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Post by fjs64 on Jun 28, 2017 12:12:58 GMT -5
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Post by 123Rob on Jun 28, 2017 12:13:04 GMT -5
wgt- my post was solely about Bona's being a fine spot for an undergrad looking at a medical career. In earlier posts it sounded as though it is not. I meant no inference into why Coburn or any other student athlete transfers. Those are tough majors for anyone much less a student athlete who already have a huge time commitment to their sport. That said, Bonaventure is a great spot to launch a medical career. Word needs to get out there that it is.
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Post by firstdev on Jun 28, 2017 13:55:54 GMT -5
It is very difficult for D1 athletes who are science majors to balance academics with athletics. Science labs are often held in the late afternoons often interfering with practice sessions. At some point something has to give - your career in science or medicine or athletic playing time. My oldest son was an A10 athlete who was also a science major, eventually the athletics had to yield for the sake of his career. So be it.
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Post by sony on Jun 28, 2017 14:23:29 GMT -5
Contrary to another opinion previously expressed, this will not help us in the PSAL! We have enough challenges in this regards but, even though it is a very "large" league, it is a very small "community".
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Post by wgt on Jun 28, 2017 18:20:50 GMT -5
123rob....Your post was not solely about Bona "...being a fine spot for an undergrad looking at a medical career." I believe that all familiar with the Bona programs would agree with you as do I.
You did asy that fjs64's "theory", why Tareq may be transferring was, "...full of holes." Please point out the "holes."
You also indicated that Woods left to pursue a major that Bona did not offer. Woods is at Delaware as a Visual Arts major which Bona does offer.
Student athletes have been transferring at an increasing rate every year.
Tareq is one smart terrific kid that his parents are so proud of. He is a unique NYC player in so many ways & Amadi will really miss him along with so many Bona friends. Hate to see any Bonnie transfer and will really miss this kid. He will be successful where ever he goes.
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Post by 123Rob on Jun 28, 2017 18:50:27 GMT -5
"She...wanted to continue in the medical field. Hard to get to at Bonaventure" That is untrue. We have articulation programs for med schools, dental schools, etc etc.
"Coburn's goal...to be a Physician's Assistant. Something he couldn't directly get at Bona's." We may well have a PA school in three years when he graduates. As it is now, PA schools are tough to get into but our new Health Sciences major would be an excellent springboard into a PA graduate program. I personally know someone recently graduated with a good GPA from a excellent academic school (not Bona's) and summer experience working in hospitals that was completely shut out of PA schools. Our undergrad program is meant to be one feeder to our upcoming graduate programs.
Those are the reasons that I said his theory is full of holes.
Again, my point has nothing to do with the players leaving. I am sorry to see each go and wish them the best. My concern is that we all put out the word that Bonaventure has an excellent basis for graduate medical programs now. We ourselves will have graduate programs in short order. The University is putting a huge effort toward the Allied Health programs to boost enrollments and revenues. Blindly buying into and publically stating things like medical field..hard to get to at Bonaventure or couldn't directly get at Bona's hurt that effort and put out an inaccurate perception of SBU. I know it isn't what fjs meant to do and I was simply trying to put the positive message re our programs out there.
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Post by towniegrad on Jun 29, 2017 8:59:13 GMT -5
..?? Where is coburn transferring I think his high school teammate , Aaron Walker is at manhattan,and got quite a bit of pt last year as a freshman. Sbu may have a allied health program up,but it is behind competitors,and has no reputation in that area.
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Post by wgt on Jun 29, 2017 9:39:45 GMT -5
I would love to see him at Manhattan college joining his Cardozo PG Aaron Walker who had a good frosh year (9ppg, 1.7 assists). Saw him against Canisius where he couldn't be stopped going to the iron. Made one mistake & was sat the rest of the game with the Jasper's losing after holding a big 1st half lead. Final 4 games he averaged 16 pts. Rich Williams is a Jasper in his senior year who we offered out of Transit Tech in Bklyn (15ppg as a junior).
MC has an Allied Health program which is a pre PA program. That said, Tareq's high school interest in being a PA, like his mom, may have changed.
Bona grad Kevin Ross is the Assistant AD for the Jaspers & is well aware of Tareq. I believe they have one ship available.
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Post by Sipowicz on Jun 29, 2017 10:31:55 GMT -5
While I respect TAREQ's privacy and appreciate he has to do what is best for him, I, like some others are curious at the timing of this transfer. Many just credit it to his lack of playing time last year but if this is true, why did he not transfer at the end of last basketball season. By transferring now, he has limited the number of schools that still have scholarships available. TAREQ looked really good in the Spring scrimmages I witnessed, and posters claim he has been one of the hardest workers in the weight room. My concern now is there are 2 open scholarships, a transfer sitting out, and STOCKARD's injury being fully healed. I know some posters will come back with:"No big deal, SCHMIDT uses a small bench anyway." But, what about the inconsistent officiating we have seen in the A10? Also, there are always the occasional foulfests. The early reports of AYENI, IKPEZE, and NGALAKULONDI looking good in scrimmages, but remember, AYENI and IKPEZE were foul prone last year, have they really turned the corner on that? NGALAKULONDI is a freshman and will have to get used to the pace of an actual D1 game. NDENE is still unproven, and has GRIFFIN peaked? Can he still improve enough offensively to become an off the bench factor? I would have liked to see SAMSON GEORGE become a BONNIE, but did we really have a chance with him? Was he even eligible immediately since he was enrolled at IONA in the Spring semester? I see SAMSON's former First Love Christian Academy teammate and former Park School(Buffalo), and I believe current Buffalo resident, CHRIS EFRETUEI (7-1 250 lbs) may have reclassified to 2017. BONA offered CHRIS last year in mid July. So CHRIS is familiar with BONAS and their staff. CHRIS recently took an unofficial to Georgetown, and the PITT board says they have another ship left for next year. Is Dix Hills' OSBEL CARABALLO still available? Didn't the staff offer OSBEL last winter?
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Post by faffy444 on Jun 29, 2017 10:42:48 GMT -5
i like what you have stated sipowicz. i am very concerned about the way things are shaping up for 17-18. very short bench and concerns about the front court. too many question marks right now. im hoping the staff will bring in 1 more player before school begins.
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Post by derhut on Jun 29, 2017 10:43:24 GMT -5
we'll never know why coburn transferred...academics aside - if he ends up a jasper - that tells you something - not good or bad...but smart kids like tareq, who have strong parental guidance typically end up playing at the proper level of school. in the end, get the degree and play as opposed to sitting for at least two years. I recall, he was a bit of a late bloomer who had big schools sniffing..but few big school offers...schmidt is good at finding these types of kids..some work out..others dont..as someone previously mentioned...there are more transfers than every in D1 hoops...its part of the process these days..sbu has benefitted supremely grabbing transfers...
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Post by Sipowicz on Jun 29, 2017 11:04:21 GMT -5
A lot of people believe that the A10 is a guard oriented, guard driven league, and the BONNIES have 2 of the best however, after watching the NCAA tourney last year, what impressed me the most, were the schools that got deeper into the tourney were always teams with really good 3s & 4s. Yes, SCHMIDT is extraordinary at finding and developing the "under the radar" kids and this is truly needed at a ST. BONAVENTURE, but to get to the next plateau, the staff MUST land or beat out a bigger school for the 4 star and higher kids, like they just did with POYSER. They must do this not only to improve the talent further here but to show kids of this caliber WANT to come to ST. BONAVENTURE.
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Post by Bonafan71 on Jun 29, 2017 11:36:05 GMT -5
A lot of people believe that the A10 is a guard oriented, guard driven league, and the BONNIES have 2 of the best however, after watching the NCAA tourney last year, what impressed me the most, were the schools that got deeper into the tourney were always teams with really good 3s & 4s. Yes, SCHMIDT is extraordinary at finding and developing the "under the radar" kids and this is truly needed at a ST. BONAVENTURE, but to get to the next plateau, the staff MUST land or beat out a bigger school for the 4 star and higher kids, like they just did with POYSER. They must do this not only to improve the talent further here but to show kids of this caliber WANT to come to ST. BONAVENTURE. I noticed the same thing watching the tournament and it's a luxury Rhode Island currently has -- bigs who can shoot and move the ball like guards. They're rare but all the good schools have them.
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Post by derhut on Jun 29, 2017 13:56:12 GMT -5
sip and dude..agree 100% 6'6" to 6'8" tight end types who can run and shoot it
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Post by Jive36 on Jun 29, 2017 14:52:16 GMT -5
There is an awful lot of concern about depth in regards to a team that plays only 7 or 8 guys. I realize injuries are a thing but lets face it if Mobley or Adams is injured the season is sunk anyhow.
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