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Post by cyril baptiste on Aug 18, 2009 14:24:13 GMT -5
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Post by facultybrat on Aug 19, 2009 6:54:55 GMT -5
Why doesn't SBU reach out to George Carter? With the exception of Lanier, Carter spent more time in the Pros than any other Brown Indian. Heck , he was an ABA All-Star. Had a very ,very nice 12-13 year career. Tough player. Check his stats. Total oversight as this athletic administration reaches out to the old guard.
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Post by sneakers on Aug 19, 2009 8:51:49 GMT -5
Reach out to George in what context? How do you envision that he would be helpful? Do you know that they haven't reached out?
Just curious.
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Post by res on Aug 19, 2009 9:27:17 GMT -5
With the exception of Lanier, Carter spent more time in the Pros than any other Brown Indian. Heck , he was an ABA All-Star. Had a very ,very nice 12-13 year career. Tough player. Check his stats. Quite so -- even traded even-up for Dr. J. Well, sort of even-up. I believe the Nets through in the draft rights to Kermit Washington and about $800,000 in cash which the Squires needed very badly... IIRC, Carter was Bona's all-time leading rebounder until Lanier surpassed him, though I'm not sure how far back rebounding stats were kept.
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Post by mangham on Aug 19, 2009 10:37:25 GMT -5
If memory serves me, I believe George was even drafted by the Buffalo Bills as a tight end? ?? ;D
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Post by cyril baptiste on Aug 19, 2009 10:57:21 GMT -5
Da BRAT is right on...
for his career as a Brown Indian, Carter was 19.4/12.5 [and drafted by the bills, mets, pistons and nets]. Big George has always been under loved along with Billy Butler [20.8/9.3 career#s], Glenn Price [20.7/12.1 career stats] and Carl Jackson [16.6/8.4]. These 4 bracketed the Lanier years...SBU had a great pipeline to Wash DC spearheaded by Ben Rusin...butts, price, hocker, sanders, et al...AD watson is doing a super job making up for time lost during the AD regimes of weise, diles and the imposters who occupied the chair after them.
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Post by dadster81 on Aug 19, 2009 11:00:02 GMT -5
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Post by Nordender on Aug 19, 2009 14:04:34 GMT -5
Cyril: Please don't forget the guy in DC along with his brother who did a great job for the Brown Indians when it came to finding talent down there. Mr. Ronnie Dunn and his brother Mr. Jack Dunn led the way in DC when it came to recruiting. Along with people like Mr. Ben Rusin, Bonas had people located throughout the East that loved the Brown Indians. Who knows the story of recruiting Carl Jackson out of Vicksburg, Mississippi? Bona was very fortunate to get a talent like Carl. Jackson has returned several times for reunions and had a good time. It's funny how some players never return. The only player not to show for the Final4 reunion last year was Pete Wisniowski. The karaoke after the dinner was a must see. Even Coach Larry Weise was made to sing. Dick Gilotti sang New York, New York while twirling the microphone!
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Post by sony on Aug 19, 2009 18:43:01 GMT -5
As I've opinioned earlier, Carter was easily a top five all time Bonnie player. He was drafted in all three pro leagues! May well have been one of the best - if not the best all around athlete at the school. Not that I want to get that question started.
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Post by Nordender on Aug 20, 2009 8:05:55 GMT -5
I totally agree sony! Wouldn't it have been great to have George Carter playing along side Lanier in those glory years. Carter was simply a great all-around player. Carter must have been the best athlete to wear the brown and white. It's just too bad he was after the great teams with the Stiths, Crawford, and Martin, and before those glory years with Lanier and company. I remember going to the opening game at the RC when I was very young. George Carter was the star of that team with Billy Butler, Paul Stappebbeck, John Hayes, Vinnie Martin, Jeff Hazard, and Franny Satalin. There were others but those seemed to have stayed in my mind over the years. I think it was the season of 1966-1967.
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Post by mangham on Aug 20, 2009 10:39:15 GMT -5
I loved John Hayes game. A true garbage man. Always got the loose ball or the tip in when we needed it.
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Post by facultybrat on Aug 20, 2009 12:02:17 GMT -5
sneakers, ridiculous response,truly. I know they haven't retired his number. I know that he deserves that honor. Carter was, after/and along with, Lanier, the Stiths, and Crawford, the best PR the basketball program has had by virtue of his college and 12-13 year pro career....and he was a local kid (Silver Creek,NY)
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Post by sneakers on Aug 20, 2009 13:35:47 GMT -5
What are you talking about? I merely asked you a few questions. Your post says nothing about retiring his number. Maybe you were thinking that, but you didn't type it. All your post says is that the school should "reach out" to him. Truly a ridiculously vague post.
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Post by wgt on Aug 20, 2009 20:49:07 GMT -5
Bill Kenville (Billy the Kid) played 6 years in the NBA. Of the 15 or so Bonnies to play in the NBA only two scored more points than Kenville, Lanier & George Carter.
Billy lead the Bonnies in scoring 2 consecutive years & played with the 1953, NIT team. Drafted by the Syracuse Nats in 53 & in his 6 years played on the same team with the likes of guys I remember as a kid (few posters would know except fjs64): Dolph Schayes from the Bronx, Tricky Dick McGuire, Harry Gatalin, Bailey Howell, George Yardley, Gene Shue – All HOFs except Shue who was a perennial all star back then.
Kenville went to Bona & was a walk. I met Bill for the first time a few years ago in the Burton after a game. I was amazed to learn that he graduated from La Salle Academy in Manhattan where I played ball. Far more amazing was that he never played ball for La Salle (all ship players at the time) & was a walk on at Bona in his junior year. He now lives in Bingo & I got together with him when we played Bingo last (the game where we played a miserable first half & great 2nd only to lose). His brother graduated Bona in 51, was a journalism major & worked many years with MSG. He was at the scorer’s table the night Willis limped out of the tunnel.
“Billy the Kid” was a great player, is a wonderful man & big Bona supporter.
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Post by fjs64 on Aug 20, 2009 21:20:50 GMT -5
Thanks WGT. I do remember those names.
Following the Knicks in the mid-50's was great. The likes of Kenny Sears, Carl Braun, Richie Guerin, Ray Felix, Harry Gallitin, Walter Dukes, and I wish I could remember the rest.
My first contact with a Bonnies player was Brendan McCann, who played for the Knicks in the late 50's.
The NBA was at 8 teams: NY Knicks, Boston Celtics, Rochester Royals, Syracuse Nationals, St Louis Hawks, Minneapolis Lakers, Fort Wayne Pistons, and one more (any one remember?)
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