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Post by B02 on Mar 24, 2015 17:03:18 GMT -5
Jh, never said I didn't want kaputo. I have seen him play the past 2 years. Calling him a 2 is a big stretch. He's not a pure shooter. He's a heck of a defender and pg with a decent shot. I would love him in brown and white when he's ready. Who I would love is who plays 2 on st mikes marcus Carr who can flat out shoot and already has high major offers as a 2018 signee
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Post by jh on Mar 24, 2015 17:08:04 GMT -5
Jh, never said I didn't want kaputo. I have seen him play the past 2 years. Calling him a 2 is a big stretch. He's not a pure shooter. He's a heck of a defender and pg with a decent shot. I would love him in brown and white when he's ready. Who I would love is who plays 2 on st mikes marcus Carr who can flat out shoot and already has high major offers as a 2018 signee Is Posley a pure 2 at 6'1? Talented guards can just flat out play - I thought you indicated you wanted a juco 2 rather than a Kaputo for 4 years
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Post by B02 on Mar 24, 2015 20:00:03 GMT -5
I was saying wait for kaputo in 2016 get a Juco now. Posley and kaputo are totally different players. Posley is a scorer/shooter which why I say he is more of a 2. I would say he is a quicker and more explosive version of jay Adams. He can shoot the 3 when he can but you don't want him taking 8 3's a game.
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Post by elitetaylor33 on Mar 24, 2015 23:24:54 GMT -5
I think we're going to see a vast difference in Adams 3 point percentage this season.. This past season, he shot 30%, and usually took them as a last resort, or when we we're behind, trying to catch up.. This yr, he'll have more confidence behind the shot, while also not looking to be our last option while the shot clock is running out. Im confident in thinking, while running this offense, his ppg will increase to 13 or 14, and hopefully with Posley slashing to the hoop more often (and now having a handful of games playing pg under his belt) he"ll dish it out to an open Adams more often!..
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Post by wgt on Mar 25, 2015 0:16:01 GMT -5
elitetaylor33.....I agree that JAY will shoot the TREY better next season. Not sure we will see a "vast difference" because his 3 ball was pretty good for a frosh. Actually he hit them at a .324 clip for the season.
However, consider that he played 5 games with the broken finger & shot a terrible 4-22. If you look at all his 17 games prior to injuring the finger he shot 30-83 for 36%. If he makes a "vast difference" in hitting treys he will be above 40%. Love to see that but feel 38% from beyond the arc is very realistic in his soph season.
JAY will be a threat from deep as well as taking it to the rim, absorbing body contact & finishing. He doesn't display explosive speed to the hole but has change of gear moves that provides him with separation needed.
He already proved he was a top playmaker in the conference while protecting the ball. Very excited about his next 3 years at Bona.
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Post by agoo on Mar 25, 2015 9:48:34 GMT -5
If Jay goes up to 38% from 3, he's sniffing the top 10 in the conference as a sophomore and would project to go over 40% as a junior and senior, which is firmly in the top 10. He's going to be the offensive leader for the squad next year as there's more trust, more strength, and he's caught up to the speed of the game. He would have been second in the conference in assists if he had finished out the year and his 4.5 apg average held (of note, he averaged 6 apg with the broken finger and was nearly 5:1 a/to, including just two TOs against VCU in a tight game as a freshman, which is insane).
I remain worried about the lack of depth at the 4 and 5 and what it will force Dion Wright to do, but knowing that we will not lose possession from the point guard is going to alleviate that concern a bit as I go through the numbers.
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Post by wgt on Mar 25, 2015 11:27:22 GMT -5
agoo101284......Agree JAY’s PG #s were INSANE for anyone but especially for a freshman!
If you check his stats in Conference play you will see he played 11 of the 18 conference games & had the MOST Assists Per Game AND the BEST Assist Turn Over Ratio of anyone.
Since he played 22 games & not the minimum 24 for the entire season his name does not appear on any of the A10 stats. Here are JAY’s Conference #s compared to the TOP PGs in the A10
Kalinoski (a Senior) was #1 in Assists per Game with 4.5 APG JAY had 5.73 APG
Mason (a Junior) was # 1 in his Assist/Turn over ratio with an incredible 3.1 A/TO Ratio But JAY’s was a jaw dropping 4.2 A/TO ratio.
JAY’s skills at playmaking and securing the ball was significantly better than the top PGs with far more experience. Add those attributes to hitting TREYS at a 36% clip (with a good finger) as a frosh & you have the complete package at a key position.
Sure hope that Kyle Alexander & other big recruits factor that into their final decision. JAY will deliver the ball!
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Post by kcSBU03 on Mar 25, 2015 11:55:04 GMT -5
I thought it was impossible to improve shooting over a college career?
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Post by fjs64 on Mar 25, 2015 21:36:27 GMT -5
I have looked at the names on the list multiple times, remembering some of the names that at one point were mentioned on this Board. The name that stands out to me is Jordan Gathers, knowing how much he meant to our school. Of course, tied to his legacy will be that of his Uncle. I watched the documentary about Hank and his Loyola Marymount team and have provided the link, it is something that you should view when you have the time, or as a basketball junkie, you should make the time. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFOS3aeREfY
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Post by elitetaylor33 on Mar 26, 2015 4:33:03 GMT -5
If Jay goes up to 38% from 3, he's sniffing the top 10 in the conference as a sophomore and would project to go over 40% as a junior and senior, which is firmly in the top 10. He's going to be the offensive leader for the squad next year as there's more trust, more strength, and he's caught up to the speed of the game. He would have been second in the conference in assists if he had finished out the year and his 4.5 apg average held (of note, he averaged 6 apg with the broken finger and was nearly 5:1 a/to, including just two TOs against VCU in a tight game as a freshman, which is insane). I remain worried about the lack of depth at the 4 and 5 and what it will force Dion Wright to do, but knowing that we will not lose possession from the point guard is going to alleviate that concern a bit as I go through the numbers. From what i saw it was 30.8%, but regardless, if you're correct on 32%, a 6% increase, imo, would be "vastly improved". It depends on how many more 3's he's taking this yr compared to last yr, and if he's hitting at that much of a higher clip, i'll take it..
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Post by agoo on Mar 26, 2015 8:28:23 GMT -5
From what i saw it was 30.8%, but regardless, if you're correct on 32%, a 6% increase, imo, would be "vastly improved". It depends on how many more 3's he's taking this yr compared to last yr, and if he's hitting at that much of a higher clip, i'll take it.. I didn't post the math, wgt did. I was about to post it when I noticed that it was already done, so I can second his calcuations. Adams shot 36% from the floor before the broken finger. His shooting percentage fell off a cliff after the injury. Going from 36% to 38% isn't that big of a jump, but it will be noticed as I think Adams will be our second leading scorer next season.
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Post by class70 on Mar 26, 2015 10:18:18 GMT -5
Strange as it may seem, I haven't done the math either, but as I recall Jay was shooting over 40% from beyond the arc in the early part of the season--maybe all the way through the OOC. His true shooting percentage was way up there on the national charts. I recall the play-by-play guy for the Ohio game saying "he needs to shoot more," and I was nodding my head in agreement. The increased attention of opponents, the quality of A10 defenders, the need to shoot more when other aspects of the Bona offense broke down, and--finally--the injured finger all played a negative role. All that tends to obscure just how good a shooter we've got. And how about the emergence of Dion's shooting? I remember an interviewer last year pointing out to Coach that "Dion even tried one from 3-point range." The wry response was "Yes, but you probably noticed he didn't take a second one." Sorry for the digression, but threads here often seem to follow stream of consciousness.
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Post by elitetaylor33 on Mar 26, 2015 14:56:57 GMT -5
From what i saw it was 30.8%, but regardless, if you're correct on 32%, a 6% increase, imo, would be "vastly improved". It depends on how many more 3's he's taking this yr compared to last yr, and if he's hitting at that much of a higher clip, i'll take it.. I didn't post the math, wgt did. I was about to post it when I noticed that it was already done, so I can second his calcuations. Adams shot 36% from the floor before the broken finger. His shooting percentage fell off a cliff after the injury. Going from 36% to 38% isn't that big of a jump, but it will be noticed as I think Adams will be our second leading scorer next season. Sorry, I responded before i headed to work, and it was early. Must of "quoted" the wrong person. My bad bud.. My opinion still stands, because that's exactly what it it is, an opinion (and we were talking about his 3 point shot climbing to 38% not his overall shooting percentage). But I did want to clear that up!
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Post by tastylicks on Mar 26, 2015 15:19:01 GMT -5
I have looked at the names on the list multiple times, remembering some of the names that at one point were mentioned on this Board. The name that stands out to me is Jordan Gathers, knowing how much he meant to our school. Of course, tied to his legacy will be that of his Uncle. I watched the documentary about Hank and his Loyola Marymount team and have provided the link, it is something that you should view when you have the time, or as a basketball junkie, you should make the time. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFOS3aeREfYWould be cool if Jordan ends up at Loyola Marymount
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Post by efsboca on Mar 26, 2015 17:10:59 GMT -5
I have looked at the names on the list multiple times, remembering some of the names that at one point were mentioned on this Board. The name that stands out to me is Jordan Gathers, knowing how much he meant to our school. Of course, tied to his legacy will be that of his Uncle. I watched the documentary about Hank and his Loyola Marymount team and have provided the link, it is something that you should view when you have the time, or as a basketball junkie, you should make the time. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFOS3aeREfYWould be cool if Jordan ends up at Loyola Marymount The one name that stuck out to me was Millinghaus, as in Derrick and Shadell. The family made such an insistence that it was not academics when he decided not to attend Bonas, so you have to say maybe that is true. But if true, then these guys just don't know what they are looking for as Derrick seems to already have been to several schools, and now his brother is transferring as well. Wearing out their welcome?!? We probably dodged a bullet here. Still disappointed with Jordan's leaving as I think he would have made a big difference this year, or next. I understand Alston's choice as he has one more year to play, and he didn't want to play 5-10 a game. It opens the door for at least one juco, but I also hope we pick-up a good 4 year combo guard.
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