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Post by elitetaylor33 on Nov 26, 2019 2:41:21 GMT -5
As Moderators we understand some people are upset that Lester has been banned but stop saying we’re banning other members, messing with polls (if we cared wouldn’t we simply take it down, as you have pointed out so many times, but that’s not something we would do, also learn to count its 16-7), and we haven’t banned anyone else. Again we’re just trying to help this forum run smoothly and without problems daily, there is no dark and sinister plan/motivation behind the scenes, but we are people too who do this for free because we love the University and what it stands for, being attacked personally from one individual and lied about is getting annoying, so if your sole intention is to get banned to prove a point I would stop cause it’s not going to happen. Now if you cross an ethical and moral line that’s a whole different conversation that we can have privately, time to grow up My god. The wagon has more admins than the Athletic Department has assistant A.D’s! Well we just wanted to make sure you had another thing to complain about, and to harp on for months on end, so thank you for not disappointing
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Post by 2fal4life on Nov 26, 2019 6:04:52 GMT -5
C’mon people, at least make the effort to vote to we can get a statistical meaningful sample size.
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Post by thebonafan08 on Nov 26, 2019 7:30:40 GMT -5
My god. The wagon has more admins than the Athletic Department has assistant A.D’s! Well we just wanted to make sure you had another thing to complain about, and to harp on for months on end, so thank you for not disappointing Takes two to tango. Looks like your doing a stellar job moderating perhaps you need a 5th or 6th?
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Post by pete on Nov 26, 2019 8:10:24 GMT -5
I voted he should return to the board.
His gibberish is a waste of bandwidth but he has some unique insights from time to time.
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Post by elitetaylor33 on Nov 26, 2019 8:15:38 GMT -5
Well we just wanted to make sure you had another thing to complain about, and to harp on for months on end, so thank you for not disappointing Takes two to tango. Looks like your doing a stellar job moderating perhaps you need a 5th or 6th? Trust me there is no dance here, that was the second time I responded to you but the fifth time you made the same remark, I don’t know if you were initially mad about something since on the day Andy and Tom said I would be helping them you were literally the only one to make a negative remark about it, like you were upset about it, like something was done to you? But as usual you have continued to complain non-stop. If you have an issue outside of Lester that you would like to discuss please feel free to message myself, Andy, or Tom, but if not I would suggest pulling up your big boy pants and stop pouting about whatever it is you think you got taken away from you.
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Post by sbu79 on Nov 26, 2019 8:45:52 GMT -5
I voted early and wasn't planning on commenting, but some of what I'm seeing reinforced why I voted the way I did.
I voted that, yes, Lester should be allowed back. I don't know what all the complaints were that the admins received about Lester that prompted shutting him down, but if it was about his (purposely) malformed sentences, then that seems pretty weak. I don't get any particular enjoyment from them, but there are a few more posters that rarely give me any enjoyment with what they post. At least in Lester's case, there was occasionally some useful background information buried in those postings, and when he broke character and posted in a straightforward way, he added to the board. Now, someone may have deemed his whole shtick offensive to some class, or some of his individual postings may have been inappropriate, but that hasn't been stated, so I didn't consider that in deciding how to vote.
Observing that another poster (purposely) posts another kind of nonsense over and over and even gets admins to respond to the nonsense but remains an active account only reinforces why I voted as I did. Lester's ban seems arbitrary based on what is known.
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Post by West End Stench on Nov 26, 2019 8:56:07 GMT -5
Gotta free Lester buddy pal this is gettin' outta ham.
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Post by bona98 on Nov 26, 2019 8:59:59 GMT -5
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Post by spils84 on Nov 26, 2019 9:12:28 GMT -5
1. If you sign onto the internet, you should expect to be offended in some fashion. 2. As a group, we complain about the lack of information, then we eliminate someone who is dispensing said information. 3. There is far too much violence in the world, so anything that can be done to prevent a civil war should be done. 4. Goofy and witty is far better than dour and bland. 5. Go Bona’s!
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Post by romeoblues on Nov 26, 2019 9:21:39 GMT -5
Was Lester banned because of his disability? This seems more and more unfair every day. Banning people because of how they talk is not right, and the Civil War will continue to be fought over this injustice. Free Lester!
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Post by fjs64 on Nov 26, 2019 9:42:09 GMT -5
I voted "no", not because of his gibberish posts, which I enjoyed deciphering as their was usually a nugget. I even enjoyed his posts on the A10 Board.....and previously as Sir Elton (minus the profanity rants). But he gets banned when he crosses the line....when he discusses murdering someone, or physically fighting someone that he doesn't like....whether serious or not. That is crossing the line of this Board, and many others. So those defending his threats ought to look at what you are defending.
I don't want him "gone", oh wait he is still here.....but possibly show a little more common sense.
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Post by kcSBU03 on Nov 26, 2019 10:16:49 GMT -5
If firstdev and the UB douchebag have not been banned then its flat out silly to ban Lester. You guys should know he is not serious when he offers to fight a dickhole UB fan.
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Post by sbu79 on Nov 26, 2019 10:43:06 GMT -5
I think fjs64 makes important points. These have not been disclosed as the reason for the banning, so I wouldn't change my vote, but they are worth discussing for the betterment of the board.
64 (along with Res, in a way) has also brought up historical context. The guy behind the Lester account has been here under many names over the years. He was one of the original Bevelators, as well. The Bevel was formed in response to bannings here because a portion of this community did not care for their discussions. I don't recall them being "out of bounds," but they were off topic more than not. So, they were banned, and they created their own board. It was a truly unruly place.
If it still exists in an archive somewhere, I told them back then that they had too much objectionable content, and it reflected poorly on all involved. That didn't help, but over the course of time, participation on that board fell off in spite of calls for more members. I continued to check in because, like Lester here, the posters often contributed interesting information about the Bonnies or the school, and the rougher stuff rolled off just like if I was with a bunch of guys sitting around the keg busting each others balls. Many others, however, dropped, off, due, in my opinion, to the abuse and objectionable reactions they received as not being part of that "friends around the keg" culture that founded the board.
So, here we are again. Do we really have to do this again? Can we have posters that contribute good stuff even if we don't like everything they post? Can those contributors reign in their temptations toward anti-social hyperbole? I'd say let's give it another try.
By the way, I believe the reason a Google search for bona alumni would turn up the Bevel was because they bought the rights to the domain name "********" Similar cases happen all the time. I do believe, at founding, they had dreams of it becoming more that what ultimately happened.
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Post by tomgleason on Nov 26, 2019 10:59:10 GMT -5
If firstdev and the UB douchebag have not been banned then its flat out silly to ban Lester. You guys should know he is not serious when he offers to fight a dickhole UB fan. firstdev hasn’t been in here in about a month 😉
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Post by elitetaylor33 on Nov 26, 2019 11:02:47 GMT -5
I think fjs64 makes important points. These have not been disclosed as the reason for the banning, so I wouldn't change my vote, but they are worth discussing for the betterment of the board. 64 (along with Res, in a way) has also brought up historical context. The guy behind the Lester account has been here under many names over the years. He was one of the original Bevelators, as well. The Bevel was formed in response to bannings here because a portion of this community did not care for their discussions. I don't recall them being "out of bounds," but they were off topic more than not. So, they were banned, and they created their own board. It was a truly unruly place. If it still exists in an archive somewhere, I told them back then that they had too much objectionable content, and it reflected poorly on all involved. That didn't help, but over the course of time, participation on that board fell off in spite of calls for more members. I continued to check in because, like Lester here, the posters often contributed interesting information about the Bonnies or the school, and the rougher stuff rolled off just like if I was with a bunch of guys sitting around the keg busting each others balls. Many others, however, dropped, off, due, in my opinion, to the abuse and objectionable reactions they received as not being part of that "friends around the keg" culture that founded the board. So, here we are again. Do we really have to do this again? Can we have posters that contribute good stuff even if we don't like everything they post? Can those contributors reign in their temptations toward anti-social hyperbole? I'd say let's give it another try. By the way, I believe the reason a Google search for bona alumni would turn up the Bevel was because they bought the rights to the domain name "********" Similar cases happen all the time. I do believe, at founding, they had dreams of it becoming more that what ultimately happened. This is the very last time i’ll speak on this but since a good handful of you feel the need to defend Lester’s character what finally got him banned was all the complaints we received for Lester saying “let’s MURDER HIM”, while another one Lester was talking about A Certain Player on the Team saying and I quote “bub he dies of aids wah wah wah retard dick hang to the calf muscle” and the rest I can’t and won’t repeat cause it’s way way worse and could actually get us in trouble!! Another time he called someone a “pussy” then “up your dick hole” again with the rest I can’t repeat! And after he said since they are in the same city they should meet up and fight. So i’ll put it this way, we’re not going let one person and his “silly rants” jeopardize the forum for everyone else, even the ones who seem to condone his words by demanding him back (which isn’t happening by the way, I think we’ve made that clear) if you condone the things he said and continually says go be friends with him, we’re not telling you not to be, but we’re not letting him post “his harmless little rants” on here because they aren’t HARMLESS and we also weren’t the original ones to decide that BUT we absolutely agreed with it.
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