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Post by class70 on Mar 10, 2016 21:31:20 GMT -5
The vast majority of these cbb tv commentators just repeat the same ideas over and over. It was refreshing to hear Seth Greenberg today challenge the common opinion about strength of schedule. He said he gets tired of hearing about a team's non conference schedule when their overall schedule is what should matter. St. Bona and St. Joes are very close in overall sos. It only gets worse once they bring in Greg Anthony and Charles Barkley, who know as much about college basketball as I do about the history of Peru. I agree. What is so difficult to understand about the fact that strength of schedule is an inherent aspect of the RPI calculation? So is the location of the game. The whole idea of RPI is to provide a metric that is comparable across Division I schools. Granted, it's not a perfect stand-alone metric, but it doesn't enhance it to selectively report information already included while disregarding compensating information that also goes into the formula, e.g. the percentage of the games actually won.
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Post by Chuck on Mar 11, 2016 9:49:05 GMT -5
The vast majority of these cbb tv commentators just repeat the same ideas over and over. It was refreshing to hear Seth Greenberg today challenge the common opinion about strength of schedule. He said he gets tired of hearing about a team's non conference schedule when their overall schedule is what should matter. I agree. What is so difficult to understand about the fact that strength of schedule is an inherent aspect of the RPI calculation? So is the location of the game. The whole idea of RPI is to provide a metric that is comparable across Division I schools. Granted, it's not a perfect stand-alone metric, but it doesn't enhance it to selectively report information already included while disregarding compensating information that also goes into the formula, e.g. the percentage of the games actually won. Solid post Class 70. The problem with non-conference SOS is Bonas can't get a Power 5 school to come to Reilly Center. It now can't even get them to come to Rochester. Only way Bona can get them on the schedule is to play at their place, like Syracuse. Where the game is played makes a big difference, I think if Syracuse game would have been played in Reilly Center, we might have seen a big upset. The commentators fail to consider this when they say Bonnies do not have any quality wins in their OOC schedule. I agree with Seth Greenberg it does not matter if the top 50 win is in the conference or non-conference schedule. I think it is wrong the Bonnies are considered behind Michigan (current RPI of 62), because the commentators would point out they have 3 Power 5 wins while the Bonnies have none. Well Michigan is just 3-9 against RPIs top 50, while the Bonnies are 3-2. You are not going to find a commentator who thinks Bonnies have a a better profile than Michigan and unfortunately I do not think the NCAA committee thinks so either. What the above shows is the RPI is much better than relying on the experts judgement. Bonnies deserve a bid ahead of Michigan, because it is the record against top 50 that should matter and not whether the wins were against Power 5 schools. warrennolan.com/basketball/2016/nitty-live
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Post by Can't Keep us Down - Bona4Life on Mar 11, 2016 10:03:34 GMT -5
Yahoo, ESPN & NCAA.com all have us at #25 RPI.
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Post by agoo on Mar 11, 2016 10:15:25 GMT -5
Yahoo, ESPN & NCAA.com all have us at #25 RPI. The RPI formula doesn't change based on who is reporting it.
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Post by CoachSBU on Mar 11, 2016 11:59:08 GMT -5
Yahoo, ESPN & NCAA.com all have us at #25 RPI. You might be a little out of touch with the RPI nuances, KCW, but I LOVE the moniker!! Go Bonas!!
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Post by Can't Keep us Down - Bona4Life on Mar 11, 2016 12:25:57 GMT -5
I realize they all should have us at the same RPI, however I have found them to vary sometimes. Maybe they just don't all get updated at once?
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Post by Can't Keep us Down - Bona4Life on Mar 11, 2016 12:26:41 GMT -5
Hahaha and thanks. Gotta keep chopping it. Tonight especially!
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Post by agoo on Mar 11, 2016 13:25:12 GMT -5
I realize they all should have us at the same RPI, however I have found them to vary sometimes. Maybe they just don't all get updated at once? This. At this point, they all should be updating regularly so there won't be variance like you've seen before.
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Post by class70 on Mar 11, 2016 18:44:18 GMT -5
According to Joe Castiglione, Chair of the Selection Committee, 33 of the 36 at-large bids have already been decided. That's what I heard him say on CBS' Inside College Basketball about 30 minutes ago. To make the next 48 hours go easy, I am going to assume the Bonnies are already in while I am enjoying the A10 tourney.
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Post by orangehater on Mar 11, 2016 19:52:53 GMT -5
What's interesting about that is he's saying that with this many games left to go, there aren't more than three possible bid stealers remaining. If there were there's no way he could guarantee those 33 teams. If my logic is sound that means we can't possibly be out if any one of those leagues has a champion already considered to be in the field, unless he's actually at THIS point considering us a bid stealer, in which case he'd be saying we are out even if we make the final. Do I get an A from Rod Hughes?
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Post by JC on Mar 11, 2016 20:00:25 GMT -5
An important point about Joe Castiglione's comment: I believe that 33 includes teams who could still win their conference tournament. So as long as their are no more bid stealers, that should mean another 6 at large spots open up. I heard him make that point yesterday, but he did not repeat it today on CBS. I knew right away people were going to start sweating after he said that.
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Post by class70 on Mar 11, 2016 20:37:26 GMT -5
Castiglione also stated that there are also 32 automatic qualifiers. He followed that by--and I believe these were his words--"so 65 of the 68 teams have been chosen." I interpreted that along the lines of what Orangehater stated above, i.e. they are leaving wiggle room for three possible bid stealers. I have now watched 9 non-Bona A10 games, run the Bona flag up my CP flagpole, and am well into the Molson icebreaker, so maybe I'm not thinking too clearly, but I say the Bonnies are in. Now let's whip Davidson and go on to the A10 semis. Go Bonnies!
Edit: Jerry Palm was sitting at the desk during this interview. I've got to believe that he got a wink and a nudge and knows who's still on the bubble. Pay attention to his bracket.
Edit #2 (after Davidson OT loss): Heartbreaking though it was, the Bonnies finish with RPI of 30 as I write. I'm sticking to my above story: Bonnies will dance.
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Post by 123Rob on Mar 11, 2016 23:49:20 GMT -5
We are in Very likely headed to Dayton but we are in.
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Post by JC on Mar 11, 2016 23:58:27 GMT -5
Yeah, if he said that, I got to believe we are in. Maybe it helped that we played the latest opening game of the week.
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Post by birdman on Mar 11, 2016 23:59:54 GMT -5
Tonight in brooklyn was awful.....as big a choke as I've seen in awhile. Praying for at large bid......oh boy.
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