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Post by fjs64 on Dec 15, 2009 22:52:01 GMT -5
Earlier this year there were comments regarding his two shoulder separations, and that he might need a medical redshirt year. I have not heard any recent references on that subject. I also read that we had until after the 9th game to declare this. We just played our 9th game. Does anyone know the status? I also remember reading that many schools that were recruiting him had suggested that he be redshirted his 1st year. He wanted to play and I assume those schools were crossed from his list. My thoughts: If his shoulder is weak, he would clearly benefit from a redshirt year. If he is OK, he would still benefit from being a redshirt, as he can practice with the team, build his strength, and have 4 full years of eligibility (same thing happened to David Capers). With the development of Marquise, and House coming back from mono, the redshirt would be possible, although the team would be weaker and have less options. What are your thoughts? ??
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Post by LumsdnA10Academc98 on Dec 16, 2009 1:13:18 GMT -5
First, I'd like proof that we have nine games to decide this. The rule, if I'm not mistaken, used to be 20 percent of a team's games.
Second, not that Roseboro has been of huge impact, but that would leave us pretty thin up front. Simmons has come on as of late, but at the end of the day, he's only 6-8, 210. That's not A-10 size. House had a way to go before he could be counted on, and that was before mono. Cook has been solid in spurts but lacks Brett's upside and scoring capability.
I'd hate to go into A-10 play any thinner up front than we already are. I'd be shocked if we even can redshirt Roseboro and further surprised if we did.
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jacob
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Post by jacob on Dec 16, 2009 8:38:58 GMT -5
Can we give the kid a break? Message Board anonymity is not always a good thing. Saying things like "he is the dumbest player on the team" really serves no purpose. I really think that some people need to examine their own lives before they make comments like this. How would you like to be scrutinized like these kids are as 18-22 year olds? I will speak for myself personally that I was glad I wasn't. I did a lot of stupid things. I think there is a fine line on this board and a post like this definitely crosses it.
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Post by robfal18 on Dec 16, 2009 9:27:47 GMT -5
Personally, I think Brett has played fine. When he is on the floor he plays hard and aggressive. He isn't afraid to bang inside and get some rebounds. For what he is asked to do, he is doing well. You can't expect every freshmen to contribute like Andrew did.
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Post by orangehater on Dec 16, 2009 9:36:51 GMT -5
Typical pattern...overhype the freshman before he gets here, get let down when he doesnt play like a blue chip. Brett will be just fine. If you want to redshirt someone (if you even have the option), redshirt the guy who hasnt played at all and will take the rest of the season to put back on the 25 pounds.
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Post by lazer on Dec 16, 2009 11:34:19 GMT -5
Why can't the careless post by lazer and others like it be screened and disallowed by the site's administrator(s)? I suggest deleting his post and references to it, including mine. johnson, You're right, and I deleted it myself. I had a long day with finals and studying and such and took it out in my post and I apologize to Brett and anyone else who had to read it.
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Post by wgt on Dec 16, 2009 11:51:07 GMT -5
Cook is certainly the bigger body but Simmons has been by far the bigger rebounder. Playing half the # of mins he has double Cook’s rebound #s. In fact, only Andrew has more rebs than Marquise, while he averages just over 8 mins a game. No surprise his teammates have christened him “Mad Dog” for the way he gets after the boards. He fouls far less & turns the ball over far less than Cook. Additionally, I definitely see more offensive upside to Simmons (even though presently struggling at the line) & his 3 blocks to zero by Cook shouldn’t be overlook.
I think the pressure of finals & the time consuming management of the “Points Game” played a role in Lazer’s uncharacteristic comment. Pleased to see the apology. All should be thankful for his work on the game.
I think that Brett will have a fine career at Bona but not Andrew like. Hard to compare many with The Professor.
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Post by bonniesareback on Dec 16, 2009 12:38:02 GMT -5
When I see Brett out there I see a younger Van Paasen. PVP was so raw his first two years, had a Division I power forward's body but really did not know how to use it or his skill set. Eventually, he turned out to be a great complement to Cyrus and a very good Atlantic 10 player his senior year. I see that happening with Brett and Andrew, and hopefully even sooner than PVP and Cyrus.
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Post by room109 on Dec 16, 2009 13:43:48 GMT -5
wgt - Cooks and Simmons are great pieces in the Bona puzzle. They both are needed and fit into the mix, its just that coach needs to figure out where they fit in and when to use them. Not just how to get the most minutes out of them.
Now throw in Brett and Jake. There would be nothing better that I would like to see than those two going in and pounding bodies under the boards, a lot of pushing and shoving just to soften up the visitors for Andrew and Hall to work their magic.
I would love to see a five man rotation! Schmitty has too much talent to let "sit the bench" all game long.
GO BROWN INDIANS
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Post by Chuck on Dec 16, 2009 17:48:47 GMT -5
Lums is correct, a player must play less than 20% of games for a medical red shirt, which is less than 6 games. Brett can't be red shirted. Here are the freshman stats of PVP, Caswell, Marquise and Brett: ................................ Minutes ppg..................Points ppg............. Rebounds ppg. PVP.................................19.8.............................4.9............................4.3 Caswell............................14.7.............................3.9............................3.7 Marquise........................... 9.6............................ 3.8........................... 3.0 Brett.................................8.1............................ 1.1........................... 1.0 Marquise compares very well with Caswell, especially considering he is playing 5 minutes less a game. Brett's stats are significant worse. It is way too early to give up on Brett. He is a 6'10" post player with decent skills. He is not an Orion Garo, Kuba, or my personal favorite Barry Atkinson. Brett needs time for developing. Marquise on the other hand has been productive in his limited playing time. PVP had more than twice as much playing time than Marquise, but his stats are only slightly better. As the stats reveal, Marquise' potential is more apparent and appears to have a promising future. Then again it is very early in their collegiate careers and it is probably a mistake to assume much from these stats. Only accurate assumption is right now Marquise has the edge . statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/st-bonaventure/peter-van-paassenstatsheet.com/mcb/players/player/st-bonaventure/caswell-cyruswww.gobonnies.com/sports/m-baskbl/2009-10/files/teamcume.htm
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Post by B02 on Dec 16, 2009 17:59:47 GMT -5
Marquise and Cyrus are completely different players. Cyrus was much more athletic while Marquise is more of a PVP guy.
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Post by Chuck on Dec 16, 2009 18:18:47 GMT -5
Marquise and Cyrus are completely different players. Cyrus was much more athletic while Marquise is more of a PVP guy. I think Brett is a much better comparison to PVP than Marquise. You are right Marquise does not have Caswell athleticism, but he is more athletic than PVP. Difficult to find a former Bonnie that is a good comparison to Marquise. Best I can think of is a slightly more athletic Greese, but significantly less rugged. Marquise has a much better shot than Greese.
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