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Post by pete on Aug 12, 2015 17:23:51 GMT -5
I hear Geno Smith is at Shea Stadium for tonights game. Speaking of Shea, back in the day it was the only venue that sold more Shaefer Beer than the Rathskeller www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAQPKz7ki8EThe link is a classic throwback
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Post by fjs64 on Aug 12, 2015 21:23:02 GMT -5
I hear Geno Smith is at Shea Stadium for tonights game. Speaking of Shea, back in the day it was the only venue that sold more Shaefer Beer than the Rathskeller www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAQPKz7ki8EThe link is a classic throwback He would be all alone at Shea Thanks for the old commercial.
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Post by thebonafan08 on Aug 13, 2015 2:46:36 GMT -5
Super post that speaks to the heart of the SBU small, rural private college challenge. My own feelings are along similar lines and also involve wishing for substantially increased transparency by the SBU Administration and Board as well as much improved communication with stakeholders. I find it just incredible that SBU is home to a renowned J/MC school yet the Administration and Board fall flat when communicating with critical constituencies like the alumni. Also, what is the SBU Office of Marketing and Communication supposed to be about anyway? This is as puzzling to me as the SBU Director of Safety and Security apparently not being consulted with regard to the student seating safety matter. I mean.... if the Administration and Board are not going to fully utilize the in-house resources available them then what is the University paying these resources for? Two Questions: 1. What method would you suggest that this change be communicated in a way that would not result in an uproar? 2. How do you know that the Director of Safety and Security was not consulted? Thanks 1. Any method that at the very least accepts honest to god better proposals than the one put forth by Tim Kenney. Please I am honestly looking for negative feedback to my proposal. I have written to Tim only to get crickets. Chuck pollock has said its a good idea, Steve Mest has said its worth consideration and even Brenda McGlade wrote back granted she just told me to talk to Tim with his email attached but at least it's something. Great solutions put forward and we get nothing from our AD. 2. Likely because I am not even sure safety director was fully hired when this was announced. Besides that though, the athletic department admits nothing will stop a storming of the court, they admit nothing major has happened in the history of the students being on the court. They will concede a few students on the court seats will still satisfy a-10 pressure... So why not all of them? What they don't do is answer this... If we really want to get into safety... What happens in a court storming when uncle 70 year old donor and his grandson are sitting in front of foaming students about to storm a court? If we really want to get into safety I think we can all admit the seats effectively do nothing. So why not play the a-10 game and put students we can trust in the seats proposed? Sneakers, we are all bona fans but honestly looking for someone to explain to me why Tim continues to ignore similar if not better seating proposals that I have made. Please explain that. Please tell me what is wrong with using our one advantage and putting students first. We all know we are in a tough spot,why is it ok to accept forcing ourselves in a tougher spot?
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Post by Bona84 on Aug 13, 2015 12:22:19 GMT -5
In a show of solidarity with firstdev and thebonafan08, I'm going to move my chair back 18 inches next time I watch the Mets on TV and complain.
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Post by sneakers on Aug 13, 2015 17:19:45 GMT -5
Sneakers, we are all bona fans but honestly looking for someone to explain to me why Tim continues to ignore similar if not better seating proposals that I have made. Please explain that. Please tell me what is wrong with using our one advantage and putting students first. People often think that their ideas are not being heard or listened to, when in reality their ideas were carefully considered but not implemented as the people making the decision may not agree with those ideas being the best way forward. Whether your idea is a "better seating proposal" is an opinion with which not everyone will agree. The people who bought the 8 tickets that will be given to students for each game (as recently reported by zcbonnies) are basically implementing the ideas that you are supporting. However, you wanted to do this with 20 seats, not 8 so we could use a few more people to step up and do the same thing.
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Post by res on Aug 13, 2015 19:22:44 GMT -5
In a show of solidarity with firstdev and thebonafan08, I'm going to move my chair back 18 inches next time I watch the Mets on TV and complain. This is the first time in about a gazillion years you Mets fans have nothing to complain about. Although if the "braintrust" holds to those pitch counts, you soon will.
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Post by Bona84 on Aug 14, 2015 7:56:37 GMT -5
In a show of solidarity with firstdev and thebonafan08, I'm going to move my chair back 18 inches next time I watch the Mets on TV and complain. This is the first time in about a gazillion years you Mets fans have nothing to complain about. Although if the "braintrust" holds to those pitch counts, you soon will. I'll be in row 17 tonight and tomorrow night, res. Nobody checked with me before putting 16 rows of seats in front of me!
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Post by thebonafan08 on Aug 14, 2015 8:27:13 GMT -5
18" today. Three feet more to provide safety aisle between seats and students after first exhibition.. More yellow shirts after first big game to tone down the crowd.
The only thing that kept students going to games during Solomon years was being on the court for a D1 game. It was the lifeline keeping something of the student section alive for when we were good again. 2 or 3 losing seasons with Tim's strategy and we will be wishing to look like UB student section.
Slippery slope all the way to having energy just like Mullins Center but with an old gym and no money. But for Tim he will be able to point to the few dollars he raised/redistributed from blue seats and satisfy the few guys here who are complacent with strategies that are at best pedestrian and at worst damaging to our school.
We talk about how dire it is at Bonas, we need better than to strategize/strive to be what every other small school fails at. Wash, rinse, repeat , Real great strategy.
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Post by kcSBU03 on Aug 14, 2015 10:23:35 GMT -5
Overreact much?
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Post by res on Aug 14, 2015 11:29:45 GMT -5
[I'll be in row 17 tonight and tomorrow night, res. In the big, cushioned, masters of the universe seats, or in a regular chairback farther down the line that the rest of us poor peons resign ourselves to?
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Post by fan4ever on Aug 14, 2015 11:43:44 GMT -5
I get the definite impression that management and communication at SBU is "silo" driven. By that I mean the Administration has encapsulated each of the main constituent groups in the University community into its own individual silo with little communication, interaction and transparency between and among the silos. Damn, damn sad particularly when the School of Business teaches just the opposite in its Management and Administration courses.
'Course it is always easier to run a puppet show when the puppet master is pulling all the strings.
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Post by sbu79 on Aug 14, 2015 11:56:50 GMT -5
I get the definite impression that management and communication at SBU is "silo" driven. By that I mean the Administration has encapsulated each of the main constituent groups in the University community into its own individual silo with little communication, interaction and transparency between and among the silos. d**n, d**n sad particularly when the School of Business teaches just the opposite in its Management and Administration courses. 'Course it is always easier to run a puppet show when the puppet master is pulling all the strings. I think in forts (e.g. Duquesne), they are know as "bastions."
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Post by Bona84 on Aug 14, 2015 12:26:11 GMT -5
[I'll be in row 17 tonight and tomorrow night, res. In the big, cushioned, masters of the universe seats, or in a regular chairback farther down the line that the rest of us poor peons resign ourselves to? Regular chairbacks, res. I like to mingle with the real fans. And, to be a Mets fan, one has to be a real fan.
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Post by fan4ever on Aug 14, 2015 16:50:18 GMT -5
I get the definite impression that management and communication at SBU is "silo" driven. By that I mean the Administration has encapsulated each of the main constituent groups in the University community into its own individual silo with little communication, interaction and transparency between and among the silos. d**n, d**n sad particularly when the School of Business teaches just the opposite in its Management and Administration courses. 'Course it is always easier to run a puppet show when the puppet master is pulling all the strings. I think in forts (e.g. Duquesne), they are know as "bastions." "Bunker" might also be an apt word to describe her administration. Quite honestly, with SBU edging closer to being on the ropes isn't it time for fresh leadership? Sister did a good job picking up the pieces and righting the ship post-Wickenheiser... but now said ship is wallowing badly and needs a new leadership at the helm. The time is ripe to begin the process for making a leadership change. Waiting until the University is almost bankrupt and then, out of desperation, selecting someone like Wickenheiser is clearly a lesson the Board doesn't need to learn again.
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Post by deaconman on Aug 14, 2015 22:43:10 GMT -5
Amen!
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