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Post by agoo on Mar 27, 2021 7:31:24 GMT -5
On one side, the reality based among us who didn’t tweet that this virus would disappear in November can see community spread of a deadly disease. On the other side, there is still no proof of the sort of voter fraud that voter ID is allegedly intending to prevent. So your comparison is stupid.
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Post by tomgleason on Mar 27, 2021 7:55:33 GMT -5
On one side, the reality based among us who didn’t tweet that this virus would disappear in November can see community spread of a deadly disease. On the other side, there is still no proof of the sort of voter fraud that voter ID is allegedly intending to prevent. So your comparison is stupid. No, my point is that idiots in power say that it is racist and disenfranchising to require people to get IDs or Drivers Licenses in order to vote. So why is it not racist to force people to get IDs proving vaccination. The double standard hypocrisy must be solely reserved for the left.
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Post by agoo on Mar 27, 2021 8:01:48 GMT -5
On one side, the reality based among us who didn’t tweet that this virus would disappear in November can see community spread of a deadly disease. On the other side, there is still no proof of the sort of voter fraud that voter ID is allegedly intending to prevent. So your comparison is stupid. No, my point is that idiots in power say that it is racist and disenfranchising to require people to get IDs or Drivers Licenses in order to vote. So why is it not racist to force people to get IDs proving vaccination. The double standard hypocrisy must be solely reserved for the left. Is antivax a race? Is your argument really based on that?
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Post by tomgleason on Mar 27, 2021 8:35:51 GMT -5
No, my point is that idiots in power say that it is racist and disenfranchising to require people to get IDs or Drivers Licenses in order to vote. So why is it not racist to force people to get IDs proving vaccination. The double standard hypocrisy must be solely reserved for the left. Is antivax a race? Is your argument really based on that? No, it’s not...but the argument that minorities can’t get IDs in order to vote, should apply the same here, shouldn’t it? I mean, it WILL be an ID proving you were vaccinated.
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Post by agoo on Mar 27, 2021 9:33:03 GMT -5
Is antivax a race? Is your argument really based on that? No, it’s not...but the argument that minorities can’t get IDs in order to vote, should apply the same here, shouldn’t it? I mean, it WILL be an ID proving you were vaccinated. Is attendance at sporting events a fundamental right for Americans, like voting is? Or can private entities prohibit entry for people who can’t be bothered to do their part for public health? How about my right to attend public events without concern for the preventable spread of disease? Is that less important than your right to not give a shit about anyone other than yourself? Also, I appreciate that you admit that voter ID laws are specifically intended to disenfranchise people of color.
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Post by gregmitch70 on Mar 27, 2021 9:45:14 GMT -5
No, it’s not...but the argument that minorities can’t get IDs in order to vote, should apply the same here, shouldn’t it? I mean, it WILL be an ID proving you were vaccinated. Is attendance at sporting events a fundamental right for Americans, like voting is? Or can private entities prohibit entry for people who can’t be bothered to do their part for public health? How about my right to attend public events without concern for the preventable spread of disease? Is that less important than your right to not give a shit about anyone other than yourself? Also, I appreciate that you admit that voter ID laws are specifically intended to disenfranchise people of color. Yeah, and while we're at it, let's get rid of those DUI laws, which infringe on that great American freedom to go to a bar and drive home drunk.
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Post by agoo on Mar 27, 2021 9:46:56 GMT -5
Is attendance at sporting events a fundamental right for Americans, like voting is? Or can private entities prohibit entry for people who can’t be bothered to do their part for public health? How about my right to attend public events without concern for the preventable spread of disease? Is that less important than your right to not give a shit about anyone other than yourself? Also, I appreciate that you admit that voter ID laws are specifically intended to disenfranchise people of color. Yeah, and while we're at it, let's get rid of those DUI laws, which infringe on that great American freedom to go to a bar and drive home drunk. And bring back asbestos and led paint if I think that’s the best option for me. Gotta keep muh freedumbs.
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Post by tomgleason on Mar 27, 2021 14:12:37 GMT -5
No, it’s not...but the argument that minorities can’t get IDs in order to vote, should apply the same here, shouldn’t it? I mean, it WILL be an ID proving you were vaccinated. Is attendance at sporting events a fundamental right for Americans, like voting is? Or can private entities prohibit entry for people who can’t be bothered to do their part for public health? How about my right to attend public events without concern for the preventable spread of disease? Is that less important than your right to not give a shit about anyone other than yourself? Also, I appreciate that you admit that voter ID laws are specifically intended to disenfranchise people of color. Yes,Freedom of Assembly
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Post by agoo on Mar 27, 2021 18:23:58 GMT -5
Is attendance at sporting events a fundamental right for Americans, like voting is? Or can private entities prohibit entry for people who can’t be bothered to do their part for public health? How about my right to attend public events without concern for the preventable spread of disease? Is that less important than your right to not give a shit about anyone other than yourself? Also, I appreciate that you admit that voter ID laws are specifically intended to disenfranchise people of color. Yes,Freedom of Assembly Which you can do...as long as you meet the conditions in place for the location.
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Post by gregmitch70 on Mar 27, 2021 18:40:05 GMT -5
Which you can do...as long as you meet the conditions in place for the location. Plus there is never "freedom of assembly"...on private property. Hey, that's the American way, right?
Also note the "freedom of assembly" on the Capitol steps, January 6, and then inside the building.
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Post by tomgleason on Mar 27, 2021 18:40:46 GMT -5
Which you can do...as long as you meet the conditions in place for the location. Look man...both sides have valid points...just like our opinions
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Post by agoo on Mar 27, 2021 18:45:14 GMT -5
Which you can do...as long as you meet the conditions in place for the location. Look man...both sides have valid points...just like our opinions You’re arguing for the continued spread of disease, so not much validity to your arguments.
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Post by tomgleason on Mar 27, 2021 19:21:57 GMT -5
Look man...both sides have valid points...just like our opinions You’re arguing for the continued spread of disease, so not much validity to your arguments. That’s not what I’m arguing for, and you know it. I’ve worked the entire time in the retail business...coming in contact with hundreds of people daily...not a sniffle...although it has hit a bunch of people, including the University hard...still feel it’s overblown...my opinion, you don’t have to agree...I respect that...asking that you respect my opinion
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Post by agoo on Mar 28, 2021 7:38:05 GMT -5
You’re arguing for the continued spread of disease, so not much validity to your arguments. That’s not what I’m arguing for, and you know it. I’ve worked the entire time in the retail business...coming in contact with hundreds of people daily...not a sniffle...although it has hit a bunch of people, including the University hard...still feel it’s overblown...my opinion, you don’t have to agree...I respect that...asking that you respect my opinion Sorry for the delay in my response. I was trying to find someone who could support the premise that COVID is not overblown. I asked 544 thousand people and got no response. Turns out they were all already dead from covid. For opinions to be respected, they have to be respectable. This isn’t an argument about Schmidt’s bench use leading to transfers. It’s about life and death. You are making a pro-death argument. Additionally, you think it’s overblown because you haven’t had it. That is insulting to the dead, the sick, the recovered, and those who care about them. It’s also completely selfish. Try thinking about someone else at some point. It’s good for the world. So no, your opinion is awful and unworthy of respect. And people with your ignorance are the reason why we’re still in this mess.
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Post by gregmitch70 on Mar 28, 2021 8:59:26 GMT -5
That’s not what I’m arguing for, and you know it. I’ve worked the entire time in the retail business...coming in contact with hundreds of people daily...not a sniffle...although it has hit a bunch of people, including the University hard...still feel it’s overblown...my opinion, you don’t have to agree...I respect that...asking that you respect my opinion Sorry for the delay in my response. I was trying to find someone who could support the premise that COVID is not overblown. I asked 544 thousand people and got no response. Turns out they were all already dead from covid. For opinions to be respected, they have to be respectable. This isn’t an argument about Schmidt’s bench use leading to transfers. It’s about life and death. You are making a pro-death argument. Additionally, you think it’s overblown because you haven’t had it. That is insulting to the dead, the sick, the recovered, and those who care about them. It’s also completely selfish. Try thinking about someone else at some point. It’s good for the world. So no, your opinion is awful and unworthy of respect. And people with your ignorance are the reason why we’re still in this mess. Note also: cases are rising again in fully half of our 50 states despite vaccine success but as more people take attitude of "overblown" ....and massive surge in Europe now which always bounces back here...even in previously under control spots like Germany....it's far, far from over
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