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Post by Roger Dorn on Aug 24, 2007 15:34:30 GMT -5
;)I heard the staff is very actively pursuing one other possibility and maybe another for the last scholarship. If neither pans out I would imagine they would save it. TAYLOR sounds like a player but my concern with him is his age, is he a 20 or 21 year-old freshman? If he is a 21 year old freshman he will be very popular is shay-lo! ;D
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Post by bigdobber on Aug 24, 2007 17:22:56 GMT -5
I am sure Watson and Schmidt have covered the situation. If the kid can get his diploma and have a good career for 4 years this could be a great find. There are plenty of alternative schools around that have kids who become successful and productive. People on this board need to have an open mind. Do you know what kind of schools still exist in the inner cities around this country and what is going on in the suburbs. Does anyone remember Columbine in Colorado. Let the staff do the evaluating with the admissions people.
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Post by wgt on Aug 24, 2007 21:07:36 GMT -5
Good points bigdobber. Lutheran Christian has certainly been on the radar as a very questionable “school” for several years. Having years of experience working with Bronx HS youth I recognize that such a “school” can serve a useful purpose for some real good kids that just can’t handle academics. I hope that Maurice Thomas is one of those real good kids. Welcome to Bona “Greese” and hit the weight room.
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Post by ceharv on Aug 24, 2007 22:08:36 GMT -5
wgt - I hope you're right, but the question is whether it's a school or not - the only teacher has no teaching experience, and he runs the place and can't name all the others on his "staff" of part timers? Frankly I didn't know the part about the higher the GPA, the lower the SAT needed - is this place handing out high grades so guys can qualify with low SATs? That's sure what's being suggested in the article, including by other coaches and former "students." I hope I'm proven wrong and we rehabilitate 2 or more young men, but until then I'm just really uncomfortable seeing Bonas affiliated with this situation.
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Post by deuce on Aug 24, 2007 22:27:42 GMT -5
Rehabilitate? Either you're a complete idiot or you made a really bad choice of words - get a grip for pete's sake!
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Post by LumsdnA10Academc98 on Aug 25, 2007 4:41:56 GMT -5
I thought Philly Lutheran sounded familiar. It's where Maurice Rice "schooled."
I normally wouldn't mind taking a chance on a questionable kid, but given our past, I'm not sure 21-year-old freshmen from one of the most renowned fake schools nationwide should be on our radar. However, it makes me feel slightly better that other A-10 schools were ready to chance on Taylor, and I trust in Watson and Schmidt to cross the T's and dot the I's. If Taylor can stay eligible, we have a talented four-year player. If not, we get the scholarship back next year. Let's hope it's that simple.
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Post by bigdobber on Aug 25, 2007 5:48:18 GMT -5
ceharv-why are you assuming that any of these kids need rehabilitation. There are kids who graduated from all the ivy leagues that were home schooled. With your kind of thinkiing, alot of these kids should never have gotten the chance to attend. The public education in this country is so varied that I would not draw any conclusions about any kid coming out of any school. He is getting an opportunity for a degree and for a basketball career. As far as the age goes, there is some guy who is playing football for a D2 program at the age of 50 something and he is a national news item.
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Post by jh on Aug 25, 2007 8:34:25 GMT -5
ceharv - why do you think its appropriate to speak publicly about any incoming frosh's grades or academic standing This is how you welcome kids to campus "let me see your transcript' That is the NCAA clearinghouse's job - NOT YOURS. You must be in total bewilderment on how Chris Matthews possibly could have stayed eligible at a Pac10 school like Washington State for 2 years ?? I don't think anyone on this board would have wanted their academic standings questioned as a frosh in such a public forum. Let the NCAA Clearinghouse do their job - which they have done.
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Post by locke on Aug 25, 2007 9:51:13 GMT -5
"I don't think anyone on this board would have wanted their academic standings questioned as a frosh in such a public forum"
Many of us would not have wanted our academic standings questioned at any point in our Bona careers!!!!
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Post by run49er on Aug 25, 2007 16:26:35 GMT -5
FWIW, Charlotte 49er 2006 signee Phil Jones attended Philly Lutheran and was declared ineligible by the NCAA last season. He enrolled and paid his own way at UNCC in 06-07 and is now on scholarship with the Niners.
BTW, Jones and 2006 URI signee Delroy James attended Laurinburg Prep in 2005-06 and since both were declared ineligible last season, it's still unclear whether the problem was Philly Lutheran, Laurinburg, or a combination of both (although I'm pretty sure James did not attend Lutheran).
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Post by efsboca on Aug 25, 2007 17:54:00 GMT -5
While Philly Lutheran has been under watch the past couple of years, Matthews and Thomas have no worries as the are transfers, and in the article you cited ceharv, I thought I read Taylor saying that he had passed his classes at Woodrow Wilson or whatever High School it was he went to. Conjecture then maybe that he needed to get his SAT up or just wanted to try to get back into the school thing since he has been out for a while. Either way, I have to think that with what put us into this funk Watson and Schmidt are going to be more than cautious in ensuring it doesn't happen again.
That said, you have to feel good about next year. We lose Relph and Lee as key cogs, but will pick up Matthews and Thomas, and Taylor was described in one article I read as a DC basketball legend. That was the same article that described the praise Matthews parents were throwing on him for working with him and helping him improve his game. Sounds like a guy that just wants to get an education to move on, but also someone who can help this team with his own skills, but also with his leadership in helping others improve. I found a couple of boxscores from his HS days and the guy can apparently light it up. If anything, he had a little too much of a gunners mentality, but he is older and maybe more controlled.
One things for sure, they better add Philly Cheesesteaks as a menu option in Hickey, because this team will definitely have a Philly flavor.
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Post by Chuck on Aug 26, 2007 7:51:33 GMT -5
Is it Lutheran Christian or Delonte's public school that should be blamed. In the article it stated the following: Taylor said he had a 3.66 GPA at H.D. Woodson, but didn't earn a qualifying score on standardized tests. Taylor said Lutheran Christian has helped him prepare to take the tests. "The experience is great," Taylor said. "Basketball-wise, it's a lot more advanced than the D.C. public schools. The schoolwork is, too." Delonte must have earned a qualifying score and it is clear Lutheran Christian and not his high school was responsible for his passing. In another article (link at the bottom) Chris Matthews states "felt he was well prepared for the scholastic rigors of college by the attention and tutelage provided him by that school’s head coach, Darryl Schofield." Like Delonte, Chris went to Lutheran Christian because he had quailifying issues after graduating from high school. Lutheran Christian helped Chris to qualify and earn a 2.8 GPA during his freshman year at Washington State. Have to like the quote in the article, which calls Delonte Taylor a "high school hoops legend." www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20matthews%20summer%2006%20-%20pg%202.html
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Post by sbu83 on Aug 26, 2007 8:58:24 GMT -5
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Post by sbu83 on Aug 26, 2007 9:41:12 GMT -5
Another article on Lutheran Christian Academy. 'Inactiviated' by the NCAA Clearinghouse! Again, we now have three players on our roster from this place - conveniently LCA is not listed as teir High School on the Bonnies website. Is this another short-term fix mess we are getting ourselves into? Two of the three are transfers who were playing at their other schools and then decided to transfer to SBU, this doesn't sound funny to anyone? The other is a 20-21 year old freshman? www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/02/AR2006060201579.html
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Post by towniegrad on Aug 26, 2007 10:48:17 GMT -5
Interesting article in one of the recent Si 's about the sports program at I believe Montana state in bozeman montana..concerns the problems associated with recruiting inner city player sto a small rural town and the resulting problems including drugdealing and murder. Very instructive for all those who think a quick fix is possible and desirable.Better to start an engineering school.
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