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Post by bonaman54 on Sept 12, 2009 14:13:14 GMT -5
I think we could have at least 5 guys who could ave. 10-18 pts. per game, Nicholson, roseboro, Hall, Matthews & Leonard. I don't think that Eleby or Ogo need to ave. double digits, as long as they can cut down on the TO's and run the offense effectively we should have plenty of fire power. Opposing D's won't be able to double team andrew, because of Brett, Marquise, LLeonard & others. We have more depth than ever before, which I hope means a successful season and possible NIT at least.
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Post by house on Sept 12, 2009 17:58:06 GMT -5
oh, its fun to predict lineups and stats, fun to just talk Bonnie's basketball again....i predict Johnathan and andrew to lead us in scoring, i also think mathews may have a good year, like one other post said, he did sit out the year before last..that may be cause for some of the inconsistency.....i cant wait to see who steps up from the rest of the potential group of guys...Leonard?..Roseboro?...Simmons?..Davenport..?...i think its gonna be alot of fun....i feel the ship turning...........
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Post by adolphlottin on Sept 12, 2009 19:01:50 GMT -5
I'd bet the house and everything in it that Roseboro will not average double figures this season.
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Post by b4life on Sept 14, 2009 8:30:19 GMT -5
I'd bet the house and everything in it that Roseboro will not average double figures this season. Agree. We were spoiled with Nicholson last year. I don't expect Roseboro to be a star right away. I do think he will help out a lot though. |
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Post by GoPadres on Sept 14, 2009 11:09:58 GMT -5
I am expecting 6 points and 5 rebounds from Roseboro this season. He really doesn't need to be a scorer with the depth this team possesses. I think the bulk of the scoring will come from Hall, Nicholson, Matthews and Leonard.
Davenport could also be in that mix and I expect a lot more consistency from him in terms of production this season. Would not be surprised to see him average 8-10 points and 4-5 rebounds in his sophomore season.
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Post by keplerjd on Sept 14, 2009 11:12:21 GMT -5
I'd bet the house and everything in it that Roseboro will not average double figures this season. I'm not so sure you should be all in with this bet. Consider the fact that Roseboro is basically taking the role that Mo had last year, and while he doesn't possess the kill kill kill attitude he does have a deep set of skills and will be playing with the benefit of the defensive focus turned towards Andy. We all remember the gaudy stats Mo put up despite seeing criminally-low playing time. He has a legitimate jump shot, much like Mo had and he, from what we've heard, doesn't have a personality nearly as robust as Thomas infamously had. If he can adapt to Schmidt's up-tempo system he could be a real dark horse in this offense. |
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Post by bona333 on Sept 15, 2009 18:42:37 GMT -5
I really don't think Matthew's will be one of our leading scorers this year, unless somehow he is a lot more consistant. He is going to have a short leash this year with all of the talent we have, unlike last year when he was often given all game to find his stroke. He also may find himself competing with Davenport this year for playing time.
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Post by adolphlottin on Sept 15, 2009 19:35:41 GMT -5
I'd bet the house and everything in it that Roseboro will not average double figures this season. I'm not so sure you should be all in with this bet. Consider the fact that Roseboro is basically taking the role that Mo had last year, and while he doesn't possess the kill kill kill attitude he does have a deep set of skills and will be playing with the benefit of the defensive focus turned towards Andy. We all remember the gaudy stats Mo put up despite seeing criminally-low playing time. He has a legitimate jump shot, much like Mo had and he, from what we've heard, doesn't have a personality nearly as robust as Thomas infamously had. If he can adapt to Schmidt's up-tempo system he could be a real dark horse in this offense. I'm not downplaying the impact Roseboro might have. I just think that there's enough firepower on this team that his role won't be as a scorer. You can say with pretty good certainty that Nicholson, Hall and Mathews will avg. double figures. You can also expect increased scoring from Davenport and the pg position with the likely continued improvement of Eleby and addition of Ogo. Finally, Lew Leonard comes as a natural scorer. Averaged 25 ppg as a high schooler and at juco. That should hopefully translate into at least 9-11 ppg at A-10 level. All that, and how many freshmen average double figures in the A-10? It's rare. Only the very best can do it. I'm not ready to put Roseboro in that company yet. I agree with Padres - 6 pts and 5 rebs would be a great contribution from Roseboro as a freshman. |
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Post by Chuck on Sept 15, 2009 21:23:26 GMT -5
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Post by adolphlottin on Sept 15, 2009 21:38:56 GMT -5
Great research Chuck. And Lee wouldn't have averaged that much on even a decent team. Bona won two games his freshman year and its only considerable source or scoring came from Ahmad Smith and Wade Dunston, who didn't even play much the next year with additions of Relph and Hawkins.
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Post by Chuck on Sept 16, 2009 6:08:32 GMT -5
Except for Lanier and Price (freshmen could not play) and Harry Moore being a prop 48 (sat out freshman year for failing to get passing SAT score) historically Bonnies have only Andrew as a "big" freshman that could make an impact immediately. It shows the difficulty Bonas have in recruiting talented big men.
Big men for Bonnies need development, which I expect to be true of Brett. Brett could very well be another Michael Lee, who sees significant playing time, because of Bonnies lack of players at the 4 spot. Brett could very well become Bonnies 2nd highest scoring freshman "big" (scoring 7 points a game) but it would be a stretch expecting him to score double digits like Greese.
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Post by bakinour on Sept 16, 2009 6:41:52 GMT -5
wasn't essie hollis 6'6"?
i think he played as a freshman
how does he factor in?
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Post by LumsdnA10Academc98 on Sept 16, 2009 22:28:40 GMT -5
I'm not so sure you should be all in with this bet. Consider the fact that Roseboro is basically taking the role that Mo had last year, and while he doesn't possess the kill kill kill attitude he does have a deep set of skills and will be playing with the benefit of the defensive focus turned towards Andy. We all remember the gaudy stats Mo put up despite seeing criminally-low playing time. He has a legitimate jump shot, much like Mo had and he, from what we've heard, doesn't have a personality nearly as robust as Thomas infamously had. If he can adapt to Schmidt's up-tempo system he could be a real dark horse in this offense. I'm not downplaying the impact Roseboro might have. I just think that there's enough firepower on this team that his role won't be as a scorer. You can say with pretty good certainty that Nicholson, Hall and Mathews will avg. double figures. You can also expect increased scoring from Davenport and the pg position with the likely continued improvement of Eleby and addition of Ogo. Finally, Lew Leonard comes as a natural scorer. Averaged 25 ppg as a high schooler and at juco. That should hopefully translate into at least 9-11 ppg at A-10 level. All that, and how many freshmen average double figures in the A-10? It's rare. Only the very best can do it. I'm not ready to put Roseboro in that company yet. I agree with Padres - 6 pts and 5 rebs would be a great contribution from Roseboro as a freshman. Truly great research would have taken Chuck to Europe, where he would have found that Pete Van Paassen, whose bid at 1,000 was hampered by his foot injuries his senior year, averaged 4.2 points as a freshman, lest we forget Tobias Hauff's monster frosh campaign in '91. |
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Post by nycnycnyc on Sept 22, 2009 17:36:08 GMT -5
I was down at bonaventure this whole week (visiting alot of friends and faculty). I play basketball at bonas all the time and against the team all the time. I played against Roso this week and lets just say. he is not a protype 6'11 guy. I didn't guard him (obviously i'm only 6'0 and 175lbs) but my best friend did (6'5 245lbs) and he was pushing him around like a baby in the low post. One thing though, the kid has a nice jumper that even streched out to the three point line but if he is getting pushed around by my friend who could probably play d-3, then he can't play down low in the A-10. I realize now why marquette let him go. I hope we can use his shooting ability though
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Post by keplerjd on Sept 22, 2009 17:57:18 GMT -5
You're right, this kid's a bum. I say we cut him now before the season starts.
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