Managing a roster with 11 starters

[fjs64]

Soon we will have 11 potential starters on our roster. What will happen? Well it happened before, and we did very well, the NCAA tournament was made.

So when was that? 2011/12

9 made it through the season healthy, so lets look at the 9 starters who played in the tournament, and then the injured 2.

At guard: Charlon Kloof, Eric Moseley, Jordan Gathers and Matthew Wright

At the 3: Demetrius Conger and Chis Johnson

At the 4: DaQuan Cook

At the 5: Andrew Nicholson and Youssou NDoye


The season started with 11 starters, Michael Davenport and Marquise Simmons, but the latter was injured the 1st game with a torn Achilles, and MD dislocated his shoulder around game 9. There was one other scholarship player, Jake Houseknecght

So what can you take from this:
1) Injuries will happen and more players the better. When Quice and MD got injured we could have easily thought our season was in jeopardy, well it wasn't.
2) The players melded very well, Gathers/Wright alternated starting, each adding a different dimension. Kloof/Mosely complemented each other very well. I remember Mosely scoring 39 points, althought it was the following season, and I bring that up because many may understate how good he was.
3) We could have used another PF, as Cook at times was over his head, and Simmons would have been good to come in off the bench.
4) Would Conger have developed so well if Davenport was still starting? Conger was better.

The point is that Schmidt has coached teams with a lot of good players, and we won. Our new team will blend, players will get time, and injuries will happen.

[bjif]

With this potential roster none of the starters should play more than 30 minutes. This gives a full 10 minutes of floor time to become acclimated to game conditions and Mark's playbook.We all realize that close games will happen, but the quality of this second unit is more likely to hold a lead than giving one up. This gets starters some breathing time and the floor time for the reserves is critical to the continuation of program development.It might just slow the run to the portal and I'm sure the staff has stressed in the recruiting process that the starting five is all returning. Just my thoughts.

[ohs73]

Except Kyle. He will get his usual supply.

[magnusbu]

Slow down a bit here. I like the signings, but not sure I would stamp 5 of them starter material right now.

Coulibaly probably the closest,
Brown maybe but need to see him against D1 talent.
Same with Duro.
Adam's same but also consider he didn't get much time on an ACC team we would have wiped the floor with.
Joryam probably would benefit from a year to develop and learn system but also wouldn't surprise me to see him get decent minutes.
JNT needs at least a year to develop.

On paper this is probably our best top to bottom class. Let's hope it translates on the court.

[thecoach]

May 2, 2021 21:07:34 GMT -5 magnusbu said:

Slow down a bit here. I like the signings, but not sure I would stamp 5 of them starter material right now.

Coulibaly probably the closest,
Brown maybe but need to see him against D1 talent.
Same with Duro.
Adam's same but also consider he didn't get much time on an ACC team we would have wiped the floor with.
Joryam probably would benefit from a year to develop and learn system but also wouldn't surprise me to see him get decent minutes.
JNT needs at least a year to develop.

On paper this is probably our best top to bottom class. Let's hope it translates on the court.

Exactly!!!! It sounds like we improved the roster but you don't know how any of these guys translate to the A-10 or Shmidt's system. The highest ever recruit Winston (4star) Couldn't really fit in the system. Also, look how many transfer every year. At most 3 of these new players will stick around most likely

[Chuck]

Schmidt’s best recruiting class was 2018 with Kyle, Osun and Dom. From their stats, press clippings, credentials and etc. the Bandwagon was calling them Schmidt’s best recruiting class. Turns out posters on the Bandwagon were correct. Looking at the same criteria, I think this recruiting class is comparable to the 2018 class. Following is a comparison of the stats, press clipping and credentials between the 2 classes as incoming freshmen.

Osun/Karim
— Osun was a low rated recruit until his MVP performance in the National Prep Championship. Osun received power 6 offers from Georgetown and Syracuse.
— Osun averaged 10 points a game. Putnam’s star recruit was Akok.
— Karim became a high rated recruit as one of the stars with Oumar Ballo on Mali’s national team. Scotland Campus was #1 prep team with Karim as their starting center. According to Rivals Karim received 12 Power 6 offers.
— Karim averaged 15.6 ppg and is Scotland Campus all time leading scorer.

Dom/Linton
— Dom was an ESPN 3 star recruit. Bona and UMass made offers. Rest of his offers were from low majors.
— Dom is all-time leading scorer in Western New York boys basketball history. Leading scorer for Spire Academy at 18 ppg. Led Spire to national prep school playoffs.
— Linton is not rated by any of the recruiting services. Received 4 mid major offers with Bona, New Mexico, Southern Miss and Western Kentucky.
— Linton is Indian River leading scorer at 18.4 ppg. Led his team to quarter finals of NCJAA tournament.

Kyle/Joryam
— Led Putnam to Championship of National Prep Tournament. Was not rated by recruiting services. Was ranked third in the state of Connecticut by New England Recruiting Report in the spring of 2018, which also named him one of 10 players in its 2017-18 All-New England first team. Bona and UMass made offers, rest are low majors.
— Average 10 ppg with Putnam.
— Joryam was a Rivals 3 star recruit. Mentioned as a possible Rivals Top 150. Received Power 6 offer from BC and mid major offer from Marshall.
— His high school stats have not been made public.

I find this recruiting class credentials matchup very well against Osun, Kyle and Dom’s class. Only time will tell if they become as successful.

[bostonbona]

Coach Schmidt deserves credit for assembling roster with better overall talent, but don’t overlook recruiting efforts of associate head coach Steve Curran and assistant coaches Sean Neal and Tray Woodall. Challenge ahead is for team to meet higher expectations and to remain focused. With improved talent, Schmidt needs to expand rotation. Player roles need to be defined. With better depth, we could play at a faster pace and not be as concerned with foul problems. Still hope to land athletic small forward.

[Cassian]

While exciting, 11 quality players is a relatively big problem unless coach can juggle and somehow keep everyone happy. My sense is that the newbies spend a year learning, those that prosper will be the stars the following year as the Iron 5 leave. Its a decent strategy but fraught with the theory that I want to play now. Seems stressful to me.

[fjs64]

Both Quadry and Duro in the gobonnies announcement seemed fine with learning from Kyle and Osun. So it seemed to me that Mark has been upfront with these kids, and playing second fiddle is ok with them, with future expectations.