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Post by pete on Feb 4, 2006 16:03:47 GMT -5
Lummy
I couldn't agree with you more. In my opinion, we are a better team on paper than we are on the court. I think, IMO, that we lose 10+ points a game because of being outcoached.
I hope there are better days ahead
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BonniesFan
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Post by BonniesFan on Feb 4, 2006 16:04:59 GMT -5
It's hard to get a good feel either way for a player when he is averaging 2.4 mpg (before today). He is a young player who until proven otherwise can't be ruled out of the future. And very undersized? He's 6 foot 7, 205 and is listed as a G/F. Not sure how much bigger you want him to be. Going by that, Ahmad and A.J. must be midgets. By undersized, I meant his build, not his height. Also, the roster heights and weights are never right, they always list people bigger than they actually are. There's no way he's 205. Mike Lee is listed as 195, is more of a PF than Tyler, and is developing fine. We haven't seen enough of Benson to really judge either way.
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Post by orangehater on Feb 4, 2006 16:21:11 GMT -5
Another telltale sign of coaching proficiency is steady improvement throughout the year. Other teams build on early successes or learn from early failures. We have gotten nothing but worse. Sol had a great idea in restoring the Reilly by scheduling early victories, and how did we follow up on it? By letting every team pass us by and then some. What I am trying to fathom is the downside of a new coach, other than it somehow makes it look to some people like we didnt commit eternally to the "savior" who came here when no-one else would.
I think the half-mil is compensation enough
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Post by rimRocka44 on Feb 4, 2006 16:40:28 GMT -5
All I wanted was a pony. How about Bobby Huggins!
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Bona3550
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Post by Bona3550 on Feb 4, 2006 17:01:12 GMT -5
I don't want to continue to live through another DeCarli era. Yeah, that would be a tough one to swallow....13 wins in his last two seasons....With the inability to recruit his last two years because everyone knew he was a lame duck coach. Sol couldn't recruit at first because of the sanctions, and DeCarli couldn't recruit the last two years of his tenure because of sanctions (lack of contract renewal) by SBU. Like it or not Bonaventure fans, I believe DeCarli takes a bum rap every time his name is brought up. At least he won some games. I would be more than satisfied with 13 wins this year....Hopefully Sol can continue to improve, and get things back on track....Hopefully.
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Post by bona89 on Feb 4, 2006 19:53:52 GMT -5
Wow, I would not have believed that Coach DeCarli's teams won 13 games if I had not looked it up myself. I remember the time, and it was hard to find good things about the play of the teams back then. I remember believing we had talent that was much better than our results.
It was a very frustrating period. Our expectations were obviously quite a bit higher then because everyone was calling for DeCarli's head and he was winning 13 games. Today a 13 win season could result in a lifetime extension.
DeCarli was a great guy, I interacted with him personally on more than a couple of occassions, but during games I regularly felt we had been outcoached again. That's how it feels again today.
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Post by magnusbu on Feb 4, 2006 20:53:07 GMT -5
As far as Benson goes, I like him as a player based on what I have seen from him early in the season. He has Basketball smarts that not many others on this team have. But he also needs time to adjust to A10 ball just like Hawkins does.
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Post by sbuSTUDent2005 on Feb 4, 2006 21:08:44 GMT -5
As far as Benson goes, I like him as a player based on what I have seen from him early in the season. He has Basketball smarts that not many others on this team have. But he also needs time to adjust to A10 ball just like Hawkins does. I'll reiterate my previous comment and say, what are you basing this on? He's barely played and even when he does he looks nervous and lost.
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Post by bonafide on Feb 4, 2006 22:26:07 GMT -5
In my book, it doesn't matter who wins the race as much as where the runners started from. SBU and Coach Solomon started 100 miles back of every other team because of the scandal, sanctions, etc.,etc.. It will take AT LEAST 2 more seasons before the basketball program is back on any sort of track. Coach Solomon is the head coach now and must remain the head coach throughout the rebuilding process. It wouldn't suprise me that after his work is done at SBU that Coach Solomon doesn't move on to greener pastures of his own volition.
Someone else posted that we'll all be seeing Slo' as the head coach of a team in the NCAA tournament 5 years from now. If he elects to stay, I have every confidence that March Madness team will be St. Bonaventure University.
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Bona3550
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Post by Bona3550 on Feb 4, 2006 23:18:52 GMT -5
Wow, I would not have believed that Coach DeCarli's teams won 13 games if I had not looked it up myself. DeCarli was a great guy, I interacted with him personally on more than a couple of occassions, but during games I regularly felt we had been outcoached again. That's how it feels again today. And I agree with your feelings about getting outcoached. I just think Ron wasn't given a fair chance, and it bothers me that whenever posters talk about the worst times at SBU, his name pops up. Hell, look how many years they gave Jim Baron to build the program. In my opinion, the program started going down hill during the last couple years of Jim O'brien. Remember in the 84-85 season when the fans were upset about Bonas having the first losing season since the 46-47 season? It's all about perspective.....I'd be more than happy with a .500 season at this point.
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Post by sbu83 on Feb 6, 2006 11:53:44 GMT -5
How aboout one of the assistants from St. Joe's? they have been together as a staff for a while - play great ball. Keep in mind, it will take at least two more sorry seasons like this one to bag Slo - so think ahead a few years; Brian Nash? He would have a few seasons as a head coach at St. Francis(NY). Ideally one good season there (ala Baron at SF-PA), and some nice NYC recruiting connections would make him an ideal choice, besides the link to Bonas as an Assistant on the NCAA team, he married Larry's daughter! Garland Mance?Garland has boucned around as an assistant. Would have to prove he is head coach material somewhere first? Dennis Wolfe? Former Bona assistant under O'Brien, great success at Boston U. as a head coach. Obviously a great bench coach. Could he recruit A-10 caliber players here? Joe Mihalich? Former long-time LaSalle assistant, current head coach at Niagara. Took them to 'the show'. Again, great bench coach, can he recruit A-10 caliber players? Also, note: LaSalle passed him by this past off-season. Pat Clarke? Let's not waste our time. After that, it is off into the world of mid to major school assistants - from which Slo was picked. Slo's selection mirrors Gregg Williams selection as head coach of the Bills. Bills could have had Marvin Lewis or John Fox, and instead were blown away by a great interview from Williams. He proved he isn't a head coach. Apparently, the wonderful search committee decided Slo's interview put him over the top of Nash, Mance, Hopkins, Daugherty, and Kareem! (that one would have been a joke, but interesting none the less!) My vote? Nash. Let's get the bumper stickers going - 'Nash for SBU in 2008!'
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Post by tomgleason on Feb 6, 2006 12:23:45 GMT -5
Ok, so you all think we need a new coach. I agree, IF we can lure one of the following to Bona's, Otherwise shut up and let Solomon have 2 more years.
1. Coach K from Duke 2. John Cheney 3. Larry Brown 4. Rick Pitino 5. Roy Williams 6. Billy Tubbs 7. John Wooden OR 8. Adolph Rupp
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Post by Phantom on Feb 6, 2006 12:40:06 GMT -5
Anyone of those guys would make a great story, but bringing Adolph back from the dead, now that is a story!
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Post by mikenice on Feb 6, 2006 12:48:48 GMT -5
Yeah, because Sol is in that next tier of coaches I've aske this before in response to the whole: "Solomon moving on to greener pastures, taking a team to the Dance, etc." Please enlighten me to what it is you've seen that justifies those comments. Is it the great 1-down, four-out offense he featured against St. Joe's? Or the great head and ball fakes every single player does as soon as he catches the ball? Anyone else notice Lee morphing into Lottin last game? Every time he caught the ball he made an over-dramatic head fake and drove to the whole. At one point he did that and he was wide open.
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Post by magnusbu on Feb 6, 2006 12:57:26 GMT -5
I guess I'll have to go into details about "basketball smarts" for you sbuSTUDent2005. Someone who is basketball smart finds the ball on rebounds, figures out how to get that loose ball, insticts put him in the right spot on defense and also the right spot on offense. Actually just watch Mike Gansey play and you will see one of the smartest basketball players in the nation. What a player lacks physically talent wise he can make up with basketball smarts. Oh and this is not something that you can really develop, its more like a 6th sense. From the limited time that Benson has been on the floor, I have seen some of this. Give him time to adjust to this level of basketball and you will see more of this. You see nervous and lost. I see potential.
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