Evans

[atlbonnie87]

Seems to be the love/hate guy around here. Prior to the year starting, I’ll admit that I didn’t think he’d have much of a role on the team this year and even feared he’d be a transfer candidate come the off-season. Like most of you, his severe limitations offensively were a chief concern. Clearly you couldn’t play him at the 3 over Pride, Flowers, etc. Then I also thought he lacked the upper body strength to play the 4. Maybe I’m overcompensating now, but I was completely wrong. He’s not only been my biggest surprise this year, but might even be the team’s most improved player (him or Venning). I wouldn’t bet that Barry will ever lead a Bona team in scoring during his time here, but an incredibly valuable piece — particularly for a team full of shooters. According to KenPom, look at these advanced numbers:

26.9% defensive rebound rate. That’s 24th in the country. That’s also the highest for any Bona player for as far back as KenPom data goes (01-02 season). Only Shoon (So-Jr seasons), Youssou (Sr season) and Andrew (Sr season) are even close to that percentage in our last 20 years.


4.1% steal rate. That’s 45th in the country. 1st for us.
3.5% block rate. 330 in NCAA, 2nd for us. (Venning)
9.8% O rebound rate. 246 in NCAA, 2nd for us behind Brown.
And an O rating of 125.4. 125 in NCAA

The O rating, admittedly, is a bit inflated because of the talent around him when he’s been on the floor. But it’s clear that his impact is being felt on that side of the ball as well, even though he can’t really be counted on to score.

This kid has to play more. I’m really excited to see him and Assa on the floor together next year, but until then, I’m hoping for more Evans than Assa at the 4.

[OceanStateBonnie]

Check out the plus/minus from the box score from last night. Barry’s was the highest.

[marylandbonnie1]

Barry has been a real revelation this year. I stated in another thread, that I think Barry had the 2nd best handle on team. But what I have been pleasantly surprised about is his well above average hops!! When he gets a couple of steps he really soars!

His shot is still a bit wanky but there is no denying he can play above the rim. To paraphrase DDMugs, they should be running that Adaway lob to him as much as they can. He has the tools to be an 8-10 ppg scorer if the right plays are for him.

[kccgold]

He's a dynamite player and very smart.

I honestly think they should consider having him bring it up the floor at times. When the opponent has big guards and they are running aggressive man defense (a la Fordham) that gives Adams-Woods and Luc fits, just let Barry bring it up and set the offense. He is bigger and has a good handle and high IQ

[atlbonnie87]

Jan 27, 2024 17:29:25 GMT -5 kccgold said:

He's a dynamite player and very smart.

I honestly think they should consider having him bring it up the floor at times. When the opponent has big guards and they are running aggressive man defense (a la Fordham) that gives Adams-Woods and Luc fits, just let Barry bring it up and set the offense. He is bigger and has a good handle and high IQ

I’m a little more concerned about his handle than others. However, this team needs to have more diverse options and this should be in the playbook for sure. At the end of the day, when you have 3 perimeter shooters at the 1-3 (typically 3 MAW, Banks, Pride, Flowers) this team needs a do-it-all type like Evans with them. Again, I love Assa and think he will be an all A10 player soon. But when he’s playing with 3 shooters, it just doesn’t work. Evans can do the role you’ve talked about as a change of pace.

[ddsmugs]

Evans also has a great feel of finding open 3 point shooters while advancing the ball. Just waiting for him to get to the rim for flushes after he pump fakes a three. Venning draws a lot of bodies in the paint ....a quick lob to rim for a flying Barry would open eyes.

[bonaballa1]

There’s no love/hate when it comes to Barry. It’s all love. If you understand the game of basketball, you know the value he brings. Barry is Idris Taqqee on steroids. Taller, faster, more athletic. We are a better team when he’s on the floor.

[bigcat]

So why isn’t Schmidt playing Barry 25-30 minutes each game? Why does Schmidt continually go back to Assa despite his slump and inconsistency? And why is Assa the only player who we run off screens to get an open look from deep?

That doesn’t happen for Pride or Mika or Moses who are our best deep shooters. They get their shots organically and not because our coach runs plays for them.

Plus those 3 guys also are playmakers if the play breaks down with the ball in their hands late in the possession.

Yes Assa is among our top rebounders but Evans could be a double-digit rebounder with closer to 30 mpg … much like 6-7 Enrique Freeman of Akron who leads the nation with 13 boards per game. Both have a nose for the ball, the ability to rise above other players, and create deflections/steals.

Too often we have too many streaky shooters on the floor at the same time and not enough athleticism. Once or twice this year I believe we played Assa and Evans together. Can’t recall if that was without Chad on the floor.

As others have said, Barry is our most improved player. His confidence is so much higher than last season. He is instant energy.

I know that Assa is NOT the same type of worthless, lazy, selfish guy like Winston was a few years back … but when Schmidt realized Adaway was clearly more athletic with a better upside than Winston the change was made. The result? The Bonnies became the best team in the A10.

Not sure that Barry needs to be a starter but he does need to play starter’s minutes if we are to be among the best team’s in the A10 this season.

[kccgold]

Jan 27, 2024 22:25:17 GMT -5 bigcat said:

So why isn’t Schmidt playing Barry 25-30 minutes each game? Why does Schmidt continually go back to Assa despite his slump and inconsistency? And why is Assa the only player who we run off screens to get an open look from deep?

That doesn’t happen for Pride or Mika or Moses who are our best deep shooters. They get their shots organically and not because our coach runs plays for them.

Plus those 3 guys also are playmakers if the play breaks down with the ball in their hands late in the possession.

Yes Assa is among our top rebounders but Evans could be a double-digit rebounder with closer to 30 mpg … much like 6-7 Enrique Freeman of Akron who leads the nation with 13 boards per game. Both have a nose for the ball, the ability to rise above other players, and create deflections/steals.

Too often we have too many streaky shooters on the floor at the same time and not enough athleticism. Once or twice this year I believe we played Assa and Evans together. Can’t recall if that was without Chad on the floor.

As others have said, Barry is our most improved player. His confidence is so much higher than last season. He is instant energy.

I know that Assa is NOT the same type of worthless, lazy, selfish guy like Winston was a few years back … but when Schmidt realized Adaway was clearly more athletic with a better upside than Winston the change was made. The result? The Bonnies became the best team in the A10.

Not sure that Barry needs to be a starter but he does need to play starter’s minutes if we are to be among the best team’s in the A10 this season.

Smdh we can’t give Barry props without running down another player or the coach

Schmidt runs set plays for Assa because he’s a good set shooter duh


As far as minutes goes, it’s gonna vary by matchups. Who cares who starts

[bigcat]

KC, didn’t I just say it doesn’t matter who starts? Duh. Matchups have nothing to do with our starting lineup.

Assa is a good shooter based on what? He is at 30% from deep and 64% from the line.

[Chuck]

Starter minutes is very different with this team. Unlike the Iron 5 days where every starter played over 35 minutes, this team doesn’t have anyone playing those type of minutes. Chuck Pride is the only starter playing over 30 minutes at 31.2 mpg. Starter minutes is now in the range of 25-30.

Yann has a total of 26 minutes compared to Barry with 19. Yann’s minutes have progressively declined, while Barry’s has increased. In fact the last 3 games Barry has more PT than Yann (71 to 57) and is averaging 23.7 minutes per game. This is a trend that is likely to continue.

Might help Yann’s game coming off the bench. 2 of Daryl’s best games have occurred with him coming off the bench. Then again Moses struggled in his first 3 games as a starter, but along with Daryl, Moses was terrific against St. Joe’s. Maybe it took Moses time to adjust to being a starter.

The important part in the Yann/Barry debate, is both players complement each other. Yann is the better offensive player while Barry is better on defense. You see this play out at the end of a close game with Schmidt switching them on each possession. Another big benefit is they are both solid rebounders. Schmidt doesn’t lose anything in rebounds when he substitutes for them.


www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/yann-farell-1/gamelog/2024
www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/barry-evans-1/gamelog/2024

[kccgold]

Jan 28, 2024 3:57:23 GMT -5 bigcat said:

KC, didn’t I just say it doesn’t matter who starts? Duh. Matchups have nothing to do with our starting lineup.

Assa is a good shooter based on what? He is at 30% from deep and 64% from the line.

I apologize for my tone but Assa shot over 40% from 3 last season, he is a spot shooter, that's his game. A good coach runs plays for a guy like that.


I think a problem this season is that they aren't running the offense much at times to give him those opportunities. The answer is not to bench him IMO, its to find a way to get him free for those 3 pointers again

[Hermit]

Jan 28, 2024 10:57:27 GMT -5 Chuck said:

Starter minutes is very different with this team. Unlike the Iron 5 days where every starter played over 35 minutes, this team doesn’t have anyone playing those type of minutes. Chuck Pride is the only starter playing over 30 minutes at 31.2 mpg. Starter minutes is now in the range of 25-30.

Yann has a total of 26 minutes compared to Barry with 19. Yann’s minutes have progressively declined, while Barry’s has increased. In fact the last 3 games Barry has more PT than Yann (71 to 57) and is averaging 23.7 minutes per game. This is a trend that is likely to continue.

Might help Yann’s game coming off the bench. 2 of Daryl’s best games have occurred with him coming off the bench. Then again Moses struggled in his first 3 games as a starter, but along with Daryl, Moses was terrific against St. Joe’s. Maybe it took Moses time to adjust to being a starter.

The important part in the Yann/Barry debate, is both players complement each other. Yann is the better offensive player while Barry is better on defense. You see this play out at the end of a close game with Schmidt switching them on each possession. Another big benefit is they are both solid rebounders. Schmidt doesn’t lose anything in rebounds when he substitutes for them.


www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/yann-farell-1/gamelog/2024
www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/barry-evans-1/gamelog/2024

Coach has said in the past that it’s not who starts the game, but who finishes the game….
I still think he is searching for the most effective “5”.
I have said 1-9 will need to contribute for the Bonnies to be successful. Interesting to note also, Charles Pride played only 12 minutes against St. Joe, and did not score.

[atlbonnie87]

Jan 28, 2024 12:00:57 GMT -5 Hermit said:

Jan 28, 2024 10:57:27 GMT -5 Chuck said:

Starter minutes is very different with this team. Unlike the Iron 5 days where every starter played over 35 minutes, this team doesn’t have anyone playing those type of minutes. Chuck Pride is the only starter playing over 30 minutes at 31.2 mpg. Starter minutes is now in the range of 25-30.

Yann has a total of 26 minutes compared to Barry with 19. Yann’s minutes have progressively declined, while Barry’s has increased. In fact the last 3 games Barry has more PT than Yann (71 to 57) and is averaging 23.7 minutes per game. This is a trend that is likely to continue.

Might help Yann’s game coming off the bench. 2 of Daryl’s best games have occurred with him coming off the bench. Then again Moses struggled in his first 3 games as a starter, but along with Daryl, Moses was terrific against St. Joe’s. Maybe it took Moses time to adjust to being a starter.

The important part in the Yann/Barry debate, is both players complement each other. Yann is the better offensive player while Barry is better on defense. You see this play out at the end of a close game with Schmidt switching them on each possession. Another big benefit is they are both solid rebounders. Schmidt doesn’t lose anything in rebounds when he substitutes for them.


www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/yann-farell-1/gamelog/2024
www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/barry-evans-1/gamelog/2024

Coach has said in the past that it’s not who starts the game, but who finishes the game….
I still think he is searching for the most effective “5”.
I have said 1-9 will need to contribute for the Bonnies to be successful. Interesting to note also, Charles Pride played only 12 minutes against St. Joe, and did not score.

SJU is a good example of who had the hot hand. Moses and Daryl were on. Pride rode the pine.

[trout95]

Jan 28, 2024 12:23:14 GMT -5 atlbonnie87 said:

Jan 28, 2024 12:00:57 GMT -5 Hermit said:

Coach has said in the past that it’s not who starts the game, but who finishes the game….
I still think he is searching for the most effective “5”.
I have said 1-9 will need to contribute for the Bonnies to be successful. Interesting to note also, Charles Pride played only 12 minutes against St. Joe, and did not score.

SJU is a good example of who had the hot hand. Moses and Daryl were on. Pride rode the pine.

Combined minutes for Pride and Woods may have been a season low considering how much Luc played.