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Post by no1stunna on Dec 22, 2009 19:24:59 GMT -5
Can anyone who listened to WPIG's broadcast or was there live comment on the officiating?
The officials were Joe DeMayo, Willie Pulliam and Gene Steratore, two of which have been bashed on the Bandwagon in the past. Just wondering how those two did.
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Post by brownindian11 on Dec 22, 2009 19:38:44 GMT -5
Im listening and Andrew came out with 10 pts and 4 boards with just over 6 minutes and got whistled for 2 quick ones and has been out since. Coach wasnt happy as he was giving the refs an earful according to the announcers on the foul calls i think team fouls are pretty close maybe niagra with a slight edge so far. I knew the bonnies have 7. Niagra must be close.
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Post by sbualumnus2005 on Dec 22, 2009 21:16:07 GMT -5
Can anyone who listened to WPIG's broadcast or was there live comment on the officiating? The officials were Joe DeMayo, Willie Pulliam and Gene Steratore, two of which have been bashed on the Bandwagon in the past. Just wondering how those two did. How'd they do? Ask nicholson how they did.
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Post by pepp on Dec 22, 2009 23:28:43 GMT -5
Every loss always has some alleged officiating conspiracy. If I didn't know any better you'd think the refs are conspiring against the program to keep them from becoming relevant again. It's not just this year either, it's been a constant notion on this board for a few years now.
It used to be the A-10 refs determined who wins each game based on league preference (which I'm sure will come up once league play starts and SBU loses a close game to one of the "preferred" schools). This year we've got into the act early and are proclaiming injustices in the non-conference schedule.
How about better shot selection, play D with your feet not your arms, and don't turn the ball over so much. I don't think the refs are influencing bad decisions and lazy effort on D.
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Post by bonaman2013 on Dec 22, 2009 23:54:38 GMT -5
Up by 19 and blew it. It wasn't the refs fault, it was the brown and white's fault.
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Post by capamerica on Dec 23, 2009 0:46:43 GMT -5
As someone who was there ....The officiating was HORRIBLE especially in the second half. Every little touch from the Bonnies was called and very little was called on the Eagles. Given that though the beginning of the second half was incredibly slopping by the Bonnies. Poor shot selection and bad passing. 2 points in about 8 minutes. Just horrible. This team is incredibly different without Nicholson in the line-up. Schmitdt held him out too long in the second half. I hate playing these MAAC teams. The refs just don't allow the physical play that the A-10 or bigger leagues allow. If this had been at the RC it would have been a 20 point win.
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Post by avonfan on Dec 23, 2009 1:18:47 GMT -5
I was at the game and yes the officiating was horrible, especially on Andrew. The first 2 fouls were bad assumptions on the refs part. The first was a stuff so clean that Andrew actually came down with the ball in one hand and then looked around incredulously once the whistle sounded. His third foul, very, very early in the second half might have been legit, but the fourth was another phantom foul. I feel for the kid. He clearly was the best player on any court in Western New York and all of us were deprived of seeing him play his game. I sat next to a Niagara fan and he said the officiating was terrible. (I do have some thoughts on Coach though - over to the other thread.)
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Post by triple302 on Dec 23, 2009 7:15:08 GMT -5
I am not disputing that the calls were bad. I wasn't there and you guys were. I am sure it was awful. But, I am getting a little concerned that we seem to have this same conversation about Andrew and terrible officiating and phantom foul calls almost every other game. Is it something he is doing? Do the refs not like his body language after calls? Is he getting a reputation? Does he just not know defense well enough yet to avoid getting fouls called on him? I don't know, but this trend of him getting cheap fouls and getting pulled for huge portions of games is getting old.
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Post by B02 on Dec 23, 2009 7:19:14 GMT -5
This is why the coaching staff can't be content with just him as a go to big man. If Roseboro or Simmons are expected to be complementary pieces, the staff has to acquire a scoring big man to off-set some of the foul trouble Nicholson gets into.
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Post by sony on Dec 23, 2009 17:33:25 GMT -5
For those who habitually say we're getting jobbed, particularly as it pertains to #44 - please stop and take an objective breath. #44 fouls were all legit and happened because he makes bad decisions. The blocked shot refered to earlier was the easiest call of the four fouls. He did have the block clean at the apex but then he proceeded to "macho" the rejection by coming down and he clobbered the guy. The Brown & White are better but not yet a good team.
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Post by 304dev on Dec 23, 2009 21:54:16 GMT -5
I was there. The officiating was mediocre for both sides...the three officials were hacks and at least one (who appeared to tbe the lead official) ought to hang it up asap. Andrew needs to play smarter. These officials had quick whistles and he didn't adjust to the tone and tempo of their game. He has only himself to blame. He sticks out like a sore thumb and it's only natural the officials, especially the three hacks assigned to last night's game, are going to whistle him for the slightest transgression.
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Post by longislandbonnie on Dec 24, 2009 6:19:50 GMT -5
I looked up their stats, and here's my read on the referee matter: Willlie Pulliam: Rated a 1-star referee; works only 5 or 6 games every year; must be a sub that was called in at the last minute (a hack) Joe DeMayo: Called "Oompa-Loompa" by student sections because of his fake orange tan inb the middle of winter; works 65 + games every year(very high amount); rated a 2-star ref; should have retired a few years ago; past it; he was the lead official for this game (a hack) Gene Steratore: Works a limited NCAA Basketball schedule due to the fact that he is also a highly rated NFL referee and Crew Chief; averages 32 NCAA games a year; mostly after the NFL season is over; a top notch referee in both sports and a receives a 4-star rating from NCAA coaches (definitely NOT a hack) (info from statsheet.com/)
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Post by Jimmy Chitwood on Dec 24, 2009 12:43:16 GMT -5
#44 fouls were all legit and happened because he makes bad decisions. The blocked shot refered to earlier was the easiest call of the four fouls. He did have the block clean at the apex but then he proceeded to "macho" the rejection by coming down and he clobbered the guy. The Brown & White are better but not yet a good team. The foul you refer to above was so ridiculous that Ref Seratore approached the Prof at the free throw lane and said, "It was a good block." I was sitting in the front right on that baseline. I literally heard him say it. Having said that, I agree that whining about fouls is really not the issue. The Prof needs to adjust to the manner in which the game is being called. He simply needs to play smarter.
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Post by keplerjd on Dec 24, 2009 14:17:12 GMT -5
DeMayo can rot in hell, every game he's officiates is like playing 5v6.
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Post by sneakers on Dec 24, 2009 14:20:54 GMT -5
The foul you refer to above was so ridiculous that Ref Seratore approached the Prof at the free throw lane and said, "It was a good block." I was sitting in the front right on that baseline. I literally heard him say it. Having said that, I agree that whining about fouls is really not the issue. The Prof needs to adjust to the manner in which the game is being called. He simply needs to play smarter. Your post is inconsistent. Do we want him to "play smarter" and not make good blocks because some knuckle-headed ref might blow him for a foul. If Seratore told him that it was a good block then he did play smart. He can't be expected to anticipate a blown call in advance. I think people on this Board would all be more upset if he simply stopped trying to block shots for fear of a whistle by a hack ref. Go for it Prof!
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