Post by presstowin on Mar 16, 2007 14:11:52 GMT -3
As a player - Larry was credited with the patented St. Bonaventure press known as the "nervous defense," and the frequency of his steals earned him the nickname "the Sheriff." Beyond that, Weise evolved into a smart, knowledgeable player who often functioned almost as a second coach on the floor. In 1957, the Bonnies, sparked by leading scorer and All-Little Three selection Weise, reached the National Invitational Tournament. The following season, Larry co-captained the team to a 21-5 record. As Coach - When Weise was named varsity basketball coach at his alma mater in 1961, he became at age 24 the youngest Little-Three coach since Taps Gallagher in 1928. Larry had an auspicious start with a Blue Grass Tourney-winning squad in 1961, and his record over the next 12 seasons silenced critics who initially considered Weise too young for the post. Over that period, the Bonnies posted a record of 202-90, dominated the Little-Three with 22 straight wins at one point, and made four-post season NIT and NCAA tournament appearances, including the unforgettable 1970 run. Weise's Bonnies also won the 1967 Tampa Tourney, the 1969 Holiday Festival, and the 1970 Gator Bowl Tourney. His coaching prowess was recognized with the Schofield Sportsmanship Award in 1968, and with the Eastern College Athletic Conference Coach of the Year Award in 1968 and 1970.
Post by MIKE MACALUSO on Mar 16, 2007 15:21:57 GMT -3
kudos to him..interesting that larry's little 3 peers, mackinnon and layden advanced to nba coaching careers. when coach satalin took the reigns at sbu, weise would not relinquish the summer camp slate nor the ability of satts to have input into his schedule...essentially forcing satts into the waiting arms of duquesne...oh, and then there was weise's lawsuit vs. sbu..details, details
I recall Larry Weise taking a slow, overweight kid named Lanier and making him run with the X-Country team following his freshman year to get in shape. It worked. Even though he dominated a freshman schedule few, if any, predicated he would transform into one of the dominant big men in college basketball. It is also my recollection that in the 8 times the schools met NU was ahead each time with about 5 minutes to go…Murphy never beat Lanier (he did out-jump him once in the Aud, however) and SBU’s record against NU in that era was 8-0 against the Murphy-led NU teams..
Tough to forget his father dressing very flashy at the Aud and being a very colorful personality as well.
Post by alumnussbu on Mar 16, 2007 22:31:55 GMT -3
Larry Weise and Lanier's mother and father made Bob Lanier work his tail off and walk a very straight line. Bob's mom and dad were at quite a few games each season and as I recall his dad was Bob's manager during his first couple of yearsin the pros. Shows the positive influence that a good coach and committed, involved parents can have on a young athlete.
Last Edit: Mar 16, 2007 23:00:12 GMT -3 by alumnussbu
Forgive me for being younger than this era but I have a few questions: If he stole so much why was he "The Sheriff" or are you calling the Sheriff at that time a crook? That name makes no sense.
I nor anybody I've asked has ever heard of the patented Bonaventure press or the "nervous defense." Do you know of any teams that use that strategy today? Was it just the standard press that locals never saw before so they claimed as their own or did Weise put his own spin on things? Thanks.
I posted the first comment of this thread . The point of my post was to share some history of our program and introduce some pride since some one was talking about 1961 and our talented years. Apparently the negative comments that follow with most posts will never change on this board. Good luck new coach. You are in for the worst negative fan base in the intenet. Larry Weise as a coach took our team to the final 4. As a privateperson, I don't know what he was like, but to the ignorant posters out there, I don't think the best coaching fit for St. Bonaventure would ever make make Thomas Merton or others like him happy. What ever Larry did later on is his business. Mike, you always sounded like a knowledgeable basketball fan. I thought I knew you better than that. Satalin left because SBU after he won the NIT wouldn't give hinm a better contract. Club house so many names have been given to defenses and presses and players abilities to force turnovers, do you have any idea who Eddie Donovan was or his coaching abilities? Larry, thanks for getting us to the Final 4. For one small minute in time you helped get us almost to the top.
As I said, I'm not of the old timer era but I've learned who Eddie Donovan was. I just didn't know if Weiss did something revolutionary with the press that would have credited him with the "nervous defense." I was just looking to add to my bona knowledge but obviously you took it personal for some reason.
I am a low level coach who is always looking for tips, so I was intrigued when you mentioned the "nervous defense." If it was something new that I could incorporate with my teams I'd gladly study but in all of my basketball research (not to say I've read or heard it all), I've never heard of the patented Bonaventure press. Just thought maybe it was something I had overlooked. Based on your response I'd say it was rather a local term rather something that would appear in coaching text books. Either way it's not a problem I just wanted some direction if it was available is all. Thanks for your insight.
It is also my recollection that in the 8 times the schools met NU was ahead each time with about 5 minutes to go…
Well, I was at their last game against one another at the Aud in 1970. Bona won 104-68. I don't remember Niagara being up with about 5 minutes to go, but if they were, Bona sure must have gone on one heck of a run... ;D
Post by OceanStateBonnie on Mar 19, 2007 10:17:21 GMT -3
Lanier did plenty of running for conditioning. Larry had him run the stairs in the UC from the railing separating the reds from the bleachers to the top of the arena and back....again and again and.....
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Post by erniecrawford on Mar 19, 2007 12:51:18 GMT -3
Eagle,you are truly deluded.Larry Weise did not have Lanier running w/ the XC team.Billy Butler knew Lanier was his trip the NCAAs.Billy Butler had Lanier playing in the DC Playgrounds for half the summer in full sweats.Lanier dropped from 325 to 275lbs that summer before his sophomore year.The rest is history.Also let's not forget the job Kalbaugh did on Calvin Murphy everytime they played.Kalbaugh rose the occassion everytime.Calvin,though tremendously more talented,was frustrated beyond comprehension when guarded by Kalbaugh.Check the stats.Kalbaugh would hold him to 10-12 points from the field.Murphy would spend the second half driving to the hoop to draw fouls to pad his points total.Calvin would pick up a dozen points in free throws which was usually more than he scored from the field.
Between our freshman and sophomore years, Bob and I attended summer school . Bob decided that he needed to drop around 25 lbs. He ran laps around McGraw - Jennings wearing a heavy sweat suit . He was able to get to his target weight of 265 . I would love to agree that I "held " Calvin but we played a 1 -2-2 Zone defense in 5 of the 6 meetings ( freshman were not allowed to play on the varsity at that time) . Our goal was to deny Calvin the ball if he was in your area of the zone . Much easier to deny him the ball instead of trying to guard him once he had it . The last game that we played against Niagara was the 104 -68 game in the Aud . Larry wanted us ready to play Man defense in the NCAA Tournament so he had Hoffie guard him and had me Double -Team whenever Calvin received in a scoring position . Hope this clears things up somewhat.