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Post by bonaballa1 on Dec 21, 2014 2:53:28 GMT -5
Checking out the box score, 1 thing stands out. All 5 starters played 30+ minutes. That speaks to the lack of confidence Coach Schmidt has in his bench players. It begs the question:
Who can emerge as reliable options going into conference play? Here's my rundown.
Jalen Adams is a prime candidate. Right now, he's firmly glued to the bench. You would think given his athleticism and all of the buzz, he could carve out a role. Now that Gathers is gone, he almost has to. Or else Posley is going to be burnt out.
Xavier Smith is another interesting one. I've like what I've seen from him in limited time. Raw offensively, but a factor and active on defense. To me, he provides more of a spark than Dees.
Alston. He looks like an ideal backup. Defensive minded and can penetrate.
Dees. Is what he is. A big body to dirty it up for 10 mins a night.
Gregg- I didn't see the game today, so it was weird to see him only log 8 mins. Come Jan/Feb, he needs to be in the 15-20 range. He's an energizer.
Taqqee- I think Schmidt likes that he doesn't screw up when he's out there. Who knows, maybe he's the dark horse in all of this.
Tyson- n/a
Bottom line- I think this team needs more reliable/decent contributors in the long run. The minutes that the starting 5 accumulates could become alarming. In a perfect world, the rotation would be 8-9 deep.
P.S. I think this post is "thebonablog" material haha
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Post by az63 on Dec 21, 2014 8:01:22 GMT -5
With the exception of Gregg, all non-starters have played less than 10 minutes/game.
Jalen Adams has played in 6 of 9 games. If he doesn't see time against the likes of Binghamton it sure seems like Schmidt doesn't trust him. Anybody know what's going on with him? And with Smith?
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Post by B02 on Dec 21, 2014 9:22:55 GMT -5
In college hoops you don't need to be 11-12 deep. Dees,Gregg,Alston, and taqee is all you need to rotate. If someone else emerges great. Gregg is the 3/4 sub, dees the 5 and idris is the 2. Also keep in mind cumberbatch can play the 2 to give posley a rest and bring Gregg in the game. Our starting 5 is solid and they deserve 30 plus minutes. If they get one tv time out period a game giving them about 34-35 minutes that will be fine.
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Post by Chuck on Dec 21, 2014 11:04:46 GMT -5
Even JP Butler mentioned the limited use of the bench in an article in the OTH. He has spoken a few times about Jalen's limited playing time. In today's article he stated Jordan Tyson did not dress for the UB game and did not even make the trip to Binghamton. When asked about Jordan's absence Schmidt replied "we just decided to keep him home for this one."
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Post by az63 on Dec 21, 2014 12:55:28 GMT -5
Even JP Butler mentioned the limited use of the bench in an article in the OTH. He has spoken a few times about Jalen's limited playing time. In today's article he stated Jordan Tyson did not dress for the UB game and did not even make the trip to Binghamton. When asked about Jordan's absence Schmidt replied "we just decided to keep him home for this one." Hmmm |
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Post by az63 on Dec 21, 2014 13:00:54 GMT -5
In college hoops you don't need to be 11-12 deep. Dees,Gregg,Alston, and taqee is all you need to rotate. If someone else emerges great. Gregg is the 3/4 sub, dees the 5 and idris is the 2. Also keep in mind cumberbatch can play the 2 to give posley a rest and bring Gregg in the game. Our starting 5 is solid and they deserve 30 plus minutes. If they get one tv time out period a game giving them about 34-35 minutes that will be fine. In December, January & early February maybe, but that many minutes in league play will take a toll. And it's not just minutes, but the physical nature & mental strain of league play that beats guys up. |
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Post by sbu79 on Dec 21, 2014 13:15:49 GMT -5
I thought, going in, yesterday's game would be an excellent chance to get some more of the guys on the floor. Schmidt said after the game that he had hoped to get Dees out there more, but the game was too "close." I might have considered playing more bench when the starters weren't getting it done just to see if those others might bring more energy. I would suspect their talent would still be up to par against Bingo.
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Post by Chuck on Dec 21, 2014 13:20:48 GMT -5
In college hoops you don't need to be 11-12 deep. Dees,Gregg,Alston, and taqee is all you need to rotate. If someone else emerges great. Gregg is the 3/4 sub, dees the 5 and idris is the 2. Also keep in mind cumberbatch can play the 2 to give posley a rest and bring Gregg in the game. Our starting 5 is solid and they deserve 30 plus minutes. If they get one tv time out period a game giving them about 34-35 minutes that will be fine. In December, January & early February maybe, but that many minutes in league play will take a toll. And it's not just minutes, but the physical nature & mental strain of league play that beats guys up. Above from az63 is especially true if we want to see the Bonnies playing more 1-3-1 defense. The 1-3-1 is the main reason why a close game turned into a blow out. |
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Post by Hermit on Dec 21, 2014 13:23:46 GMT -5
Some of you "old timers" may want to correct me or add to....but, as I recall , wasn't the '67-'68 Bonnie team of Lanier, Hayes,Butler,Kalbaugh, and Satalin known as the "Iron Man 5" ? They didn't do too bad that year either. Undefeated in the regular season?
Sure, it would be nice to have bench players that can contribute.....and we do!
It seems some Bonnie fans just want/ need something to worry about......we didn't win by enough, we will look back and regret, not enough shooters from 3 point, we don't schedule enough "big" teams.
I mean, even when we had Tom Stith and Freddie Crawford.....we couldn't beat Ohio State.
Yet that Ohio State team is considered to be one of the all time great college basketball teams.....and we only lost by 2.....
Let's accept what we have , which seems , lately, to always be more than many people in the A 10 expect.
Nothing wrong with that.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.......
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Post by njbonnie08 on Dec 21, 2014 13:27:41 GMT -5
Bonaballa, You may be onto something ha....I did write about a month back how I thought this team was actually not deep at all. I think we are starting to see that opinion become more of a reality. It is really strange to see Jalen Adams' lack of playing time but from what I've been told it's due to a low basketball IQ right now and a struggle to grasp concepts...which is what I figured. The Tyson not making trip thing though reeks of a problem to me...I won't speculate anything but that's really odd and really rare. Even scrubs make trips. I don't like the sounds of that. NOTE: SBU's bench plays just over 20% of time. That's 346th in the country, giving us, speaking in terms of minutes used, the 6th worst bench in all of college basketball. SLU actually have the most used bench, followed by Kentucky with their rotation of players. So, I think that stat may more or less put to bed the debate of is our bench deep or now which I posed a a month ago. We don't...right now anyway. www.thebonablog.com |
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Post by jh on Dec 21, 2014 13:36:43 GMT -5
Some of you "old timers" may want to correct me or add to....but, as I recall , wasn't the '67-'68 Bonnie team of Lanier, Hayes,Butler,Kalbaugh, and Satalin known as the "Iron Man 5" ? They didn't do too bad that year either. Undefeated in the regular season? Sure, it would be nice to have bench players that can contribute.....and we do! It seems some Bonnie fans just want/ need something to worry about......we didn't win by enough, we will look back and regret, not enough shooters from 3 point, we don't schedule enough "big" teams. I mean, even when we had Tom Stith and Freddie Crawford.....we couldn't beat Ohio State. Yet that Ohio State team is considered to be one of the all time great college basketball teams. Let's accept what we have , which seems , lately, to always be more than many people in the A 10 expect. Nothing wrong with that. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all....... I think the biggest concern is it seems our biggest 'weapon' is the use of the 1-3-1 zone which as Chuck indicated moved the game from a 4 pt lead towards a 16pt lead. Its likely a short bench limits our use of such a weapon. I was surprised to see Denzel Gregg who saw 21 minutes at Ohio & 19 minutes at Pitt be limited to only 8 minutes in an 18pt win that his parents organized a bus trip to. |
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Post by az63 on Dec 21, 2014 14:22:46 GMT -5
Some of you "old timers" may want to correct me or add to....but, as I recall , wasn't the '67-'68 Bonnie team of Lanier, Hayes,Butler,Kalbaugh, and Satalin known as the "Iron Man 5" ? They didn't do too bad that year either. Undefeated in the regular season? Sure, it would be nice to have bench players that can contribute.....and we do! It seems some Bonnie fans just want/ need something to worry about......we didn't win by enough, we will look back and regret, not enough shooters from 3 point, we don't schedule enough "big" teams. I mean, even when we had Tom Stith and Freddie Crawford.....we couldn't beat Ohio State. Yet that Ohio State team is considered to be one of the all time great college basketball teams.....and we only lost by 2..... Let's accept what we have , which seems , lately, to always be more than many people in the A 10 expect. Nothing wrong with that. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all....... Different time, different game, different athletes. Today's game is much more physical & faster paced. Year round strength training, nutrition, etc., have changed the game. Defending the 3 makes for a lot more activity defensively. Plus, the seasons were much shorter then. |
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Post by OceanStateBonnie on Dec 21, 2014 15:26:06 GMT -5
67-68 team was the Iron Man Five.
Excellent points AZ.
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Post by old timer on Dec 21, 2014 19:26:56 GMT -5
Xavier Smith has been been bothered with a sprained. I don't know if that contributed to his no show at Binghamton, but he was doubtful for Ohio and he did not play in that game.
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Post by az63 on Dec 21, 2014 19:37:42 GMT -5
old coach - sprained _______??? In my case it's usually a sprained brain, but what's Xavier's affliction?
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