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Post by xraycat on Aug 6, 2006 16:55:27 GMT -5
Today on espn's the sports reporters; a weekly show that captures the recent week in sports with a pannel of sports writers, St. Bonaventure was mention, in not so many words......
Steven A. Smith was talking about the Oklahoma State U Football team, and the recent troubles with sports team at the college level.....he talked about OK U, as well as Ohio state.....then mentioned a college basketball team who paid their coach 2.2 million dollars for wrongly firing him due to court rullings and said...."thats when you know you really have problems"
At least he didnt mention the school.
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Post by Pinions on Aug 6, 2006 17:58:51 GMT -5
That was a reference to the recent Appeals Court decision that Ohio State had wrongfully terminated O'Brien as basketball coach and pay him $2.2 million with interest.
It was definitely not a reference to SBU - we never owed VBK that much under his contract and since his case was settled, thereis no appeal.
You should listen to what you hear first before starting this kind of baseless rumor.
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Post by B02 on Aug 6, 2006 21:35:05 GMT -5
There is a connection there between O'Brien used to coach at St. Bonaventure i believe. You are correct though in it was referenced to Jim O'Brien settlement that happened this week.
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Post by Eagle on Aug 6, 2006 21:54:56 GMT -5
Former Ohio State Coach Is Awarded $2.2 Million
Published: Wednesday, August 2, 2006
Ohio State must pay former basketball coach Jim O'Brien about $2.2 million plus interest for firing him for giving a recruit $6,000.
The 56-year-old O'Brien, who coached the Buckeyes for seven years, guided them to the Final Four in 1999. He was fired in June of 2004 after revealing to then-athletic director Andy Geiger that he had given the money to Serbian prospect Aleksandar Radojevic. He had sought $3.6 million in his lawsuit.
O'Brien charged that the university did not follow his contract in releasing him. Judge Joseph T. Clark agreed, ruling in February that O'Brien broke his contract by giving the money and failing to inform university officials, but the error was not serious enough to warrant firing. The university violated the contract by firing him without compensation, the ruling said.
In his ruling Wednesday, Clark said, "… this single, isolated failure of performance was not so egregious" to lead to O'Brien's firing under the lenient terms of his contract.
A subsequent investigation vacated that trip to the Final Four and found that O'Brien had violated NCAA bylaws. The sanctioning body of college sports put Ohio State on three years probation in March for violations that including those that occurred in the basketball program under O'Brien.
O'Brien had asked for reimbursement for his annual salary of $236,552, plus damages of $3.3 million. His contract specified he was due 3 1/2 times his base salary for the length of the time remaining on the agreement. He still had more than five years left on the contract.
The complete article is available at: Akron Beacon
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Post by DemBonnies on Aug 7, 2006 6:55:02 GMT -5
A subsequent investigation vacated that trip to the Final Four and found that O'Brien had violated NCAA bylaws. The sanctioning body of college sports put Ohio State on three years probation in March for violations that including those that occurred in the basketball program under O'Brien. Two Questions: First...pls explain "vacated"...I know this means that their place in the FF is supposedly null/void but on frequent trips to UMass I see them proudly display the Final Four Banner (1996), and John Calipari's bio on the Memphis Basketball website touts it as an accomplishment. Remember Marcus Camby had some eligibility issues from that season because of illegal contact with an sports agent his senior season. I am aware of only one other schools that has this same problem...Howard Porter with the 1971 Villanova Wildcats who also had prematurely signed with an agent, yet Villanova still list themselves for 1971 as a National runner-up on their site. So tell me how vacating their Final Four appearances has been enforced or is a black mark on the schools. Second: In 1968 St. Bonaventure "invited" a highly touted recruit (Tom Rikker I believe) to the NCAA FF that year (Cole Field House, Maryland maybe) and we were turned in (perhaps from old 'Nova & URI coach, Jack Kraft) to the NCAA and we were suspended from Tourney appearance for the 68/69 season but I don't think our tourney appearance in the FF was to be vacated...can anyone confirm this? |
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Post by Chaz on Aug 7, 2006 7:31:26 GMT -5
I think Tom Riker came to one of the 1968 tourney games as a guest of a alum , for recruiting purposes. We played BC,NC & Columbia but I'm not sure of the venue or which game. He was from Long Island I recall. Gusam do you know any further details ?
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Post by DemBonnies on Aug 7, 2006 8:10:13 GMT -5
I think Tom Riker came to one of the 1968 tourney games as a guest of a alum , for recruiting purposes. We played BC,NC & Columbia but I'm not sure of the venue or which game. He was from Long Island I recall. Gusam do you know any further details ? We played UNC in first game of the FF in 1968 and that loss scotched our perfect season (23-0 up to that point)and also lost the consolation game...I'm pretty sure the game Rikker attended was the first (UNC)...also I think he ended up playing for Frank McGuire at South Carolina after that debacle. Check that the FF was played at Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena according to Wikkipedia, so it must've been a regional game that Rikker attended. |
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Post by MIKE MACALUSO on Aug 7, 2006 11:12:10 GMT -5
Tom Riker was from st doms in oyster bay, LI. was a guest at the regional finals at columbia, SC [univ of South Carolina]. Ben Rusin [friend of SBU who did a ton of recruiting during the weise years] brought riker to SC. SC found out, turned in the brown indians and riker mysteriously ended up in columbia. Frank Maguire, the South Carolina coach ended up down there as he was in hock up to his eyeballs to the NYC bookies from his coaching/gambling days at st Johns. read the book, the wizard of odds which centers on Jack Molinas. talks about all of the stuff going on in the 1950s, 60, 70s in college hoops.maguire had an unbelieveable piple line from the nyc catholic leage...roche, riker, joyce, winters, dunleavy, giloon--it later came out that usc was paying some fancy $$ to get them to come down there. in 1968, the brown and white beat davidson, lost to unc and to columbia..that was the 23-1 [reg season team] i think the riker episode happened during laniers senior year when the team went to the final 4  |
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Post by DemBonnies on Aug 7, 2006 11:54:50 GMT -5
i think the riker episode happened during laniers senior year when the team went to the final 4 Club17-----I thought the suspension from the Riker tampering happened for Lanier's junior year (which was Sats' senior year. Kalbaugh and Lanier tried to hold the team together and make the season anything but a washout---think they won like 16/17 games that year |
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Post by Bona84 on Aug 7, 2006 11:57:05 GMT -5
The infraction did occur during '68, and it was the 68/69 season in which the Bonnies were on probation. I'm fuzzy on the details of what the infraction was, but it did have something to do with transportation costs for a potential recruit.
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Post by MIKE MACALUSO on Aug 7, 2006 12:59:45 GMT -5
dem...you are correct..lanier's junior year they went to the nit...that is when hoffie missed a couple of clutch free throws..they finished something like 17-7. a funny side story..i live in chicago..i was at a youth hoops game about 8 years ago when a kid was shooting 2 free throws after time expired in the first half [like hoffie at the end of the game] a woman says, i havent seen anything like this since paul hoffman was shooting on the court by himself in the nit...i almost fell out of my chair..turns out it was one of al annunziato's [of club 17 fame] daughters...she is married and lives out here also ! had a nice chat with her about that ! ;D
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Post by DemBonnies on Aug 7, 2006 13:31:11 GMT -5
dem...you are correct..lanier's junior year they went to the nit...that is when hoffie missed a couple of clutch free throws..they finished something like 17-7. a funny side story..i live in chicago..i was at a youth hoops game about 8 years ago when a kid was shooting 2 free throws after time expired in the first half [like hoffie at the end of the game] a woman says, i havent seen anything like this since paul hoffman was shooting on the court by himself in the nit...i almost fell out of my chair..turns out it was one of al annunziato's [of club 17 fame] daughters...she is married and lives out here also ! had a nice chat with her about that ! ;D Very small world---good story. I think Al's daughter graduated in my class '77. Side note-----was time expired at the end of the Kentucky game in 2000 for David Capers----if so why where players lined up. Back to my original question why does the NCAA allow supposedly "vacated" schools to market/advertise/extoll their Final Four participation when they have been blacklisted? |
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Post by 2nddev on Aug 7, 2006 13:35:54 GMT -5
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Post by DemBonnies on Aug 7, 2006 13:44:16 GMT -5
Agreed the NCAA suspension would've covered post season play....Hoffie's free throws occurred at the Garden in the 1970/71 season....Chaz...you should be all over this. |
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Post by sbu79 on Aug 7, 2006 14:02:11 GMT -5
If my memory is correct, there were 0.3 seconds on the clock for David Capers. And I remember the Hoffman incident in the NIT because my brother graduated in 70, and we watched that NIT final together. He was beside himself believing that Bonas was just plain jinxed.
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