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Post by FriendsofAN44 on Jun 8, 2005 15:48:15 GMT -5
This is just a brief synopsis from today's Times Herald (entire article and an editorial article should be online by tomorrow - I hope)
MOTION TO DISMISS CHRGES AGAINST RELPH DENIED
SBU basketball player Tyler Relph is scheduled to re-appear in court in a little less than two months. Despite various motions made Tuesday night by Relph's Rochester-based attorney John DiMarco to have Relph's drunken driving charge thrown out, Allegany Village Court Judge Greg Benjamin ordered a continued hearing and possible trial set for August 2. DiMarco requested a non-jury trial. In the meantime, Benjamin will review the motions made by DiMarco.
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Post by ceharv on Jun 8, 2005 16:46:01 GMT -5
the OTH needs to be careful about the language it uses - "denied" means they were considered and rejected - if the judge is to review the motions, he hasn't denied them yet - likely he continued the hearing to another date to have time to review and consider the motions, then he will rule on them, that is, whether to dismiss the charges, likely b/c of some procedural defect raised by counsel
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Post by woof on Jun 11, 2005 14:09:50 GMT -5
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Post by B02 on Jun 11, 2005 23:45:02 GMT -5
How many games was Bremer suspended for when he stole shoes or something along those lines, using someone else's visa? I can see Relph being suspended from 2 exhibition games and maybe the 1st game. Anymore might be a little too excessive.
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Post by OL2 on Jun 12, 2005 7:00:18 GMT -5
Pollack's article. premise and rationale underscores why the guy's never been able to move on from the OTH, "Gee, let's get 10 pounds of flesh here, blah, blah, blah" When it all comes down, the kid will have been suspended for 4-5 months. Leave the games alone. Ralph will have a record, have bade his court imposed fines, received whatever sanctions, etc. This bending over backwards times 10 (ala Crowley case) is getting to be bad theatre by a gang hell bent on showing the world how straight we're going to play thins. We've made that point and made it well already. Let's move on.
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Post by woof on Jun 14, 2005 2:05:50 GMT -5
When he titled his column "Relph has put Bona in tough spot," Mr. Pollock was absolutely correct. Coach Solomon and Dr. Zwierlein do have a difficult decision to make, and the only person to fault for that is the kid who chose to get behind the wheel that night. I realize that's a lot of pressure to put on a twenty-year-old. Unfair? Perhaps. But considering that the University remains on probation through July 2006, Relph - or any other SBU student-athlete, for that matter - has to understand they're under a microscope, and act accordingly. Here's how some other schools have disciplined players following DUI arrests: Kansas basketball, 1999-2000: Lester Earl, five games Kentucky basketball, 1999-2000: Desmond Allison, NCAA tournament Kentucky basketball, 2001-02: Jules Camara, entire season Syracuse basketball, 2001-02: Deshaun Williams, three games Georgia football, 2005: Derrick White, dismissed from team Kentucky is a special case - they had a zero-tolerance policy when Allison and Camara were suspended, because one of their football players died in a DUI-related wreck a year earlier. The Georgia football player was already facing a two-game suspension due to a prior arrest. If I recall correctly, Bremer wasn't suspended for any regular-season games for the FootLocker incident, but Tim Winn got six games for his 'fight'. Given those parameters, I can foresee sitting Relph out for 4-5 games, including the exhibitions. But here's something more important than any game: making sure young Mr. Relph has a support system in place to deal with both the legal and emotional ramifications of this incident. Tough lesson to learn at any age, even if your name doesn't make the newspaper. (Personal note - a few years ago, a close friend of mine was in his early 30s when he found himself in the same situation, and the stress literally put him in the hospital.) I'm sure we all wish Tyler well in working his way through this and getting on with his life, continuing his college career, and eventually rejoining the basketball team once the suspension is lifted... whenever that may be. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As for Pollock's "never been able to move on from the OTH"... he has column space available whenever he wants it, he gets to cover the Bills for the TH and for Pro Football Weekly, and he gets to live exactly where he wants to. "Move on", hell -- I'd trade jobs with him in a heartbeat. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2005 7:23:08 GMT -5
Pollock "covering" the Bills is a strong statement. He parrots the Buffalo News. Being in charge of the OTH is not really an honor. IT is a horrible sports section. They cover local sports by just having coaches phone in results and printing whatever they tell them. Their national sports coverage consists of wire service articles. Occasionally they have a decent Bonas article written by whatever reporter that has a future. Vaccaro,Moritz x 2, and now Pezzimenti etc. There rarely is anything original from Roof, Melaro, or Pollock. All Pollock does is criticize Bonas. The good thing is that he has very little credibility. He has always felt slighted by SBU. He basically should be dismissed and I think he regularly is by most people. Bonas has to answer to their constituents parents, students, and alumni not some two bit writer who covers some Bills games by watching them on TV. Read that column, would a professional journalist make a comment such as "if Bona has an alcohol counseling program" "though not Big East-quality — at WVU." HE has an ax to grind for whatever reason and he should be given as much credibility as any small time journalist should.
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Post by bonnievet on Jun 14, 2005 8:30:10 GMT -5
Woof is correct. Tyler should not have gotten behind the wheel. The school is being tougher than some may think is necessary but Woof is right again, Bona is still on probation. After the academic and athletic scandal of two years ago, the school must maintain a hard line. It seems like the only newspaper coverage we receive these days outside of Olean is triggered by bad acts by athletes. We have had more than our share. The school's administration must be tougher than normal. Tyler may be hurt by of all this in the short term but hopefully in the long run he will be better off.
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Post by B02 on Jun 14, 2005 10:41:14 GMT -5
I believe Bonaventure is off probation at the end of this month. As for Pollack and the rest of the OTH i have stated my thoughts on them several times before. Pollack has never had a clue on talent evaluation as far as recruits and players go. Bottom line is I would expect Relph to play in almost every game this year.
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Post by bulldogbrower on Jun 14, 2005 13:22:03 GMT -5
It's not his job to evaluate talent! I think it is refreshing to have an objective view, and unlike many pollyanna views on this board, some things should be subject to critique. Just because someone may have something to say to the contrary sometimes, does not mean he has it in for them. I know Chuck (Pollock) and know for fact he does not harbor any bad feelings toward the school. He criticizes, because he can, and it is usually founded!
It is awfully difficult for the beat writer to broach anything too controversial about the team or its players. He rides the team bus/plane, stays at the same hotel...
The OTH leaves a lot to be desired, but Chuck is by far one of the best things about that publication.
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Post by woof on Jun 15, 2005 13:56:13 GMT -5
I believe Bonaventure is off probation at the end of this month. As for Pollack and the rest of the OTH i have stated my thoughts on them several times before. Pollack has never had a clue on talent evaluation as far as recruits and players go. Bottom line is I would expect Relph to play in almost every game this year. NCAA News Release, February 19, 2004 St. Bonaventure University Public Infractions Report I direct your attention to Page 16: |
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Post by woof on Jun 15, 2005 14:07:20 GMT -5
Bona87, I won't go into a point-by-point defense of Chuck Pollock here - we'll just have to agree to disagree on most of what you wrote. I would like to comment on this, though: Pollock "covering" the Bills is a strong statement. He parrots the Buffalo News. As someone who bashes out the occasional piece for a Bills website, I can safely say I've read just about every article written about the team (in either the local papers or the national media) for the last six or seven years. While the Buffalo and Rochester newspapers naturally have more depth of coverage (five BuffNews reporters versus two from the TH), I happen to find Pollock's work consistently better. The way I see it, 'parroting' the News would be a downgrade. But again, that's just my opinion. And since this board is for the Bonnies, not the Bills, I'll stop there. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2005 7:22:55 GMT -5
While not having the expertise of writing for the Bills website, I have been a Bills season ticket holder for 20 years and subscribe to The Buffalo News, Democrat and Chronicle, and Times Herald. Chuck Pollock has not had an original article on the Bills ever in my memory. He is strictly small time and a lazy "reporter". He is a non-factor with the Bills and he should be a non factor with the Bonnies.
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Post by woof on Jun 16, 2005 12:07:37 GMT -5
Chuck Pollock has not had an original article on the Bills ever in my memory.  No point in debating someone whose mind is not only closed, but padlocked. Have a nice day, and Go Bonnies. |
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Post by bulldogbrower on Jun 16, 2005 13:18:13 GMT -5
Enough said...Season ticket holder AND "reads" the newspaper. How can you argue with those credentials!
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