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Post by ohs73 on Nov 19, 2019 20:36:31 GMT -5
28 of 31 aftee the break. 30 pts overall after only two in opening 20 min. This performance will turn heads across the country.
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Post by metman on Nov 19, 2019 20:38:55 GMT -5
28 of 31 aftee the break. 30 pts overall after only two in opening 20 min. This performance will turn heads across the country. No doubt about it. Just an amazing performance.
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Post by ohs73 on Nov 19, 2019 20:48:16 GMT -5
In final 5 nin, four UVM turnovers led to 10-2 UVA surge. Cavs may prevail, but Lamb put some kind of scare into their innards. Makes me appreciate how well Bona defended him earlier this month.
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Post by ohs73 on Nov 19, 2019 20:56:21 GMT -5
61-55 UVa final Lamb 30 but scoreless last 5:25 as Cavs clamped down. Still, a terrific 2nd half.
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Post by ohs73 on Nov 19, 2019 21:13:04 GMT -5
Davidson, Dayton and URI with strong efforts in Tues 11/19 wins. Throw in VCU, that's a potent quartet.
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Post by class70 on Nov 21, 2019 9:47:06 GMT -5
There was much discussion in the off-season regarding the strength of Bona's OOC schedule. At this early point in the season, strength of each DI team can now be a bit better estimated, though we are still a good way from getting convincing performance data. It is nonetheless interesting to see how Kenpom rates the top A10 teams at this time and what his estimate of non-conference strength of schedule is for each team. In A10 rank order, here are the data for the teams ranked down to #8 Bona: 1. VCU--237 2. Dayton-- 302 3. Davidson-- 164 4. Rhody-- 168 5. Duquesne-- 322 6. Richmond-- 286 7. SLU-- 280 8. SBU-- 131 I am not sure whether the SOS figures relate to only the teams played so far or the entire OOC schedule. However, I believe it's the rating for the entire schedule, since kenpom also provides the in-conference SOS (though none of those games has yet been played). While our athletic department was criticized by some for developing a too-easy schedule, that does not at all to appear to be what they did.
Edit: An interesting observation is the apparent correlation between experience and rank in the A10 standings. Starting with the most experienced (VCU) to the least (Bona), the rank order is identical, except for Davidson, which ranks behind Richmond and above SLU in years experience.
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Post by thebonafan08 on Nov 21, 2019 10:17:54 GMT -5
So bottom half is what we are going for? Understood.
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Post by class70 on Nov 21, 2019 10:34:06 GMT -5
So bottom half is what we are going for? Understood. No, you obviously don't understand.
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Post by res on Nov 21, 2019 10:49:35 GMT -5
SOS is for games played to date. Expect these to change significantly by the end of the OOC.
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Post by Pinnum on Nov 21, 2019 11:19:05 GMT -5
So bottom half is what we are going for? Understood. No, the lower number means a tougher schedule. From KenPom: "The SOS figure represents the strength of team that would be expected to win half its games against the team’s schedule." The Bonnies SOS is ranked 133. A team needs to be rated +2.59 to be able to win half of the games against the schedule. (#134 Nebraska or #122Nevada would be expected to finish around .500 with the Bonnies's schedule.) VCU's SOS is ranked 241. A team would need to be rated -3.95 to be able to win half of the games against the schedule. (Brown or South Dakota State would be expected to finish around .500 with VCU's schedule.) This is the discrepancy between the averages that go into strength of schedule and the what fans actually value in a schedule. VCU's weaker schedule (only including games played thus far for expediency): - St. Francis PA (#229) - North Texas (#182) - LSU (#39) - Jacksonville State (#216) The Bonnies tougher schedule: - Ohio (#177) - Vermont (#67) - Siena (#204) - Rutgers (#81) So based on this methodology, the Bonnies would have to be better than #130 in order to be expected to be above .500 at this point in the season. But VCU would only need to be better than #214 in order to be expected to be above .500 at this point in the season. But that isn't what fans argue about. The fans only care about one game on VCU's schedule and that one game makes people claim that VCU has the tougher schedule. VCU's schedule is tougher, in the mind of fans, because there is a top-50 team from a major conference. This is the disconnect.
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Post by thebonafan08 on Nov 21, 2019 11:19:11 GMT -5
So bottom half is what we are going for? Understood. No, you obviously don't understand. Yikes. I read it again. Fair. We are done with what I think is the toughest part of our OOC schedule. Actually for a young team front loading the schedule with hardest opponents is open to critique but I don’t think that is fair. The only question is does the schedule create a feasible path to an at large bid. This schedule does not.
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Post by fan4ever on Nov 21, 2019 11:24:48 GMT -5
The schedule shits the bed.
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Post by tastylicks on Nov 21, 2019 11:58:20 GMT -5
So bottom half is what we are going for? Understood. No, the lower number means a tougher schedule. From KenPom: "The SOS figure represents the strength of team that would be expected to win half its games against the team’s schedule." The Bonnies SOS is ranked 133. A team needs to be rated +2.59 to be able to win half of the games against the schedule. (#134 Nebraska or #122Nevada would be expected to finish around .500 with the Bonnies's schedule.) VCU's SOS is ranked 241. A team would need to be rated -3.95 to be able to win half of the games against the schedule. (Brown or South Dakota State would be expected to finish around .500 with VCU's schedule.) This is the discrepancy between the averages that go into strength of schedule and the what fans actually value in a schedule. VCU's weaker schedule (only including games played thus far for expediency): - St. Francis PA (#229) - North Texas (#182) - LSU (#39) - Jacksonville State (#216) The Bonnies tougher schedule: - Ohio (#177) - Vermont (#67) - Siena (#204) - Rutgers (#81) So based on this methodology, the Bonnies would have to be better than #130 in order to be expected to be above .500 at this point in the season. But VCU would only need to be better than #214 in order to be expected to be above .500 at this point in the season. But that isn't what fans argue about. The fans only care about one game on VCU's schedule and that one game makes people claim that VCU has the tougher schedule. VCU's schedule is tougher, in the mind of fans, because there is a top-50 team from a major conference. This is the disconnect. In the minds of everyone VCU's schedule is better. The current numbers are just skewed cause we've only played 2 weeks. but the end of the season, shoot by the end of Thanksgiving, the numbers will be very different
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Post by res on Nov 21, 2019 12:11:19 GMT -5
No, the lower number means a tougher schedule. From KenPom: "The SOS figure represents the strength of team that would be expected to win half its games against the team’s schedule." The Bonnies SOS is ranked 133. A team needs to be rated +2.59 to be able to win half of the games against the schedule. (#134 Nebraska or #122Nevada would be expected to finish around .500 with the Bonnies's schedule.) VCU's SOS is ranked 241. A team would need to be rated -3.95 to be able to win half of the games against the schedule. (Brown or South Dakota State would be expected to finish around .500 with VCU's schedule.) This is the discrepancy between the averages that go into strength of schedule and the what fans actually value in a schedule. VCU's weaker schedule (only including games played thus far for expediency): - St. Francis PA (#229) - North Texas (#182) - LSU (#39) - Jacksonville State (#216) The Bonnies tougher schedule: - Ohio (#177) - Vermont (#67) - Siena (#204) - Rutgers (#81) So based on this methodology, the Bonnies would have to be better than #130 in order to be expected to be above .500 at this point in the season. But VCU would only need to be better than #214 in order to be expected to be above .500 at this point in the season. But that isn't what fans argue about. The fans only care about one game on VCU's schedule and that one game makes people claim that VCU has the tougher schedule. VCU's schedule is tougher, in the mind of fans, because there is a top-50 team from a major conference. This is the disconnect. You are of course correct, Pinnum, but you have left out one other key component, that being the location of the games. VCU's schedule strength ranks low in part because they have played all four of their games at home. As we all know Bona has played two at home, one neutral, and one away. Siena away is actually a slightly tougher game than North Texas at home. Thus, VCU has played LSU and three opponents inferior to anyone Bona has yet played. And playing LSU at home is roughly equivalent to playing Vermont on the road, as Bona did last year. With that said, Bona in all likelihood has already played its two toughest OOC opponents and its strength of schedule is bound to fall as the Canisius, Niagara and a couple of other games are recorded, but it's still interesting to look at the numbers.
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Post by kcSBU03 on Nov 21, 2019 13:07:51 GMT -5
No, you obviously don't understand. Yikes. I read it again. Fair. We are done with what I think is the toughest part of our OOC schedule. Actually for a young team front loading the schedule with hardest opponents is open to critique but I don’t think that is fair. The only question is does the schedule create a feasible path to an at large bid. This schedule does not. Correct but losing to Ohio and Siena took care of it anyway.
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