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Post by fan4ever on Mar 26, 2015 17:24:20 GMT -5
Thanks to Sister Margaret for playing a key role in getting SBU past the scandal and up on its feet. Now is the time, though, for new leadership that will move SBU vigorously ahead. I'd love to see Sister Margaret announce her retirement sometime this year and a new Prez to be in place no later than July 1, 2016. Sister Margaret has done a good job leading SBU post-scandal but doesn't have the skill sets, contacts, etc., etc. to get us much beyond that IMHO.
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Post by marylandbonnie1 on Mar 27, 2015 8:31:55 GMT -5
When I was at SUNY Fredonia, we had a 3-2 engineering program with UB. With Corning and Dresser so close and invloved in the ST.Bona University already, wouldn't something along these lines make more sense to SBU. We should/could align with Alfred U.
Both schools could benefit immmediatly. SBU could essentially become a defacto Engineering school. This would definitly attract new students.
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Post by Pinnum on Mar 27, 2015 8:46:17 GMT -5
When I was at SUNY Fredonia, we had a 3-2 engineering program with UB. With Corning and Dresser so close and invloved in the ST.Bona University already, wouldn't something along these lines make more sense to SBU. We should/could align with Alfred U. Both schools could benefit immmediatly. SBU could essentially become a defacto Engineering school. This would definitly attract new students. Dresser was bought out by Siemens and didn't Dresser just have a mass layoff of 10 percent of their work force? I am a big fan of math and science programs and SBU did just get a grant to attract more STEM students but I don't think trying to fill local niches are the way to go. Find things that are going to be in high demand anywhere. Developing more in the way of economics, statistics, and math for analytics programs would be a good direction. It is a growing field that permeates through every industry. There are so many schools that offer 3+3 type programs and really all they do is funnel students to specialized schools that are known for producing quality STEM graduates that do well. I always get the feeling that the grads have a greater allegiance to the second school as their goal is to leave the school.
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Post by marylandbonnie1 on Mar 27, 2015 9:04:38 GMT -5
When I was at SUNY Fredonia, we had a 3-2 engineering program with UB. With Corning and Dresser so close and invloved in the ST.Bona University already, wouldn't something along these lines make more sense to SBU. We should/could align with Alfred U. Both schools could benefit immmediatly. SBU could essentially become a defacto Engineering school. This would definitly attract new students. Dresser was bought out by Siemens and didn't Dresser just have a mass layoff of 10 percent of their work force? I am a big fan of math and science programs and SBU did just get a grant to attract more STEM students but I don't think trying to fill local niches are the way to go. Find things that are going to be in high demand anywhere. Developing more in the way of economics, statistics, and math for analytics programs would be a good direction. It is a growing field that permeates through every industry. There are so many schools that offer 3+3 type programs and really all they do is funnel students to specialized schools that are known for producing quality STEM graduates that do well. I always get the feeling that the grads have a greater allegiance to the second school as their goal is to leave the school. Pinnim, that is just it. If done correctly, the students would never even leave he SBU campus, execpt for the few classes that would have to be taken at Alfred. Alfred, essentially uses the SBU campus as a satellite school. I envison 3 years of tuiton at SBU then 2 at Alfred but 5yrs of room, board and fees paid to Bona's. Everybody wins.. You get one degree from SBU and one degree from Alfred. the student, if savy enough, could even start on an MBA while finishing up their enginering studies. What a selling point.
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Post by Pinnum on Mar 27, 2015 10:03:56 GMT -5
Pinnim, that is just it. If done correctly, the students would never even leave he SBU campus, execpt for the few classes that would have to be taken at Alfred. Alfred, essentially uses the SBU campus as a satellite school. I envison 3 years of tuiton at SBU then 2 at Alfred but 5yrs of room, board and fees paid to Bona's. Everybody wins.. You get one degree from SBU and one degree from Alfred. the student, if savy enough, could even start on an MBA while finishing up their enginering studies. What a selling point. You want kids to commute to Alfred from Bonas? Even as someone who thinks the reputation SBU has as being a frozen tundra is a little overblown, I wouldn't want kids, especially if they were in an intensive program like engineering commuting like that in the winter. I am very familiar with these programs. Alfred is not a school you want to do a program like this with since outside of ceramics they don't really offer much and are not well respected. SBU already has the Med School agreement with George Washington so building a connection there wouldn't be hard. RPI, RIT, Clarkson, Lehigh, Columbia are all options. Allegany College has done a great jobs with placement into graduate programs without getting away from the core math and science majors. But the reality is that these programs are expensive and tailoring programs for a few students are not often wise. If a kid wants an engineering program they have a lot of options available at schools that are focused on it and don't see it as a little add on in a brochure to entice kids. You offer programs in your core competency where you will excel you don't just add a bunch of different things that each individually might entice a few kids. Bonas core competency is a liberal arts education that is focused on the development of the individual that will prepare them for life (and after).
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