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Post by sneakers on May 27, 2015 15:58:34 GMT -5
The Univerrsity's Board of Trustees would be negligent not to discuss the cost of staying in D1 giving the decreased enrollment and financial concerns. I understand there were meetings held on campus recently where Board representatives met with faculty, staff etc., to let them know that the athletic program was studied and a hard look was taken as to whether D1 was feasible for such a small school, and that at the conclusion of that study a decision was made to stay committed to D1 and the Atlantic 10 and redouble the efforts to use that to market and promote the University. I am happy that it was discussed and studied. At some point if enrollment gets low enough staying in D1 would be simply unaffordable. This fact should spur all us fans to increase our support of the University both in terms of dollars as well as trying to get more students interested in attending the best University in the world!
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Post by bbb on May 27, 2015 18:30:07 GMT -5
Bona can probably hold on in the a10 but it is still back in the sticks.. Academically there is nothing cutting edge. Demographics are challenging d1,d2,d3. Not a factor to more than half of prospective studentsGood. We'll get the other half.
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Post by thesenator on May 27, 2015 20:11:27 GMT -5
The Univerrsity's Board of Trustees would be negligent not to discuss the cost of staying in D1 giving the decreased enrollment and financial concerns. I understand there were meetings held on campus recently where Board representatives met with faculty, staff etc., to let them know that the athletic program was studied and a hard look was taken as to whether D1 was feasible for such a small school, and that at the conclusion of that study a decision was made to stay committed to D1 and the Atlantic 10 and redouble the efforts to use that to market and promote the University. I am happy that it was discussed and studied. At some point if enrollment gets low enough staying in D1 would be simply unaffordable. This fact should spur all us fans to increase our support of the University both in terms of dollars as well as trying to get more students interested in attending the best University in the world! and this is as good a spot as any to propose any specific ideas (inside or outside the box) to generate dollars for the university and/or spur an increase in student enrollment...and for those who read this board but don't post-don't be bashful!...the idea/s you propose may help our school...and for those who read this board and may be in a position to bring about the kind of change/s that will benefit our school-listen up!...good ideas are proposed here from time to time...take the time to find them!...
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Post by nyc02 on May 27, 2015 21:29:11 GMT -5
We need every single alumni, parent of alumni, supporters of Bonas to continue to give what they can to Bonas.
Its vital to keep moving forward as we continue to recruit students as we need to encourage Bonaventure to every high school student that might to Take The Good Journey...
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Post by localfan on May 27, 2015 21:34:43 GMT -5
Count me in the camp that says athletics shouldn't be discussed as a scapegoat for admission problems at the university. Admission problems should be addressed by creating more desirable programs and majors and making sure tuition and room/board is competitive with universities that have a similar acceptance rate.
Can we all accept the fact that people are seriously contemplating whether or not we should consider moving to a lower division because a graduating student wrote his senior thesis on the topic? Welcome to the offseason, I guess.
In the meantime, we'll continue competing (rather well, I'd add) in the Atlantic 10, and reaping the many benefits that come along with being a Division 1 athletics institution.
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Post by DoyleBonas on May 28, 2015 1:22:36 GMT -5
Bonaventure has a better chance of joining the AFC East than Division II. Bona's dropping to D-II would kill the university and do serious damage to Cattaraugus County's economy and perception. No one is actually considering this other than a couple outlier professors, who even pop up every now and then at schools way bigger than SBU.
I'd much rather hear about how we should prepare for the hopefully inevitable day where D-I basketball players are paid. That's a price tag SBU will have to pay if it wants to exist as a university decades from now.
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Post by RochesterBonnie on May 28, 2015 7:23:06 GMT -5
Bonaventure has a better chance of joining the AFC East than Division II. Bona's dropping to D-II would kill the university and do serious damage to Cattaraugus County's economy and perception. No one is actually considering this other than a couple outlier professors, who even pop up every now and then at schools way bigger than SBU. I'd much rather hear about how we should prepare for the hopefully inevitable day where D-I basketball players are paid. That's a price tag SBU will have to pay if it wants to exist as a university decades from now. Funny you should mention that this comes up at bigger schools. When looking for the story on Bona playing at SU on Syracuse.com, there was a story about an SU prof who wants the University to drop football and basketball.
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Post by sony on May 28, 2015 8:01:23 GMT -5
One of the schools biggest challnges has to be discussed - not individually, such as D-1 vs. admissions, but as a whole question of finances, is the faculty salaries. I don't know how many of posters have ever taken the opportunity to research the faculty salaries at Bona's, but I will tell you I was very surprised when I did and saw how low the compensation was there.
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Post by thesenator on May 28, 2015 8:20:06 GMT -5
One of the schools biggest challnges has to be discussed - not individually, such as D-1 vs. admissions, but as a whole question of finances, is the faculty salaries. I don't know how many of posters have ever taken the opportunity to research the faculty salaries at Bona's, but I will tell you I was very surprised when I did and saw how low the compensation was there. i've known about it for a number of years now as it was an issue when my oldest daughter went to bonas (she graduated in '10)...i suspect part of the backlash vs athletics we've been hearing about lately has to do with this...i don't know how we can raise salary for our profs, but i think it would be a good idea if all who are reading this drop a line of thanks to a particular prof/s who had a big impact in our lives...of course, if you're an old-timer like me and some of the others, most of our profs are departed so a little prayer for them would be appropriate...
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Post by thesenator on May 28, 2015 8:25:59 GMT -5
Bonaventure has a better chance of joining the AFC East than Division II. Bona's dropping to D-II would kill the university and do serious damage to Cattaraugus County's economy and perception. No one is actually considering this other than a couple outlier professors, who even pop up every now and then at schools way bigger than SBU. I'd much rather hear about how we should prepare for the hopefully inevitable day where D-I basketball players are paid. That's a price tag SBU will have to pay if it wants to exist as a university decades from now. hopefully, doyle, that day is far, far away because we don't have the money to pay d1 basketball players now...but you're right...it isn't too soon to start to prepare for it...let's hope we can get our financial house in order so that we can address this issue and all the other financial issues we're facing right now...
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Post by thesenator on May 28, 2015 8:32:50 GMT -5
Count me in the camp that says athletics shouldn't be discussed as a scapegoat for admission problems at the university. Admission problems should be addressed by creating more desirable programs and majors and making sure tuition and room/board is competitive with universities that have a similar acceptance rate. Can we all accept the fact that people are seriously contemplating whether or not we should consider moving to a lower division because a graduating student wrote his senior thesis on the topic? Welcome to the offseason, I guess. In the meantime, we'll continue competing (rather well, I'd add) in the Atlantic 10, and reaping the many benefits that come along with being a Division 1 athletics institution. ok all you current students and recent grads who read this board...here's a chance to speak up...what programs/majors do not/did not exist at bonas that you think would help grow the enrollment?...as an old-timer, i think gerontology would be a good addition as us baby boomers are now/becoming senior citizens...
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Post by Saulius Dumbliauskas on May 28, 2015 9:26:17 GMT -5
Count me in the camp that says athletics shouldn't be discussed as a scapegoat for admission problems at the university. Admission problems should be addressed by creating more desirable programs and majors and making sure tuition and room/board is competitive with universities that have a similar acceptance rate. Can we all accept the fact that people are seriously contemplating whether or not we should consider moving to a lower division because a graduating student wrote his senior thesis on the topic? Welcome to the offseason, I guess. In the meantime, we'll continue competing (rather well, I'd add) in the Atlantic 10, and reaping the many benefits that come along with being a Division 1 athletics institution. ok all you current students and recent grads who read this board...here's a chance to speak up...what programs/majors do not/did not exist at bonas that you think would help grow the enrollment?...as an old-timer, i think gerontology would be a good addition as us baby boomers are now/becoming senior citizens... I know this has been broached here before, but what about a Nursing program (or a 2+2 with an established program)? Nurses are in high demand and there is a perfectly good hospital right down the road.
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Post by class70 on May 28, 2015 9:44:06 GMT -5
Cyber security and criminal justice seem to be high growth fields. Does SBU offer anything along these lines?
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Post by fan4ever on May 28, 2015 11:33:32 GMT -5
Nursing, Physician Assistant, Pharmacy.....anything STEM career focused. Administration/Board needs to put an emphasis on BS degree programs leading to well-paid careers.
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Post by dadster81 on May 28, 2015 11:51:36 GMT -5
Adding to fan4ever comments, NYS is slowly moving to the requirement that a Registered Nurse will need a 4 year degree (right now you can be an RN with an associate degree). So it is a natural fit for our school - especially after the non-merger with Hilbert, another nursing school. Also, changes in health care industry is putting more emphasis on RNs, Therapy (4 year degrees): and PAs, Pharm and Nurse Practitioner, which are all 5 plus year degrees. A lot of Rochester/Buffalo kids who want PA or NP look into Pennsylvania since there are not a lot of choices in NY outside of immediate Buff/Rochester area (for those kids who want to be away from home). With Bona's Bio and Chem major background, we already have a lot of the basic courses needed for these programs. Would be adding upper level courses and clinicals. And as fan4ever stated, these jobs starting pay are all good, and can easily be six figures after a couple of years.
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