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Post by bonabum06 on May 24, 2006 1:08:03 GMT -5
I'm not stating anything new. I am just reiterating. As an 06 graduate the SBU baseball team has exemplified what St. Bonaventure is all about. A winner. Mr Sudbrook is a coach who obvious loves what he does. . . and we love watching what he does. Even when facing adversity . . .(top pitchers going down). . .they rebound. But Bonaventure keeps the game in perspective. It's not the world series. It's a bunch of college kids looking for stardom and exposure but most of all looking to have fun. Far too often college sports resembles a minor league system. Bonas baseball has gotten past that. Bona home games consist of a bunch of college kids enjoying themselves watching good college baseball (with a few beverages . . .no harm no foul of course). I hear stories of away games where twenty to thirty people show up to watch a game and I become confused. Then I remember. . .other schools are not St. Bonaventure. Let's go bonas and i'll see some of you this week in the south bronx!!!
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Post by ripreilly755 on May 24, 2006 5:07:36 GMT -5
Wholeheartedly agree bonabum ! Great post ! And Bona baseball players, even though many of them have to pay their full way through college because of the minimum number of scholarships available to baseball, are some of the biggest contributors BACK to the program after graduation.
Just a couple of examples are the recent $900,000 donation for a new field from 1980 alum Tom Mara; and Mark Evers and several other grads footing the bill for the baseball media guide each year. There are many other examples of monetary donations as well, the list is long and generous.
Unlike basketball, where EVERY player is given free EVERYTHING, and nary a one can find it in his heart to repay the university in even the smallest way with a donation back to the basketball program. We have many recent ex-Bonnies who made or are making big bucks playing professionally in the NBA and/or Europe and not a dime has beeen forthcoming from any of these thankless bums.
They need $300,000 for a new playing surface in the Reilly Center; if each player from the last 10 years that collected a check in pro basketball because of the exposure they received from playing at St. Bonaventure donated just a small part of that back to the program, they could pay for the court immediately.
But no, even with salaries ranging from $60,000 (Dumbliaskas) to $950,000 (Bremer), and in the case of other European players, free housing and a free car, a check to the BAF from any of these players would kill them.
I realize these players have other expenses, but so do all the generous folks that DO donate to the BAF yearly, and most of them don't even approach the salaries that these former Bonnies are pulling down in pro basketball.
In each basketball game program there is a list of BAF donors at the $100 level and up, there are some 225 names on that list; only TWO of them are former basketball players (who each gave $100).
That is pathetic.
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Post by ripreilly755 on May 24, 2006 5:14:00 GMT -5
Ps; in this same program, I see the name Mr. Mark Evers, a 2001 grad, played shortstop in baseball, at the $1,000 giving level.
Thank you Mark !
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Post by jh on May 24, 2006 6:10:46 GMT -5
Gee Olean Huskies how many different ways can you try to take cheap shots at the hoops program  Now its a comparison of giving vs the baseball teams? Please list for us the 'many' basketball players who are making the 'big bucks' in the NBA and are in a great position to give |
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Post by ladderbuddy on May 24, 2006 6:25:13 GMT -5
Some people donate to the BAF anonymously. Not everyone needs to see their name in lights.
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Post by DemBonnies on May 24, 2006 9:04:50 GMT -5
I see talk about replacing the floor in the RC.
I know appearance-wise it looks good and three/four years ago I did a shoot around with my daughter and it felt nice.
I believe it was Chappy who pushed for and received funding to replace the old tartan surface, so I'm guessing we have 15/16 years on this floor.
Is it really played out or just time to change our luck and get some new hardwood?
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Post by ripreilly755 on May 25, 2006 5:20:56 GMT -5
OK ladderbuddy, you're on the BAF committee, name me ANYONE (former basketball player) that has donated recently to the BAF anonomously ?
Wait, you don't even have to name them, just give me a number, how many and how much ?
How many recent grads that are making big bucks in Europe are giving back to the program ?
Also, what about former Bonnies that have gone on to hugely successful business careers - there are many of them - do they also donate and do it anonomously ?
As I look at the list, the majority of names are local businessmen and other area residents. I see a few major donors from NYC, etc; but it appears most of the names are Olean-Allegany residents (townies).
Bob Lanier won't even set foot on campus unless he is getting an appearance fee, or selling books. He could write a check for the whole court right now - we could even name it after him - Bob Lanier Court at the Reilly Center.
But don't hold your breath waiting for him to do that, because "it ain't gonna happen" !
Recent basketball grads couldn't leave town fast enough once their playing days were over. "4 years living in the middle of nowhere with a bunch of fat toothless rednecks is long enough," one player reportedly said as he left. "But thanks for the free ride ! If I never see this campus again it will be too soon."
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Post by geo on May 25, 2006 6:31:42 GMT -5
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Post by Chaz on May 25, 2006 7:24:09 GMT -5
Dem - did she "back you in" and clean you clock?
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Post by DemBonnies on May 25, 2006 7:47:09 GMT -5
Recent basketball grads couldn't leave town fast enough once their playing days were over. "4 years living in the middle of nowhere with a bunch of fat toothless rednecks is long enough," one player reportedly said as he left. "But thanks for the free ride ! If I never see this campus again it will be too soon." Egads...another unattributed quote...probably occurred during the same conversation as the assistant coach that said Sol couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag. Rip Reilly Rides Again!!! |
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Post by DemBonnies on May 25, 2006 7:49:53 GMT -5
Dem - did she "back you in" and clean you clock? What am I missing here...I don't follow??/ |
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Post by bonnieball on May 25, 2006 9:08:26 GMT -5
Recent basketball grads couldn't leave town fast enough once their playing days were over. "4 years living in the middle of nowhere with a bunch of fat toothless rednecks is long enough," one player reportedly said as he left. "But thanks for the free ride ! If I never see this campus again it will be too soon." Forgive me for saying this, but that is in my opinion a lie. |
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Post by sireltonruddock on May 25, 2006 10:35:53 GMT -5
Actually, coming from someone who has been on campus for the past four years, I can tell you that most of you are WAY, WAY off when it comes to this baseball team. Much like others on this board have said, I don't want to get into a pissing match with anyone on this subject, but Sudbrook's boys are without question the most obnoxious athletes on campus. I'd be willing to bet that 90% of the campus agrees with that.
The Basketball team, however, really minds their own business. Sure, anytime that anything the least bit out of the ordinary occurs, the local Homer Simpson rings his town bell and screams the news on this board that the Flying Peach or Ahmad had a few drinks or got into a little trouble downtown. Again, for the most part, these guys really don't bother anybody (Obviously, some resent the Flying Peach's ability to land the ladies).
These baseball players, though, are consistently in altercations on the weekends. Let's cut the crap with this "All-American Boy" image that these guys have. I hope they win the A-10's, but crimaney, it couldn't happen to a bunch of more Fonzy-like tough guys.
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Post by sneakers on May 25, 2006 12:37:54 GMT -5
Oleanhuskies
I hate to tell you this, but most of the players playing in Europe are not making the big bucks. There are no Bona alums that I am aware of in the NBA. I'm sure some are making a decent wage in Europe, but they have expenses as well and how many years do they really have to make money playing basketball? (hint: the answer is "not many"). If these guys are smart they are salting some of their earnings away for a time when they cannot play ball for money and need to transition their careers.
Historically, not many grads (athletes or non-athletes) donate much money to their colleges in the first 10 or so years after graduation. They need to first figure out their career and build a stable financial situation. Lots are saving for the purchase of their first house. Later on some of them encounter financial success and increase their giving. It is the graduates from the 60's, 70's, 80's and early '90's that should be hitting the hip more and donating to the school, not the recent grads.
Also, as far as the local community doing most of the donating to BAF, that might be related to their being able to get something for their money as they are close enough to go to the RC, McGraw-Jennings, etc. and see some games. It also may say something about the importance of Bona athletics vs. Bona scholastics to these donors. Many of the alums who live far away are contributing to the school itself rather than the athletic program.
That said, I think most of us could be more generous and I, for one, will be acting on this.
On more thing, don't you think if someone were to request anonymity in their donations that Ladderbuddy should respect that? It is none of your business who gives anonymously or how much they give. As for making up that quote from the alleged former basketball player, give it a break. Nobody is falling for that.
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Post by facultybrat on May 25, 2006 13:56:36 GMT -5
Rather than point the finger at individuals who fail to donate to the Annual Fund,Capital Campaigns and even the BAF,point a finger at the school.I donated $10,000 to the lockerrrom renovation mostly because Derek Morel actively solicited me.He was good at it as was Fred Handler .I have not heard a word from SBU/SBU Athletics since Derek left.Who took over Derek's duties? and what's he doing to maintain a semblance of continuity with the turnover in the ADs office from then 'til now? Wouldn't you think someone would say "hey here's a guy that gave $10k,let's drop him a note?" I really think the university is very sloppy in the fund raising arena,at all levels.
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Now its a comparison of giving vs the baseball teams?
