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Post by nyc02 on Mar 23, 2015 20:04:46 GMT -5
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Post by Sipowicz on Mar 23, 2015 20:19:41 GMT -5
Isn't there an A10 stipulation that a transfer inside the conference must sit for 2 years?
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Post by fjs64 on Mar 23, 2015 20:48:34 GMT -5
Isn't there an A10 stipulation that a transfer inside the conference must sit for 2 years? Sip, you are correct there is a 2 year rule within the conference.....but this situation could be unique. Usually when there is a coaching change, the NCAA has been waiving the sit one year rule when a kid transfers......don't know what the A10 does in this situation. It is important to note that whoever the new coach will be, will try to do the sell job to keep all the kids. That's why they better hurry
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Post by hnk373431 on Mar 23, 2015 21:39:02 GMT -5
A10 does have a 2 year ineligibility rule for transfers within the conference. In addition NCAA has dropped the hardship waiver for transfers. All transfers will need to sit out a year other than graduating seniors with eligibility attending grad school. Also Included in that legislation was also an allowance for a 6th year eligibility for red shirts.
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Post by wgt on Mar 23, 2015 21:57:12 GMT -5
Glad to see fired coach Tom Pecora on the Bruce Beck "Sports Final" show last night doing commentary.
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Post by Bona84 on Mar 24, 2015 6:29:01 GMT -5
According to the A-10 board, Eric's father apparently submitted a list to Fordham of schools that previously were involved in Eric's recruiting. Fordham granted approval for them to speak with those schools, but Fordham is still in the running, as the Paschalls will speak with the new coach. I imagine that Bona's is not on that list.
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Post by B02 on Mar 24, 2015 13:23:49 GMT -5
No kid is going to transfer to a school to sit out 2 years. End of discussion.
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Post by bigdobber on Mar 26, 2015 6:43:18 GMT -5
The Fordham board is really giving it to Bona alumn Mike Vaccarro who has put himself right in the middle of their coaching change. Pecora's record was not much better than Coach Sol's so after five years I would think any program would be pushing towards a change. I have often heard that the A10 is constantly working with the members regarding upgrading facilities and raising standards. Would love to be a fly on the wall when Fordham's Rose Hill Gym is discussed. The Big East would give them an ultimatum and that would be it. I think Dayton must be on the Big East radar big time. Great arena which sells out, natural Ohio rivalry with X and their success makes it a no brainer. A10 probably has their list and I would love to see another NYC area program get the call. Hofstra would be a good fit for the A10 in my opinion. Long Island was once a big draw for students so a regular scheduled game on Long Island would help with student recruiting. It's located within twenty minutes of seven thriving Catholic high schools with Kellenberg directly across from the Hofstra campus. (Chaminade, Kellenberg, St. Mary's of Manhasset, St. John's, St. Dominics, St. Anthony's, and Holy Trinity). If Bonas ever offered a D1 lacrosse program they would be knocking the doors down to get in.
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Post by nyc02 on Mar 26, 2015 22:45:46 GMT -5
Thank You, as I did not know about that in conference 2 year rule. Will be interesting where he lands.
bigdobber... I cannot agree with you more. Hofstra would be perfect for so many reasons, but it would especially help Bonaventure with recruiting, name recognition down in NY Metro, and alumni / fans coming out to support Bonas, but esp with the focus to recruit more students with the amount of Catholic schools in the area its a recruiting dream and admissions could work with athletics to show perspective students the passion by alumni and have a 101 on Bonas followed by a b-ball game.
As for Lacrosse I also cannot agree more. We need to find a way to have a men's program as it can help further our reach in several ways. To start something like this we truly need more alumni giving back to assist with funding.
Go Bonas!
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Post by bbb on Mar 27, 2015 4:22:40 GMT -5
Wouldn't it just be 20 or so lacrosse players knocking down the doors?
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Post by dadster81 on Mar 27, 2015 5:02:31 GMT -5
BBB - probably off a little - could be as many as 40 or 50 (explained in a second) but will be more than that. Lax is the fastest growing sport in HS and colleges, is exciting to watch especially live, and in comparison to baseball, can be played in almost any weather condition and has a time limit. I think it would be a great spring sport, and would have better attendance than all of our other spring sports combined,
I think it would be closer to 50 kids. Not that this many are carried on a team, but a lot of kids would come to school to try out as walk ons. If they do not make the team, they can continue playing club at the school. It would be a great addition - except for the cost , we would have to cut another sport, and the A10 does not have a league. As the joke goes, "besides that, how did you like the play, Mrs. Lincoln?"
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Post by Pinnum on Mar 27, 2015 7:58:32 GMT -5
It would likely be about ten or 15 a year in new students. Some would transfer out after they didn't get to play, some would make the team and play, and others would not play but stay at the school.
As said many times on this board, the investment is not worth the minimal growth for LAX especially with so many opportunities for kids to play. It would be better to use the money that it would cost for gear, coaches salaries, and travel/operating to hire more admissions people to spend more time in target areas.
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Post by jh on Mar 27, 2015 8:13:20 GMT -5
It would likely be about ten or 15 a year in new students. Some would transfer out after they didn't get to play, some would make the team and play, and others would not play but stay at the school. As said many times on this board, the investment is not worth the minimal growth for LAX especially with so many opportunities for kids to play. It would be better to use the money that it would cost for gear, coaches salaries, and travel/operating to hire more admissions people to spend more time in target areas. Offer it as non-scholarship sport? Now you get near 40 kids attending/paying tuition who otherwise would not attend sbu... then you add their friend or family member who see the campus and attend as well
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Post by Pinnum on Mar 27, 2015 8:20:16 GMT -5
It would likely be about ten or 15 a year in new students. Some would transfer out after they didn't get to play, some would make the team and play, and others would not play but stay at the school. As said many times on this board, the investment is not worth the minimal growth for LAX especially with so many opportunities for kids to play. It would be better to use the money that it would cost for gear, coaches salaries, and travel/operating to hire more admissions people to spend more time in target areas. Offer it as non-scholarship sport? Now you get near 40 kids attending/paying tuition who otherwise would not attend sbu... then you add their friend or family member who see the campus and attend as well You would have to be non-scholarship since most sports (outside of basketball) at SBU are already nearly non-scholarship. Then you will not only be recruiting against D1 and D2 programs but also against D3 and NJCAA programs. You will not win games--the Womens LAX season from last year or Mens soccer season from this fall will be more of the norm. How much will that do to attract people to be interested in the LAX program or school? When you get into that situation you end up losing recruiting battles to D3 schools. A recruit could go to SBU and take a bunch of losses as a D1 player or they could go to a D3 school like Nazareth and play for one of the better teams in the country (for the division) and potentially make the National tournament and maybe be recognized as all-conference. Same kid with the same talent level being offered two very different opportunities to experience college sports due to the schedules they play. If you're not going to go into it expecting to be able to compete then it is just a desperate ploy to get people interested in the school that is not viable long term. Most college students do not play sports and even fewer are male Lax players. You want to invest in things that strengthen the school overall and can be beneficial for the whole student body.
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Post by Pinnum on Mar 27, 2015 8:23:02 GMT -5
Also, even if it was non-scholarship you will be spending at least $250,000 a year to operate the program. The question is, could you use that money to hire some more people for admissions, or invest in more advertising and outreach programs, that would yield ten to twenty more students (male and female) that are interested in what SBU already offers? If you can, then spending the money to launch a program would not be a wise use of resources.
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