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Post by rf1 on Aug 26, 2015 14:41:26 GMT -5
Public colleges in New England have seen big drops in state financial assistance in the last decade. They are not as well supported as in other parts of the country.
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Post by pete on Aug 26, 2015 16:16:36 GMT -5
over the last few years, more females than males are enrolled in higher education and that trend will likely continue. Is that something we can structure something around or just watch it blow by?
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Post by firstdev on Aug 26, 2015 20:19:13 GMT -5
TG has a problem......... he can not figure whether to continue to imbibe the TK cool aid, or stand up for the hard core student fans. But one thing is for sure, when they move the students out of the lower stands and into the top three rows of section 14 for "revenue enhancement purposes" of course, in order to further "program goals", he will be among the legion who will be weeping and crying out in outrage and asking about why someone didn't do something to prevent the transgression. Some folks just can not stand up in the crunch. Its crunch time, stand up and be counted like a true Bona man, for the students of this generation, or retreat to your bunker and wail like a banshee. Your choice. Come on Tom, join the movement.
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Post by tomgleason on Aug 26, 2015 21:39:01 GMT -5
Dude, just chill and see what happens...you are not the decision maker on this topic, nor am I...I, however, am reasonsble enough to give change a chance. ..if it doesn't work...then, yes, I'll change my tune...but it won't be wailing like a 2nd grade spoiled brat like some on here are right now
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Post by sneakers on Aug 27, 2015 9:16:46 GMT -5
TG has a problem......... he can not figure whether to continue to imbibe the TK cool aid, or stand up for the hard core student fans. But one thing is for sure, when they move the students out of the lower stands and into the top three rows of section 14 for "revenue enhancement purposes" of course, in order to further "program goals", he will be among the legion who will be weeping and crying out in outrage and asking about why someone didn't do something to prevent the transgression. Some folks just can not stand up in the crunch. Its crunch time, stand up and be counted like a true Bona man, for the students of this generation, or retreat to your bunker and wail like a banshee. Your choice. Come on Tom, join the movement. Seems to me that you are fighting a paper tiger. You are making huge assumptions of changes that you think could be made in the future (beefy pinkerton guards surrounding the student section, students in the top three rows only, etc.) instead of the changes that are actually being made. Tighten the tin foil hat before it falls off! I understand your recuitment efforts though as it seems that your group of torch and pitchfork-wielding crazies is down to a small handful of people (though those 3 or 4 people seem like more since they post on this board fairly often).
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Post by class70 on Aug 27, 2015 9:38:02 GMT -5
This will seem off-topic, but I don't believe it is. The Economic Policy Institute (fairly left leaning, but credible nonetheless) has computed the income needed to support a middle class family of 2 adults and 2 children in some 600 metropolitan areas across the country. Such families represent the bread and butter of Bona Nation, and they are having a tough time in our traditional target markets. To nobody's surprise, it's high in the NY metro area: $98,722, but places like Buffalo are no great deal either at $77,843 and my depressed hometown area in Utica-Rome is $83,109. Olean is considered "rural NY" and comes in at $77,698. In the Nashville area, where I live and consider the cost of living high, the figure is $54,389. I have not gone through the figures in detail, but I think it's safe to say that much of the difference is in the cost of government, including education. I don't want to get on my political soapbox, but I think you can see why I live in TN instead of NY, which I consider much more pleasant in many non-financial aspects of life. P.S. You can find your town here: www.epi.org/resources/budget/
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Post by sbu79 on Aug 27, 2015 9:53:06 GMT -5
... it seems that your group of torch and pitchfork-wielding crazies is down to a small handful of people (though those 3 or 4 people seem like more since they post on this board fairly often). Something about those posting makes it feel like fewer (actual) people to me.
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Post by bbb on Aug 27, 2015 16:50:07 GMT -5
How would the proposed "free college tuition" floated by Pres. Obama and championed by Bernie Sanders work? Would it be just at public colleges? Would we have to throw in the towel at that point?
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Post by bbb on Aug 27, 2015 17:31:09 GMT -5
Bona students seem to prefer living Indus I allegany to living on the beautiful bona campus.no rules. I haven't seen anything on this board about an issue that my nephew is more concerned about than losing his front row on the floor "seat" at the games. Apparently, at the end of last school year, they announced that nobody could move off campus until senior year. Is this true? He claims a lot of the students are outraged, including him.
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Post by thesenator on Aug 27, 2015 19:18:00 GMT -5
Bona students seem to prefer living Indus I allegany to living on the beautiful bona campus.no rules. I haven't seen anything on this board about an issue that my nephew is more concerned about than losing his front row on the floor "seat" at the games. Apparently, at the end of last school year, they announced that nobody could move off campus until senior year. Is this true? He claims a lot of the students are outraged, including him. it's true...this is the last year underclassmen can live off-campus...i can understand why some students would be upset, but i can also see the university, facing the financial troubles it's in, chose to take this course of action...the only way i see this changing anytime in the future is if there is a significant increase in student enrollment that would put the school on much stronger financial ground than it is now...
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Post by sbu79 on Aug 27, 2015 20:06:15 GMT -5
I haven't seen anything on this board about an issue that my nephew is more concerned about than losing his front row on the floor "seat" at the games. Apparently, at the end of last school year, they announced that nobody could move off campus until senior year. Is this true? He claims a lot of the students are outraged, including him. it's true...this is the last year underclassmen can live off-campus...i can understand why some students would be upset, but i can also see the university, facing the financial troubles it's in, chose to take this course of action...the only way i see this changing anytime in the future is if there is a significant increase in student enrollment that would put the school on much stronger financial ground than it is now... It's about time this administration took the long needed step of restoring the tradition of only allowing Seniors to live off campus. Can I assume students will again be restricted from "crossing the tracks" in Olean too?
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Post by towniegrad on Aug 27, 2015 20:53:58 GMT -5
Pretty sure students will be allowed to frequent the rite aid on the south side of the tracks; not sure about Bon ton jc Penney , and cvs on the north side.
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Post by bbb on Aug 28, 2015 3:50:37 GMT -5
it's true...this is the last year underclassmen can live off-campus...i can understand why some students would be upset, but i can also see the university, facing the financial troubles it's in, chose to take this course of action...the only way i see this changing anytime in the future is if there is a significant increase in student enrollment that would put the school on much stronger financial ground than it is now... It's about time this administration took the long needed step of restoring the tradition of only allowing Seniors to live off campus. Can I assume students will again be restricted from "crossing the tracks" in Olean too? When was this ever restricted? It seems strange - how do you classify a commuter?
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Post by Pinnum on Aug 28, 2015 7:38:14 GMT -5
It's about time this administration took the long needed step of restoring the tradition of only allowing Seniors to live off campus. Can I assume students will again be restricted from "crossing the tracks" in Olean too? When was this ever restricted? It seems strange - how do you classify a commuter? Most schools with this policy base commuting from the student's official permanent address. Typically they default to the address they used when they applied to the school while in high school and then the one they use for financial aid if there has been a significant move of the parents. Often there are distance restrictions too but that is typically for safety to prevent longer commutes while also helping to ensure the student assimilates to the campus community.
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Post by sony on Aug 28, 2015 8:23:07 GMT -5
WHen I was there late 60's into early 70's, only Seniors could live off campus. Don't know when it officially changed but might have been when the school needed to have people living off when Dev, Rob-Fal & Shay -Loghlin were full.
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