulting our own team. This isn't 2005...This is 2014 and we are a pretty decent team. They aren't decent, they're awful. If we lose to them it will have NOTHING to do with anything you, or I said on the bandwagon or my blog. If we lose it's because we played an awful game and got beat by a bad team...it happens from time to time...but. that doesn't make it wrong to call it like you see it. I'm not holding back on posting things/making comments about upcoming teams because I'm afraid of jinxing or motivating other teams....that's just crazy talk. www.thebonablog.com That's OK with me njbonnie08. I rather enjoyed your candid discussion. Some of us here are way too abstemious in our use of pejorative. We're just a bunch of crazy fans and it's fun to have some corner of your life where you can let go with a few statements that are a bit rough around the edges. And b-ball ain't exactly polo either.
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Post by Chuck on Dec 19, 2014 16:35:08 GMT -5
There is no other way to put this: Binghamton is awful. I mean, really, really awful. Here's to hoping this is the first of at least three straight wins for our boys and this game is more or less over with 20 minutes left to play. Safe travels to all those fans making the trip down there...I'm expecting it's going to be a pro-Bonas crowd with their students on break. Preview below with lots of harsh words on how bad they are and not a whole lot of scouting to be really honest. thebonablog.com/2014/12/18/behind-enemy-lines-binghamton/ www.thebonablog.com They lost to a D-II team. This is something that never even happened to Solomon. But then again we probably should be thankful Solomon's team never played a D-II team during the regular season. I remember an exhibition against Gannon that had he me worried. Somewhat worrisome is Binghamton's best game was their last. They lost by just 14 to Boston College and this game was at Boston College. BC has a 6-3 record with a 128 RPI. Still Bonnies should win this game by double digits. warrennolan.com/basketball/2015/schedule/Binghamton
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Post by njbonnie08 on Dec 19, 2014 16:39:08 GMT -5
Chuck, During my freshman year (2004-2005) when we went 2-26 there isn't a doubt in my mind we would have lost to several D2 teams. We were losing each game by around 20 points that season. www.thebonablog.com
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Post by Chuck on Dec 19, 2014 17:05:32 GMT -5
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Post by West End Stench on Dec 19, 2014 17:38:11 GMT -5
I won't argue that it wasn't the coaching, but the roster here is still incredibly bare, Chuck. You pointed out the four best players on the team...they are also probably the only 4 players that would MAKE this year's team. I would contend that PML wouldn't see much floor time in Schmidt's defensive scheme. Also, Mike Lee was a freshman on that team, and I'm certain we had cheerleaders that weighed more than he did (that's going to come off as derogatory, but that's not the intention). To add to that, the point guard on that team was Isiah Carson, backed up by preferred walk-on G-Lew (an eventual starter!). The rest of the lineup wouldn't get asked to the Reilly Center for a recruiting workout under the current staff, and that's not hyperbole. There's a lot to be said for talented depth. Which is what the Bonnies have had for the last 4 seasons or so. The team my freshman year, '04-'05, couldn't even fill out a starting lineup.
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Post by jjjacks17 on Dec 19, 2014 18:46:17 GMT -5
BU's only win was over a DIII school??? Why are they even playing DIII teams???
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Post by Chuck on Dec 20, 2014 9:12:13 GMT -5
I won't argue that it wasn't the coaching, but the roster here is still incredibly bare, Chuck. You pointed out the four best players on the team...they are also probably the only 4 players that would MAKE this year's team. Absolutely agree with you the roster was "incredibly bare" for A-10 standards and at most the 4 players (Ahmad Smith, Patrick Lottin, Wade Dunston and Michael Lee) are the only A-10 level players. Also need to remember Ahmad Smith was a 2nd team A-10 selection that year. The problem is with these players the Bonnies finished with a 327 RPI and there were only 330 D-I teams at the time. The teams Bonnies are ranked with do not have any A-10 caliber players, much less an A-10 star. statsheet.com/mcb/teams/st-bonaventure?season=2004-2005 kenpom.com/index.php?y=2005
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Post by ceharv on Dec 20, 2014 10:00:47 GMT -5
njbonnie08 - you are absolutely correct - it is your blog - you created it and to keep it going you need to keep it interesting. For one, I like it and read it in part b/c you tend to just honestly put your thoughts out there. Keep doing so please - the world needs LESS overly-cautious coach-speak, NOT MORE of that crap. And I'm with old coach, with the exception of black cats and sometimes where I sit to watch TV games, there's no such thing as a jinx.
And by the way, it's a good thing there's a game today b/c I don't know about anyone else, but I am having a serious case of Bonnie-hoop withdraw what with the season starting fast and furious, and so successfully, then this lull of so few games spread so far apart. I need a fix - just wish I could watch this one somewhere.
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Post by riverrat76 on Dec 20, 2014 10:20:16 GMT -5
Yo JJJacks....Come on man. When the Bonnies play Binghamton or Cornell, I get to see them with only a 1/2 hour drive. There are a lot of alumni and Bonnie fans in the area and there will be even more if we play locally. This is probably a big game for the Bearcats and we are giving the smaller school a chance in their house. Just like we want the Orange(are they a color or a fruit?)to do with us.I can't wait to see these guys play and I feel like I know them all very well through the powers of the Bandwagon and video stream.
I love watching Youssou play, I feel he is just lacking some confidence and can do so much more. Last year at times, it looked like Denzell was the best athlete on the floor. This team is deep and due to their attention to rebounding, defense and unselfishness they will be in every game all year. There is a lot of potential and you never know. It seems like the coach every year has the team peaking at the right time.
On another topic, the game against Pitt was the first game I was able to stream without all the stopping that mike gleason posts about. I thought it was my DSL that was causing it. Now I am not so sure but I am never able to watch a game smoothly that comes out of SBU. Being non technical guy it is probably on my end. Maybe it is too HD for my set up and I wonder if they could provide an option for lower defintion as You Tube does.
The Bandwagon needs a separate thread to discuss whether postings are in the right thread.
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