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Post by ceharv on May 29, 2021 8:04:51 GMT -5
Do not be expecting an “official” statement from the school stating or hinting at a reason for this decision. Any statement brings with it risk of exposure to a lawsuit, for which the school may or may not have insurance coverage (and if there is coverage, any claim will result in increased premiums and/or higher deductibles or reduced coverages moving forward. There’s always a price to be paid for future insurance with a claim history). So employers tend to rely on a policy of “not commenting on employment decisions”. Satisfying the curiosity of alums and supporters just isn’t worth the risk, so they clam up and decline to comment, and no amount of thinking that supporters “deserve” an explanation will likely change that (“deserve?” really?). The best you can expect is a kind of PR fluff statement written so wonderfully by fjs earlier in this thread. The professional approach is to keep things private, move forward and ignore what others think they deserve. If Tim wants to comment, that’s his decision but don’t expect the school to get sucked into publicizing it’s decision-making just to satisfy our curiosity.
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Post by Pinnum on May 29, 2021 8:26:28 GMT -5
I suspect this is a power grab from some members of our BOT with an interim president not having any say in the matter. Presidents work for the BOT. The BOT are the ones responsible for the the school and they hire and fire the executive management team charged with the day to day operations.
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Post by 2fal4life on May 29, 2021 8:29:47 GMT -5
It is unprecedented for Bona, not to renew the contract of its athletics director (technically Gothard Lane resigned), so sure I’m curious why they chose to force Kenney to leave. It makes you wonder why, especially with JP's article listing Kenney's impressive accomplishments. Kenney’s accomplishment “overseeing a men’s basketball program that twice made the NCAA Tournament (2018 and ‘21; and a women’s team that advanced in 2016)” has an obvious omission by failing to mention Jesse Fleming. I do not in any way think it is the only reason Kenney was fired, but I wonder if it was a factor. — With the remodeling of Reilly Center it is apparent Jesse Fleming received a new contract. Main entrance to Bob Lanier Court has Schmidt and Fleming welcoming fans. — Bet you would be surprised to know Kenney made just $2,000 more than Fleming. JPs article has Kenney making $157,207 while Fleming made $155,000. — I was curious to see how Kenney was going to justify Fleming’s new contract. It appears news of Fleming receiving a new contract wasn't going to be made public. — The BV has an article titled “Coach Fleming needs to be evaluated.” Article concludes with following. “Fleming has had more than enough time and needs to go. Bonaventure needs a great men’s and women’s basketball team again. Bonaventure shouldn’t have paid a coach $155,000 in 2019 to win eight basketball games a year." I'm sure there are more than author of The BV article, who was less than supportive of Fleming's new contract. www.thebvnewspaper.com/2021/04/15/coach-fleming-needs-to-be-evaluated/That is quite strange, I would have expected our AD to make much more than that. He also should be making quite a bit more than our horrendous WBB coach.
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Post by Pinnum on May 29, 2021 8:33:31 GMT -5
As others have mentioned. It would be absurd to expect any public statements on personnel decisions. Schools decide not to renew contracts all the time all over the country and they absolutely do not hold press conferences to announce they are not renewing contracts. They put out one paragraph statements to the media saying they are not renewing, thank them for their service, and wish them luck in the future.
Press conferences are for new hires and new beginnings. You’d only have a press conference for retirements and even then you rarely see them.
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Post by bub on May 29, 2021 9:10:08 GMT -5
As others have mentioned. It would be absurd to expect any public statements on personnel decisions. Schools decide not to renew contracts all the time all over the country and they absolutely do not hold press conferences to announce they are not renewing contracts. They put out one paragraph statements to the media saying they are not renewing, thank them for their service, and wish them luck in the future. Press conferences are for new hires and new beginnings. You’d only have a press conference for retirements and even then you rarely see them. Call it what you want. He got fired.
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Post by thesenator on May 29, 2021 9:27:04 GMT -5
One thing we alums/friends of Bona's can do is to put our "two cents" in here in what we would like to see our next AD accomplish...Obviously #1 is to maintain the high degree of performance that Coach Schmidt has attained with our flagship athletic program: men's basketball...our women's basketball program has to improve radically...and immediately...if no other reason than, after men's basketball, it has the most potential (from the athletic standpoint) to bring the name St Bonaventure University to the outside world...I would like to see all our D1 teams have the maximum number of scholarships allowed per the particular sport and, once that has been reached, give the particular coach in each sport 4 seasons to bring us to the upper half of the standings in that particular sport (which for almost all of our teams except for men's basketball and men's swimming would be a hell of a jump but if we're fully funded isn't asking the impossible I don't think)...and, in exchange for accomplishing all of the above, let's pay the person a salary commensurate with such achievements...
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Post by thebonafan08 on May 29, 2021 12:11:31 GMT -5
As others have mentioned. It would be absurd to expect any public statements on personnel decisions. Schools decide not to renew contracts all the time all over the country and they absolutely do not hold press conferences to announce they are not renewing contracts. They put out one paragraph statements to the media saying they are not renewing, thank them for their service, and wish them luck in the future. Press conferences are for new hires and new beginnings. You’d only have a press conference for retirements and even then you rarely see them. TK got fired, call it what you will. You absolutely explain to the university community why a top leader in the school is no longer at the helm. Particularly as a result when you now have a situation where the highest paid and most visible face of the university has no permanent role to report to. Particularly when the most identifiable aspect of the university in the men’s basketball team is at a massive historical 50 year peak. Press conference, statement, anything. They have had 72 hours and nothing Informing the alumni/fan community is how professional D1 organizations act. Transparency and ownership of decisions. End of story.
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Post by ohs73 on May 29, 2021 12:37:35 GMT -5
bigdobber, interesting perspective re BOT and Fleming. So it was those board members, not TK, who worked to retain Fleming? All this time I thought TK had a blind spot when it came to evaluating that dreadful coach.
Had to be that and other unknown underlying factors that forced TK out.
I thought that for the most part TK did a good job, based on items mentioned earlier this thread.
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Post by 2fal4life on May 29, 2021 13:22:13 GMT -5
bigdobber, interesting perspective re BOT and Fleming. So it was those board members, not TK, who worked to retain Fleming? All this time I thought TK had a blind spot when it came to evaluating that dreadful coach. Had to be that and other unknown underlying factors that forced TK out. I thought that for the most part TK did a good job, based on items mentioned earlier this thread. The entire BOT needs to be shitcanned if they retained Fleming at that salary.
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Post by Bona84 on May 29, 2021 14:23:57 GMT -5
As others have mentioned. It would be absurd to expect any public statements on personnel decisions. Schools decide not to renew contracts all the time all over the country and they absolutely do not hold press conferences to announce they are not renewing contracts. They put out one paragraph statements to the media saying they are not renewing, thank them for their service, and wish them luck in the future. Press conferences are for new hires and new beginnings. You’d only have a press conference for retirements and even then you rarely see them. TK got fired, call it what you will. You absolutely explain to the university community why a top leader in the school is no longer at the helm. Particularly as a result when you now have a situation where the highest paid and most visible face of the university has no permanent role to report to. Particularly when the most identifiable aspect of the university in the men’s basketball team is at a massive historical 50 year peak. Press conference, statement, anything. They have had 72 hours and nothing Informing the alumni/fan community is how professional D1 organizations act. Transparency and ownership of decisions. End of story. No. No you don't. Story has ended.
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Post by efsboca on May 29, 2021 14:28:59 GMT -5
bigdobber, interesting perspective re BOT and Fleming. So it was those board members, not TK, who worked to retain Fleming? All this time I thought TK had a blind spot when it came to evaluating that dreadful coach. Had to be that and other unknown underlying factors that forced TK out. I thought that for the most part TK did a good job, based on items mentioned earlier this thread. The entire BOT needs to be shitcanned if they retained Fleming at that salary. I would agree, or maybe the BOT canned TK because he re-upped the contract. As a minor team coach, TK probably had the authority to re-sign. In the end, we will not know the why, but if the BOT agreed to the signing, they also need to be held accountable. In the meantime, they need to find the right President, but it would be good to make a statement on the position and letting people know what is happening with the openings as they are two of the more important posts. You don’t have to say why they are open but that they are and their plans and timing for filling. This is a really sensitive time with the BBall team able to provide more free university advertising than anytime in recent memory. At the same time, given we may want to try to follow the Gonzaga model, maybe it was thought we needed someone more experienced than TK with national properties. In the end, who knows, but still irked about Fleming.
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Post by Felca on May 29, 2021 14:40:12 GMT -5
The University owes us no explanation. For all we know it was a mutual parting of the ways and let’s keep it that way. TK will get other job opportunities and he can tell his version of what happened and the BOT can keep it’s reasoning private. We will hire a new President and AD and all will be fine. No doubt someone on BOT has privately reached out to Schmidt and explained the situation. Lets’s hope the small portion of our libtard alumni relax and watch inflation sky rocket, the Middle East turn chaotic, and illegal immigration be ignored.
Peace!
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Post by efsboca on May 29, 2021 14:48:02 GMT -5
The entire BOT needs to be shitcanned if they retained Fleming at that salary. I would agree, or maybe the BOT canned TK because he re-upped the contract. As a minor team coach, TK probably had the authority to re-sign. In the end, we will not know the why, but if the BOT agreed to the signing, they also need to be held accountable. In the meantime, they need to find the right President, but it would be good to make a statement on the position and letting people know what is happening with the openings as they are two of the more important posts. You don’t have to say why they are open but that they are and their plans and timing for filling. This is a really sensitive time with the BBall team able to provide more free university advertising than anytime in recent memory. At the same time, given we may want to try to follow the Gonzaga model, maybe it was thought we needed someone more experienced than TK with national properties. In the end, who knows, but still irked about Fleming. Heck, the real concern is that if the BOT rehired Fleming, then I question their ability to judge talent and hire a President.
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Post by efsboca on May 29, 2021 14:52:15 GMT -5
The University owes us no explanation. For all we know it was a mutual parting of the ways and let’s keep it that way. TK will get other job opportunities and he can tell his version of what happened and the BOT can keep it’s reasoning private. We will hire a new President and AD and all will be fine. No doubt someone on BOT has privately reached out to Schmidt and explained the situation. Lets’s hope the small portion of our libtard alumni relax and watch inflation sky rocket, the Middle East turn chaotic, and illegal immigration be ignored. Peace! No need for the last line.
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Post by bigdobber on May 29, 2021 15:42:46 GMT -5
Your not getting any AD candidate with the ability to raise the athletic programs to national levels at 150k a year to come to WNY to work their magic. Some of you guys need to get your heads out of the clouds and deal with reality. I’m just hoping that we end up with someone that doesn’t screw up the progress made by the men’s program under Schmidt. By the way, Schmidt was hired by Watson and give TK credit for leaving that alone. Change at the top usually ends up with change down the line. Preseason #15 doesn’t need to be tinkered with by someone looking to put their stamp on the department. Looking back at the AD position before Steve Watson coincides with some dark times in the Enchanted Mountains. . Gothard Lane and the guy who hired Sol come to mind.
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