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Post by old timer on Mar 13, 2016 20:22:47 GMT -5
Stop justifying - we got screwed - plain and simple, blah blah blah can't fix Mixhigan, Syracuse and Tulsa, no more comments on strength of schedule or whatever. Nothing will make the pain go away. Cassian is right. Play a stronger schedule. BS It's all about $$$$. I am sick. The NCAA is all about the money.
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Post by firstdev on Mar 13, 2016 20:31:49 GMT -5
Just got back from Brooklyn after a long train trip and drive....so here are my impressions: Why did the committee make us the first out? - You can complain all you want about our OOC, but that was a committee smokescreen, we were 3 - 1 vs the top teams, including beating NCAA bound St Joes (twice) and Dayton. They took seven teams from two power conferences, including Syracuse, which was completely undeserving a of bid. Our position was superior in everyway to the hated Syracuse. - Here is my own reasons why we are not in the Big Dance, when we should have been. + Horrible Officiating - we needed to win at least one game at our tournament and did not. The Davidson loss was largely, but not exclusively due to horrendous officiating. I can honestly state that I have not seen such a poorly officiated game in at least twenty years, maybe longer. Even the Davidson fans told me after the game that the officiating was just "unbelievable". We win the game, we dance. The officials dictated the game in the last ten minutes, calling touch fouls on Bonas, and letting Posley and Wright get hammered underneath without foul calls. Very disturbing. Hopefully the A10 does an after action report on this crew and sanctions them - they were bad. + OOC Losses - The losses to Siena and Hofstra were bad, very damaging, and had a huge impact with the committee. The loss at LaSalle was also damaging. + Injuries - Jay and Posley were hurting. Jay throughout the game (it looks like he bruised a rib on his right side), which caused him to be a non factor on offense. We needed him to be 100% and he was not. That is no reflection on his magnificent play all year long. This kid has big time game. This poor kid seems to be jinxed in the post season - last year the broken finger, this year his rib cage injury. Posley looked to injure his ankle not once but twice in the last ten minutes. Nonetheless he played an outstanding game, as did his fellow senior - Dion. What a pleasure to see these kids play, and luckily we will see them again on Wednesday vs. Wagner in the NIT. + Bona Crowd - It was just outstanding. We had the most fans in attendance without a doubt, and they were loud and incredibly supportive. McMahon's looked like the Burton East on homecoming weekend. Wow I could not have been prouder of the Bona fans. Time to turn lemons into lemonade! Beat Wagner!
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Post by ohs73 on Mar 13, 2016 20:41:42 GMT -5
This business of Tulsa last team in over Bona is about as corrupt as it gets.
I've lost respect for the NCAA. Sadly, and to add salt in the wound, the ladies will get the same shabby treatment Monday night.
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Post by bonaballa1 on Mar 13, 2016 20:54:00 GMT -5
If I had to point to 1 reason why Bonnies didn't get in, i go all the way back to Nov 17th. A win at the dome would've been the golden ticket.
That's why I'm not mad at Cuse getting in. Bona had their chance H2H. Up 6 at half.
My anger is directed towards TULSA. Can't figure the logic there. Memphis destroyed them by 22!
1 stat that should be mentioned more: Bonnies only lost 1 game this year by double digits (@ Cuse). They were in every single contest. Never blown out. Over the course of a 30 game season, that's pretty impressive.
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Post by Dunga on Mar 13, 2016 21:10:47 GMT -5
We need to make sure he hears it from the Bona world. These moves have consequences. Corrupt process. Dude we were on the bubble/ it burst. These things happen every year. This was the worst snub in the history of the tournament. Most bracketoligists (Palm, Dance Card) had us safely in (off the bubble). No one had Tulsa in. Not one bracketologist. 0. Did the committee think this would go unnoticed? According to Dance Card, St. Bonaventure is now the highest ranked team to ever miss the tournament (according to their amazingly accurate rankings). 2016: #34 St. Bonaventure www.unf.edu/~jcoleman/dance.htmprevious was 2015: #38 Temple www.unf.edu/~jcoleman/dance2015.htmLast team in: Tulsa RPI 58 1-1 top 25 4-5 top 50 8-8 top 100 Bracketologists had in: 0/80 Last team out: St. Bonaventure RPI 30 3-1 top 25 (two road wins, one neutral) 3-2 top 50 7-5 top 100 Bracketologists had in: 71/80 www.udpride.com/images/rpi.htmwww.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.htmlwww.bracketmatrix.com/This is the guy that screwed st. Bona: Joseph Robert Castiglione en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Castiglione_%28athletic_director%29 www.soonersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=31000&ATCLID=208409715twitter.com/soonerad
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Post by CoachSBU on Mar 13, 2016 21:16:16 GMT -5
If I had to point to 1 reason why Bonnies didn't get in, i go all the way back to Nov 17th. A win at the dome would've been the golden ticket. That's why I'm not mad at Cuse getting in. Bona had their chance H2H. Up 6 at half. My anger is directed towards TULSA. Can't figure the logic there. Memphis destroyed them by 22! 1 stat that should be mentioned more: Bonnies only lost 1 game this year by double digits (@ Cuse). They were in every single contest. Never blown out. Over the course of a 30 game season, that's pretty impressive. BS. Like I said before, even if we had beaten SU there, they would've found another reason to keep us out. Castiglione got interviewed by Katz on the ESPN braketology show and of course, there was always one reason why a team got left out and one reason why a team got included. For Syracuse? Oh. They beat Duke on the Blue Devils home floor. What about the ten other reasons to have them not be in? How about losing to St. John's who didn't have a win after that for 15 or so games? Politics at it's best!! ALL BS!!
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Post by Dunga on Mar 13, 2016 21:26:46 GMT -5
Just got back from Brooklyn after a long train trip and drive....so here are my impressions: Why did the committee make us the first out? - You can complain all you want about our OOC, but that was a committee smokescreen, we were 3 - 1 vs the top teams, including beating NCAA bound St Joes (twice) and Dayton. They took seven teams from two power conferences, including Syracuse, which was completely undeserving a of bid. Our position was superior in everyway to the hated Syracuse. - Here is my own reasons why we are not in the Big Dance, when we should have been. + Horrible Officiating - we needed to win at least one game at our tournament and did not. The Davidson loss was largely, but not exclusively due to horrendous officiating. I can honestly state that I have not seen such a poorly officiated game in at least twenty years, maybe longer. Even the Davidson fans told me after the game that the officiating was just "unbelievable". We win the game, we dance. The officials dictated the game in the last ten minutes, calling touch fouls on Bonas, and letting Posley and Wright get hammered underneath without foul calls. Very disturbing. Hopefully the A10 does an after action report on this crew and sanctions them - they were bad. + OOC Losses - The losses to Siena and Hofstra were bad, very damaging, and had a huge impact with the committee. The loss at LaSalle was also damaging. + Injuries - Jay and Posley were hurting. Jay throughout the game (it looks like he bruised a rib on his right side), which caused him to be a non factor on offense. We needed him to be 100% and he was not. That is no reflection on his magnificent play all year long. This kid has big time game. This poor kid seems to be jinxed in the post season - last year the broken finger, this year his rib cage injury. Posley looked to injure his ankle not once but twice in the last ten minutes. Nonetheless he played an outstanding game, as did his fellow senior - Dion. What a pleasure to see these kids play, and luckily we will see them again on Wednesday vs. Wagner in the NIT. + Bona Crowd - It was just outstanding. We had the most fans in attendance without a doubt, and they were loud and incredibly supportive. McMahon's looked like the Burton East on homecoming weekend. Wow I could not have been prouder of the Bona fans. Time to turn lemons into lemonade! Beat Wagner! Agreed. Though Hofstra was not a bad loss. They finished the season 54 RPI (surrounded by tournament teams Pitt 53, Butler 56, Michigan 57, Temple 59, Tulsa ... www.udpride.com/images/rpi.htm. Siena 104 wasn't so horrible in the end, would have been top 100 (if they hadn't lost in the final of their tourney). LaSalle and Duquesne were our worst losses.
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Post by bonaballa1 on Mar 13, 2016 21:34:16 GMT -5
Crazy part is, i don't even know if a Davidson win gets Bona in. VCU is a 10 seed. Probably would've needed to get to the final.
Immediately following the L Friday Night, in anger and spite - I said home Nit game should be fun. I referenced our OOC schedule. Let's keep it real. It wasn't good enough. Didn't leave the state of NY, and squanderd a golden opportunity @ Cuse. Losses to Hofstra + Siena were 2 more blemishes.
In conference is a different story. They did some serious heavy lifting. i can't mention the 2 wins st joes enough. Both were in impressive fashion. A beatdown at Hawk Hill and then Posley's 47 in Rochester. The road win @ Dayton. Beat GW. I don't know what more they could've done.
I guess that loss to Lasalle really was an atomic bomb. Losing @ VCU is another one that haunts me. Up 9 in 2nd half.
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Post by birdman on Mar 13, 2016 21:48:36 GMT -5
Bonaballa1 makes a great point. I don't think bona would get in even if bona beat Davidson. With this committee I bet they still would not get in which is a tragedy. Personally I feel the A 10 should sue!
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Post by midwestbonnie on Mar 13, 2016 21:56:38 GMT -5
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Post by dev351 on Mar 14, 2016 6:14:36 GMT -5
If anyone listens to morning men on mad dog radio they had a nice little treat listening me read our resume blindly to the guys. They couldn't believe it when I revealed who it was and the fact that we weren't in. I'm looking all over online but can't find a podcast or stream of it. If anyone can find it please post it....
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Post by labonniesfan on Mar 14, 2016 8:21:07 GMT -5
The a10 needs to schedule tougher....
Pac12 made sure that they did/ look what happened.
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Post by thebonafan08 on Mar 14, 2016 8:28:06 GMT -5
The a10 needs to schedule tougher.... Pac12 made sure that they did/ look what happened. I understand this argument but what can Bona do? No one will come to Olean or Rochester for that matter. No one wants us in an exempt tournament. The system is rigged against us. I suppose we can play as many games on the road as possibly win 17 out of 23 lets say and then ...oh wait Monmouth did that and look where they are.
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Post by labonniesfan on Mar 14, 2016 8:47:22 GMT -5
The a10 needs to schedule tougher.... Pac12 made sure that they did/ look what happened. I understand this argument but what can Bona do? No one will come to Olean or Rochester for that matter. No one wants us in an exempt tournament. The system is rigged against us. I suppose we can play as many games on the road as possibly win 17 out of 23 lets say and then ...oh wait Monmouth did that and look where they are. That isn't true... Monmouth did go out/ play the big boys..... the problem was the following: Gtwon/UCLA were down this year....../ even more so their conference is not good. SBU needs to go out and play bigger schools away. They have to do it.... This not only an SBU issue but an a10 issue.... the conference itself needs to schedule better. Its up to our AD/the coach to fix this problem. They need to push and push to play bigger. You can't continue to play one middle of the road power 5 and then the rest small level schools. I think we got screwed, but these things always happen.... You can't go back/ do the same thing/ hope for a different result... that is insane... you need to try to fix it up.... I am eager to see what the AD/Coach do about our scheduling.... Eliminate game like these.... Loyola - 257 RPI Binghampton - 301 RPI South Caroline State - 205 RPI We need to do this, but as I stated earlier its up to the a10 to follow and to improve on their scheduling... Look at the Pac 12.... great job of scheduling.... People were saying its good for Fordham to pile up wins.. helps the conference... sure, but not when the teams stink... it does nothing...
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Post by thesenator on Mar 14, 2016 8:48:41 GMT -5
Crazy part is, i don't even know if a Davidson win gets Bona in. VCU is a 10 seed. Probably would've needed to get to the final. Immediately following the L Friday Night, in anger and spite - I said home Nit game should be fun. I referenced our OOC schedule. Let's keep it real. It wasn't good enough. Didn't leave the state of NY, and squanderd a golden opportunity @ Cuse. Losses to Hofstra + Siena were 2 more blemishes. In conference is a different story. They did some serious heavy lifting. i can't mention the 2 wins st joes enough. Both were in impressive fashion. A beatdown at Hawk Hill and then Posley's 47 in Rochester. The road win @ Dayton. Beat GW. I don't know what more they could've done. I guess that loss to Lasalle really was an atomic bomb. Losing @ VCU is another one that haunts me. Up 9 in 2nd half. a while back i posted that i didn't think we would get into the ncaa tournament...at the time i was thinking the losses to siena and hofstra would hurt (you can't win a tournament bid in nov/dec but you can lose one)...this was before we had our fantastic end of the season run...i also thing the lasalle loss hurt and, as it turns out, it looks like we had to beat not only davidson but vcu, too...the lack of respect shown by the selection committee was also evident by the many networks i've watched...there's not a whole lot of air time devoted to us or the a-10...so we gotta understand that there's little/no margin for error for us if we ever want to get in the ncaa tournament...we gotta sweep our ooc sked unless we play a good power 5 school (or the cuse who don't qualify as good)...and we can't lose to anyone beneath us in the a-10...that's a hell of a lot of wood to chop but i don't see it working out any other way...
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