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Post by bjif on Aug 9, 2009 9:32:00 GMT -5
:(I know that this will probably catch heat from some of the "hard liners", but in a way, it is indirectly related to recruiting the entire student population and not just basketball.
The recent addition of Forbes magazine has a list of the "Best Colleges in America". The evaluation criteria was based on; 1. Graduation Rate 2. National & Global Awards won by both students and faculty. 3. Student satisfaction with instructors 4. Average debt post graduation 5. Post graduate vocational success as measured by recent grads average starting salaries and alumni achievement.
I'm not sure how they came up with that criteria, but it is supposedly data available from publicly available sources lending to objectivity instead of the subjective biased reports obtained from the schools themselves.
The point being, and I read the list three times, there was no listing of St. Bonaventure. What was most disturbing was the inclusion of a large segment of no name schools who allegedly met the criteria.
For summer discussion purposes, I am interested in what you think about this, why aren't we filling some of these criteria goals, does anyone at the University care about this, and what do you think the impact is to overall recruitment of students.
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Post by diehard on Aug 9, 2009 12:13:06 GMT -5
I did the same thing and was surprised at some of the schools listed but not Bona's. Perhaps with the cut backs and financial hunkering down, the Administration did not participate i.e. fill out the required paperwork.
In keeping with its Franciscan heritage, I know that SBU has never been much of an elitist institution, but I would have hoped that SBU would have been included on a list like that.
Another unfortunate fact is that upstate NY is just not what it used to be. After a business trip to Buffalo, I was very unimpressed with the people I met and what I saw up there. Where have all the smart, young, well-grounded kids from upstate NY gone? Probably places like Washington DC, Atlanta and Charlotte.
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Post by bonaman2013 on Aug 9, 2009 15:05:55 GMT -5
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Post by donniesbu82 on Aug 12, 2009 6:49:41 GMT -5
I realize that Bonas is not an elitist school in keeping with the Franciscan heritage, however why does our sister Franciscan college seem to be doing so much better in academic standings then we are?
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Post by bonnieball on Aug 12, 2009 7:11:26 GMT -5
I realize that Bonas is not an elitist school in keeping with the Franciscan heritage, however why does our sister Franciscan college seem to be doing so much better in academic standings then we are? Admission standards. They have them.
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Post by diehard on Aug 12, 2009 8:30:26 GMT -5
Geography has to be play a big part of it too. Olean is not a growing, prosperous area. How far is the closest decent shopping mall from Olean? It seems like the University has tried to detach itself from the local area i.e. they have added lots of things to the campus so that students do not need to go off campus for very much.
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Post by maplehurst on Aug 12, 2009 11:16:40 GMT -5
The closest decent shopping center to Olean is in Grove City, PA. Soccer teams regularly stop there on their way from Duquesne to Bonas, or vice versa>
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Post by towniegrad on Aug 12, 2009 16:58:00 GMT -5
Well ,this is not much of a surprise. I get to see current students all year. Their behavior doesn't indicate serious educational interest. Bona is known mostly for...Basketball , though not lately.It is located here in Appalachia, not a plus. As for the school's involvement in the area,it really doesn't have significant resources or commitment.
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Post by pete on Aug 12, 2009 19:59:07 GMT -5
playing the devils advocate, SBU is one of the largest employers in a part of the state that 1/2 of state senators in albany cannot find. In addition, how many bars, shops, delis, etc would be around today if sbu did nor exist.
I do agree that colleges and universities should be used more as a platform for economic/workforce development. More can be done on that front.
On a personal note, i hope the 3 years i spent raising money as part of the K of C that went to local causes added something to the community when I was there
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Post by wgt on Aug 12, 2009 21:07:09 GMT -5
For many years Bona students have been involved in providing a wide range of services to their local community and beyond. Just some these initiatives are BonaResponds (locally painting at Olean Hospital, cleaning walking trails, building classrooms, painting local houses…), Bona Buddies (working with at risk youth), Bona Senior Buddies (being a companion to the elderly nuns in the Franciscan Home), The upcoming LiveStrong (Armstrong Foundation) on Oct 2nd & 3rd geared to assist local cancer survivors, assisting community in preparing their taxes. Providing a Girls Day for youth to learn more about computers. And of course the Bona “Warming House” is the oldest college student run “soup kitchen” in the nation serving meals 6 days a week to Olean residents.
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