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Post by class70 on Nov 25, 2019 12:21:28 GMT -5
So you don't think any of this reflects on the quality of the product the University produces? you are free to do what you wish with your money / donations, but that sounds more like an excuse you want to make vs. something real. Besides, you don't even know if these posters you don't like even WENT to the University. this is an open public forum. No, not an excuse. There are about 40 different entities on my list for year-end donations. Some of them are educational institutions, many veterans or American heritage related or Christian/missionary organizations of some kind. You take x% of your income and ask yourself, who should get this money instead of my children/heirs? Your alma mater ought to be on the list, but as the cultural identity weakens your support might also. Is everyone here an alum? Of course not. But many of us have disclosed our affiliation at some point, and what would you expect it to be?
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Post by romeoblues on Nov 25, 2019 12:23:57 GMT -5
Bonas08 and elitetaylor33: you have just over three hours to reinstate my client, LesterGreen (3:30 PM EST). Should he not be reinstated by our deadline, we will have no choice but to declare a Civil War within the St. Bonaventure community.
The ball is in your court.
-Romeo
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Post by mcspin on Nov 25, 2019 12:27:06 GMT -5
I have questioned the decisions of the administrators of this board privately for a while but try to keep those frustrations to myself unless something egregious happens. Obviously being an admin on here is a thankless job, and Bonas08 has had more important matters to attend to with his health. With that caveat out of the way. What FirstDev has been allowed to post on this board during this offseason was allowed to go on for too long. The LesterGreen account if it existed before this summer it was not a volume contributor (hard to verify now that the account has been removed). His account was born out of the nonsense that was allowed all offseason. Was the LesterGreen bit a little played out and trying too hard? Yes, but this account a lot like other banned/maligned accounts had coherent basketball posts 50% of the time and added a little levity to this place that is often a hellscape. I am not up to date on the exchange that got the account banned, but as others have posted if something extremely terrible was said or at least something the breaks terms of service, remove the post, deal with the owner of the account directly. There are several accounts that deserve to be banned/warned about behavior through PM but LesterGreen generally isn’t one of them. There are accounts that contribute less than 0 to any actual discussion and they continue to be allowed post and are engaged with regularly. There is a block feature that greatly improves this site, if Lester bothers people so much those people can use the OO feature or just scroll on by. There are days I get on here after a loss and 3/4s of a page are blocked/ignored posts. It makes this place somewhat more bearable. If you are starting to wonder why am I even on here if so much of the discourse is noise/frustrating to me. And I have begun to ask myself the same question. However I’m addicted to the Bonnies. I spend 40+ hours a week glued to a computer that has most social media sites blocked and this site is allowed and gives me mini hits of the Bonnies dopamine. I agree with most of what you said. I actually don't mind reading this forum because I block everyone who annoys me and I don't peek at their blocked posts. It would be better if the software did not show the "blocked post" notice, but this is a good enough work-around. I really don't care what certain posters have to say. I can't figure out why so many others don't use the block feature, but it seems they prefer the tension of uncivil discourse.
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Post by tastylicks on Nov 25, 2019 12:28:27 GMT -5
you are free to do what you wish with your money / donations, but that sounds more like an excuse you want to make vs. something real. Besides, you don't even know if these posters you don't like even WENT to the University. this is an open public forum. No, not an excuse. There are about 40 different entities on my list for year-end donations. Some of them are educational institutions, many veterans or American heritage related or Christian/missionary organizations of some kind. You take x% of your income and ask yourself, who should get this money instead of my children/heirs? Your alma mater ought to be on the list, but as the cultural identity weakens your support might also. Is everyone here an alum? Of course not. But many of us have disclosed our affiliation at some point, and what would you expect it to be? again, you are free to donate to whoever you wish. Good for you, I don't care really. I'm not here change your mind It's just ridiculous to point to this website as a reason you want to donate less to SBU. This place has nothing to do with SBU. It's like a bar. Suppose you go into a bar and some guys are watching the St. Bonaventure game. You decide they are knuckleheads so you strip your donation to SBU because its a reflection on the university? haha that's absurd in my opinion
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Post by sbu79 on Nov 25, 2019 12:57:39 GMT -5
I don't get this. Inane banter on a non-sanctioned social media platform not endorsed or supported by the University influences how much financial support you give to the University? I guess in another theater of discourse that's how they get certain voters to stay home too. So you don't think any of this reflects on the quality of the product the University produces? If you mean the terrible grammar, the deficiency of logic/critical thinking skills and the all too often incivility of the conversation, then I would say all those definitely reflect on the contributors to this board. Whether they reflect on the University, and what era of the University, is a tougher connection. As has been said elsewhere, not all posters here attended the University. Also, my perception is that there are few, if any, current students posting here. The self-identified graduates that post here span generations, but they are all past graduates not currently being influenced by the school. Again, as has been said, you are free to do with your money what you see fit, and I can only speak for myself. For me, without getting into the current state of education in this country, I ask myself “Is what St. Bonaventure stands for (right now), and the impact it will have on lives and ultimately our society, marginally better or worse than what is going on in education in general (right now) and should it be supported in that?” What is said on a social media board has minimal influence in my evaluation.
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Post by fjs64 on Nov 25, 2019 13:10:56 GMT -5
I have been posting on this Board and its predecessors since the 1990's, so I have seen and read much, mostly Bona related, and some not. I have recommended some posters being warned/banned, and have always tried to support the Administrators.
So a little history: this iteration of the Board was started in 2005. Somewhat after that, a group of disgruntled posters, who were extremely angry at the Admin, formed their own Board. It was known as the "Bevel" Board, and interestingly it was appended to something called the Bona Alumni Board. I also joined that Board, because it provided good insight into Bona Basketball. I assume the leader was Sir Elton Ruddock. The Board at times contained content that would be banned on this Board, and was laced with profanity. Fine, if it wasn't part of this Bona Alumni Board....I googled Bona Alumni, and always came up with this site....which to me was not a fair representation of Bona Alumni. I did complain to our Alumni representatives.
At some point the Board closed down, and many of the posters migrated to the A10 Board. They were much more civil, and continued to have good insight into the program. One of the knowledgeable posters was Bill Russell, who usually had good content. Although the former "bevelators" on the A10 Board would discuss the Bandwagon, as the Bannedwagon, and had many negative comments about the Board and its posters. Saying to a man that they would never post on the Bandwagon. Some of Bill Russell's posts were not well taken, as his filter, was compromised by overly imbibing....at least that is what was thought and said at the A10 Board.
The A10 Board has been losing readership and posters, and thus some have joined or rejoined the Bandwagon....in my opinion, Lester Green is one of them, and probably is Bill Russell/Sir Elton. And some of the posters defending Lester, are probably former Bevelators. I have been pleased to have Lester on the Board, and reading between the lines of the jibberish has shown solid content, but his comment on fighting the UB poster (as they are both living in Buffalo), and the next post about murder is going beyond the line....probably the "filter" was compromised.
And a post today "Bonas08 and elitetaylor33: you have just over three hours to reinstate my client, LesterGreen (3:30 PM EST). Should he not be reinstated by our deadline, we will have no choice but to declare a Civil War within the St. Bonaventure community.
The ball is in your court. -Romeo". This is uncalled for, even if attempting humor. This reminds me when one of the former admins was threathened, and in fact damage to man's vehicle was done, and more threats, finally that Admin, quit the job. I hope that these threats are not valid.
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Post by Jive36 on Nov 25, 2019 13:12:04 GMT -5
I block everyone who annoys me and I don't peek at their blocked posts. It would be better if the software did not show the "blocked post" notice You are the master of your domain I do not have that level of self control but at least when I go to click on the blocked post button I know I'm about to get a bad take and don't plan on reading it word for word. Another forum that I frequent minimizes the space a blocked post takes up so it is hard to notice as you are scrolling through.
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Post by Bonas08 on Nov 25, 2019 13:25:18 GMT -5
Bonas08 and elitetaylor33: you have just over three hours to reinstate my client, LesterGreen (3:30 PM EST). Should he not be reinstated by our deadline, we will have no choice but to declare a Civil War within the St. Bonaventure community. The ball is in your court. -Romeo
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Post by Bonafan71 on Nov 25, 2019 13:54:41 GMT -5
One thing is sure: whether here in person or spirit, lester is definitely entertaining.
I vote to bring him back but that ain’t got nothin’ to do with me, pal.
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Post by DoyleBonas on Nov 25, 2019 14:26:33 GMT -5
Let's ban Lester for clearly being hyperbolic, but not the UB troll that literally makes the same joke every time the Bonnies lose? Oh ok...
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Post by elitetaylor33 on Nov 25, 2019 14:27:29 GMT -5
More than likely Romeo and bonabandwagoncommenter ARE Lester Green considering they are old accounts reactivated right after Lester was banned, hopefully “Lester” sees this and realizes he’s not fooling anyone, and if he keeps it up we can ban those accounts too and any new one he opens and acts like a fool with. If he acts with respect there is no problem, but the name Lester Green is dead and gone forever You guys take the admin role way to seriously. That said how does the UB guy get a pass? Tom’s angry posts where everyone is a troll? FirstDev? Good thing Lester had a burner account at the ready. I guess I better set one up. Yeah I know you told us this when I started helping out because Andy wasn’t feeling good and needed help, thanks!
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Post by Bonas08 on Nov 25, 2019 14:33:20 GMT -5
I am just anxious for 3:30 EST Civil War.. Got the Xanax ready to go!
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Post by romeoblues on Nov 25, 2019 15:00:04 GMT -5
I am just anxious for 3:30 EST Civil War.. Got the Xanax ready to go! This board is already in full-blown meltdown mode, so perhaps our Civil War has already begun. “As you know, madness is like gravity... all it takes is a little push.” You have one half hour.
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Post by sburoundball on Nov 25, 2019 15:03:56 GMT -5
You have to wonder if some of these people actually have degrees. And no, not from McDonald's Hamburger U.
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Post by Normal Bandwagon Commenter on Nov 25, 2019 15:07:48 GMT -5
You have to wonder if some of these people actually have degrees. And no, not from McDonald's Hamburger U. Yes, My Wife Muriel Says LesterGreen Is A Mayor McCheeseHead And Seeing His Posts On Our Compaq Makes Her Grimace. LOL!
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