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Post by OceanStateBonnie on Jul 6, 2015 6:09:24 GMT -5
1858
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Post by fjs64 on Jul 6, 2015 7:35:29 GMT -5
originally it was 1856, but corrected to 1858. my ring says 1856. i was born in 1942, but some mornings it seems like 1922, then others, 1962.
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Post by thesenator on Jul 6, 2015 8:07:21 GMT -5
Senator - I'm sure you are well intentioned - but PLEASE STOP with the casual ideas the school will be shutting down/closing Honestly - WTF you think that does to recruiting efforts? both scholarship and non-scholarship? The very things you cherish.. Please keep your misguided paranoia off a public board where it can easily be mis-interpeted by prospective families The school is going NOWHERE !! We have been here since 1856 and will be in 2056..... Shut the front door ! jh, i hope you're right and that i'm wrong...
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Post by fan4ever on Jul 6, 2015 9:03:38 GMT -5
SBU has typically averaged about 2,100 undergraduate students. So we are nearly 400 students below that. With student tuition being the revenue stream that keeps the whole shebang afloat it is right to be concerned. Let's not stick our heads in the sand on this one. The articulated programs are fine but quite honestly SBU needs to follow the example of St. John Fisher with its in-house pharmacy and nursing programs.....or Nazareth with its in-house physical therapy program. The reliance on lib arts targeted to a large chunk of the student body doesn't mirror the STEM career focused reality of present day prospective students and their tuition paying parents.
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Post by kcSBU03 on Jul 6, 2015 10:06:03 GMT -5
SBU has typically averaged about 2,100 undergraduate students. So we are nearly 400 students below that. With student tuition being the revenue stream that keeps the whole shebang afloat it is right to be concerned. Let's not stick our heads in the sand on this one. The articulated programs are fine but quite honestly SBU needs to follow the example of St. John Fisher with its in-house pharmacy and nursing programs.....or Nazareth with its in-house physical therapy program. The reliance on lib arts targeted to a large chunk of the student body doesn't mirror the STEM career focused reality of present day prospective students and their tuition paying parents. If I am not mistaken, Fisher got a lot of money from the Wegman family for their pharmacy program. I like that SBU is trying to do something, hopefully it works out.
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Post by fan4ever on Jul 6, 2015 14:14:05 GMT -5
Well......Danny Wegman is no dummy. I'm sure that the Fisher pharmacy program is something of a pipeline to fill retail pharmacist slots at the Wegmans stores. Win-win-win for Fisher- for its pharmacy students- and for Wegmans. On the other hand, it seems like an RN/BSN nursing program would be quite doable for SBU in partnership with OGH and JCC. And with all of the sports that SBU offers it also seems like a sports oriented physical therapy program would be a possibility.
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Post by firstdev on Jul 6, 2015 15:25:36 GMT -5
The new pharmacy program is just excellent, and I am sure will attract great student interest. An RN program in conjunction with JCC and OGH is another great option. I continue to like us to push the law school option, even though we have a great direct admissions program with Duquesne. And we have the direct med school program with GW, really an outstanding option. Keep them coming, they will all be helpful in attaching even more students to one of the most beautiful campuses in America. It is such a great location to be educated in life, its just hard to express........ By the way my class ring states 1856, not 1858.
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Post by class70 on Jul 6, 2015 16:17:48 GMT -5
Well......Danny Wegman is no dummy. I'm sure that the Fisher pharmacy program is something of a pipeline to fill retail pharmacist slots at the Wegmans stores. Win-win-win for Fisher- for its pharmacy students- and for Wegmans. On the other hand, it seems like an RN/BSN nursing program would be quite doable for SBU in partnership with OGH and JCC. And with all of the sports that SBU offers it also seems like a sports oriented physical therapy program would be a possibility. Unless Wegman's is successfully hiring pharmacists at some wage significantly below market and is able to continue doing so for a long, long time this statement makes no sense whatever. I recall my mother--who graduated from Nazareth in 1941--talking about Robert Wegman, the boyfriend (and possibly the later husband) of one of her classmates at Nazareth. A nice young man then and a very successful one later in life who gave generously to Aquinas, Niagara, and St. John Fisher. Why is it so difficult to believe that some people are generous and genuinely nice human beings?
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Post by bbb on Jul 7, 2015 4:34:54 GMT -5
I'm not saying that it is why he did it, but the market for pharmacists was insane. They could quit a job, travel the world, and have a job when they got back on the first day.
The main reason was that there was UB and Albany and nothing in between. Now there is Fisher, D'Youville, and maybe others in between that five hour gap. Things have changed drastically.
It certainly helped Wegman's in the supply part of the supply and demand in that job market.
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Post by fan4ever on Jul 7, 2015 7:57:57 GMT -5
I went to McQuaid with Danny. He was a decent person back then and remains the same today. But both he (and his dad when he was alive) are heavy-duty business people. They obviously saw a need in the upstate NY community... including in their own stores... and did something positive to address it. BTW...Danny has just been elected Chairman of the Board of Trustees of the University of Rochester.
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Post by bbb on Jul 20, 2015 19:13:37 GMT -5
From the email from Sr. Margaret today:
These strategies include:
* International recruitment, with a significant focus on Brazil * Addition of the Cybersecurity undergraduate program and bachelorâs degree completion programs in business and nursing (RN to BSN) * Investments in academic program marketing * Investments in marketing and recruitment activities in the Atlantic 10 conference geographic footprint * Addition of D-1 athletics teams and expansion of existing team rosters * Growth of club sports programs
My questions: - Brazil? - do we now have an RN degree? - is "RN to BN" a thing? What is it?
I like all these ideas, esp. the cybersecurity degree. What could be more needed these days!
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Post by 123Rob on Jul 20, 2015 20:48:57 GMT -5
Brazil has a strong Franciscan presence that might make a natural tie in for SBU No, nursing now. RN to BSN is a thing and I believe NYS will soon require it so there is a pool of RNs that would need further education.
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Post by MM77 on Jul 21, 2015 9:26:42 GMT -5
That strong Franciscan presence in Brazil is also in Germany, Italy. Maybe we can land some prospective nursing students who are outstanding soccer players, that is a quick way to turn the soccer program around. I would not mind that marketing job of being flown around Europe and Brazil to recruit for Bona's and soccer, in fact sign me up now.
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Post by thesenator on Jul 21, 2015 9:56:53 GMT -5
That strong Franciscan presence in Brazil is also in Germany, Italy. Maybe we can land some prospective nursing students who are outstanding soccer players, that is a quick way to turn the soccer program around. I would not mind that marketing job of being flown around Europe and Brazil to recruit for Bona's and soccer, in fact sign me up now. sign me up,too...for the italy trip...i wouldn't be much help recruiting soccer players but, with my italian heritage, i could certainly talk up bonas...
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Post by dadster81 on Jul 21, 2015 10:08:47 GMT -5
Brazil has a strong Franciscan presence that might make a natural tie in for SBU No, nursing now. RN to BSN is a thing and I believe NYS will soon require it so there is a pool of RNs that would need further education. 123Rob is correct. Right now to be an RN in NYS all you need is an Associates. NYS has been considering moving this requirement to a BS. By the way, the school with the highest nursing board pass rate in NYS? Monroe Community. Beats all the 4 year schools year in and out.
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