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Post by Chuck on Sept 14, 2009 6:29:05 GMT -5
A player's ranking is a strong indicator of a player's potential. Marques simply out played his rankings. As for Marques being a legitimate top 100 recruit, take a look at Hoop Scoops ranking for class of 2000 (could take any class for that matter). There are 2 players from Pennsylvania listed among the top 100 (Eddie Griffin and Drew Schifano) and both made first team for Pennsylvania. On the same list Marques made 5th team. Top 100 are almost exclusively BCS players. By the way there is a reason why Hoop Scoop is known as Poop Scoop. Remember all of Solomon's top 100 recruiting classes. www.hoopscooponline.com/members/top100classof2000.html www.wpial.org/scoreboard/hoop/hoop00/bstars00.htm |
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Post by bonabum06 on Sept 14, 2009 6:48:51 GMT -5
as i posted on the BEVEL. . .this kid's sophomore year and andy as a senior. yikes.
20 wins would be a disappointment.
and yes. he is a "blue chip".
and lew leonard will be the leading scorer.
November can't come soon enough.
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Post by sbuSTUDent2005 on Sept 14, 2009 6:51:15 GMT -5
Anyone know how Jones' visit went?
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Post by jh on Sept 14, 2009 7:20:03 GMT -5
A player's ranking is a strong indicator of a player's potential. Marques simply out played his rankings. As for Marques being a legitimate top 100 recruit, take a look at Hoop Scoops ranking for class of 2000 (could take any class for that matter). There are 2 players from Pennsylvania listed among the top 100 (Eddie Griffin and Drew Schifano) and both made first team for Pennsylvania. On the same list Marques made 5th team. Top 100 are almost exclusively BCS players. By the way there is a reason why Hoop Scoop is known as Poop Scoop. Remember all of Solomon's top 100 recruiting classes. www.hoopscooponline.com/members/top100classof2000.html www.wpial.org/scoreboard/hoop/hoop00/bstars00.htmAlso I believe Eric Siegrest was a top 100 ranked player and really was not A10 level....these rankings are very inexact at best and quite often the higher rankings are awarded to the best leapers regardless of their basketball skills This is actually great news for midmajors because it allows top players to be poorly ranked (Mike Gansey) and fall into our lap |
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Post by sbu79 on Sept 14, 2009 9:17:15 GMT -5
Does it really matter if he's rated the nation's 27th best point guard? No |
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Post by portpasses on Sept 14, 2009 10:34:39 GMT -5
The same goes for Maurice Jones. Does it really matter if he's rated the nation's 27th best point guard? Not as long as he's the Number 1 PG in the A-10 in 2 years!! |
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Post by bartmitchell on Sept 22, 2009 9:22:49 GMT -5
Maurice Jones is a supremely talented and will be a heck of a college player. But chances are he will have decidedly different experiences at Bonas versus USC, and I hope the people close to him involved in his decision making process are being honest with him about that.
At Bonas, he may be a 4 year starter and undoubtedly by his soph year will average more than 35 minutes per game. Since 1995, Bonas has had 2 5"7' starting point guards who were certified stars with national top 10 rankings in statistical catagories like assists, steals, 3 pt shooting, etc. Shandue McNeill averaged @ 36 minutes per game. Marques Green averaged an incredible 39.4 in his Sr (jr ?) year. Let's include, Tim Winn, 5"9' (sometimes generously listed at 5'10') who also started, played iron-man minutes, ranked nationally in statistcal catagories, led his team to the NCAA's, etc. So 3 pg's, 5"9' or under in the past 15 years who were certified stars, rcvd tons of regional and some national press, etc
On the other hand, the TRUTH about USC and every other BCS basketball program is that they do NOT want their starting point guard to be 5"8'. I believe USC has had only Brandon Granville at 5"9' as a sub-6 foot starter in the last 15 years. BCS kids are just bigger, across the board, and the programs are biased against kids who don't fit their mold. If they do have a talented pt guard under 5"10' they are generally used as 4 - 8 minute per game change-of-speed type players. I believe all 3 Bonnie players I have listed went on to play pro ball. When you play 35+ minutes per night you get the experience and exposure necessary to play at the next level. That doesn't happen if you're playing 4-8 minutes per game. Because USC has been decimated (I don't think that's an unfair word, I believe they've lost 4 starters and 3-4 recruits who had signed for 2009-2010) by the sudden departure of coach Floyd and impending NCAA sanctions, Maurice might get lots of playing time next year. But based on the historical evidence, USC is certainly already looking for the point guard they REALLY want to start for them in 2010 and beyond.
There are other considerations which may cause Maurice to choose USC, such as school size, location, etc. and that's personal to him and legitimate. But I just hope he's considering the foregoing information which is more relevant to his next 4 years of basketball, and beyond.
And Maurice, don't believe we can't compete. Dec. 1999, St. Bonaventure 80 - USC 67.
Whatever the decision, best of luck to the young man.
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Post by GoPadres on Sept 22, 2009 9:33:56 GMT -5
On the other hand, the TRUTH about USC and every other BCS basketball program is that they do NOT want their starting point guard to be 5"8'. I believe USC has had only Brandon Granville at 5"9' as a sub-6 foot starter in the last 15 years. BCS kids are just bigger, across the board, and the programs are biased against kids who don't fit their mold. If they do have a talented pt guard under 5"10' they are used stictly as 4 - 8 minute per game change-of-speed type players. I believe all 3 Bonnie players I have listed went on to play pro ball. When you play 35+ minutes per night you get the experience and exposure necessary to play at the next level. That doesn't happen if you're playing 4-8 minutes per game. Because USC has been decimated (I don't think that's an unfair word, I believe they've lost 4 starters and 3-4 recruits who had signed for 2009-2010) by the sudden departure of coach Floyd and impending NCAA sanctions, Maurice might get lots of playing time next year. But based on the historical evidence, USC is certainly already looking for the point guard they REALLY want to start for them in 2010 and beyond. There are other considerations which may cause Maurice to choose USC, such as school size, location, etc. and that's personal to him and legitimate. But I just hope he's considering the foregoing information which is more relevant to his next 4 years of basketball, and beyond. And Maurice, don't believe we can't compete. Dec. 1999, St. Bonaventure 80 - USC 67. Whatever the decision, best of luck to the young man. Bart - I think Bonas would be a better fit for Jones, too, but the PAC 10 has a very rich history of "diminutive" point guards. Nate Robinson, Tyus Edney and Bevin Knight come to mind in recent years. If a guy can play, he generally finds the court no matter what his size. |
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Post by portpasses on Sept 22, 2009 9:50:59 GMT -5
Don't forget Isaiah Thomas currently at Washington. One of the best freshman in the country last year.
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Post by bartmitchell on Sept 22, 2009 10:11:52 GMT -5
You are right guys, there are exceptions to my general observations. But Bonas has an exceptional recent history with 'undersized' point guards. Is there another D1 school with 3 pg's under 5"10 in the last 15 years with the type of careers Green, McNeill and Winn had.
And from what I can find, O'Neill's defense emphasises the point guard as "the teams second best rebounder." That would seem to call for some height at the pg spot. Also, I'm not sure how much fun his college offense is. I'm not sure about his interim stint at Arizona, but at Tennessee, he was known, and loathed by fans for low-scoring games (and lots and lots of profanity). I believe he once had a game end in regulation tied in the 30's and scores in the 40's and 50's were common. But maybe he's changed since then ?
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Post by bjif on Sept 25, 2009 15:27:20 GMT -5
Just thought that there should be "truth " in recruiting.
USC's number one PG target is supposedly 6'-180lb Gary Franklin from Santa Anna, Ca.
USC's number two PG target is supposedly 5'10-175 Andre Stringer from Jackson, Miss.
Please be careful Maurice and don't let them blow too much smoke up your nose!!!!!Ask the coach what his intentions are with his top targets and where does that leave you?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2009 12:22:31 GMT -5
Jones commits to USC... www.insideprepsports.net/files/Go_West_Young_Man.htmBreaking News: Go West Young Man 9/27/09 Inside Prep Sports Detroit, MI.- Official visits often pay off and the trip for one Michigan point guard was beneficial for the Southern California Trojans. Saginaw Arthur Hills’ 2010 5’6” point guard Maurice Jones is often referred to as Michigan’s best pound for pound player, if not the country. While exchanging messages back and forth with ‘Mighty-Might’ during the USC-Washington State football game, Jones accepted Trojans head coach Kevin O’Neil offer to attend the Los Angeles-based University. Continuing, Jones is dynamic with the ball in his hands and has the ability to dish out double figure assists while scoring thirty points, as he did at Spiece’s Run ‘n’ Slam in early May against a high major Boo Williams squad. Jones also had offers from St. Bonaventure, Duquesne, Providence, and many other notable programs. The PAC-10 is used to Michigan players that are vertically challenged that have had success…Oregon’s 5’7” Tajuan Porter of Detroit Renaissance ‘06. By TJ Kelley |
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