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Post by bigcat on Apr 27, 2024 19:40:36 GMT -5
Former BONNIE, ASSA ESSAMVOUS has committed to East Carolina. Whatever makes these guys happy, I guess. 🤔
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Post by franchise33 on Apr 27, 2024 21:02:59 GMT -5
We need to be going after Melvin Councill from Wagner. He is from Rochester and would be a solid addition
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Post by Sipowicz on May 2, 2024 19:02:30 GMT -5
Houston Christian transfer and BONA target MARCUS GREENE is committing to Hawaii.
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Post by bonniefanatic508 on May 2, 2024 19:06:13 GMT -5
Allegany, New York is so much nicer! His loss!
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Post by towniegrad on May 3, 2024 13:48:45 GMT -5
muskrat sighting on the beautiful Allegany this morning ,and a group of deer …. Surf was negligible!
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Post by bigcat on May 4, 2024 2:56:29 GMT -5
From SB Nation: FAU’s former star Johnell Davis signed an NIL deal with Arkansas worth “north of $1 million.” That would put him in line with the biggest NIL earners in the transfer portal so far. Indiana reportedly paid ex-Arizona center Oumar Ballo — another consensus top-3 portal recruit — $1.2 million for his commitment earlier in April. It’s wild to consider that a college can outbid the NBA for a player, but that’s exactly what could happen here. Players on two-way deals in the NBA earned $559K last season, which is half of the league’s minimum rookie contract, according to SB Nation. www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2024/5/1/24146061/johnell-davis-arkansas-commit-transfer-portal-nba-draft-stockSome mid-majors also are stepping up big in the NIL game. Akron U supposedly raised close to $500k for basketball NIL and signed several P6 transfers. The Zips NIL is run by a local businessman who got other big doners involved. They opted to support Zips bball instead of football which is among the worse D1 programs in the country.
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Post by coach on May 4, 2024 4:10:32 GMT -5
welp, Collage Basketball is now really ruined. Just let them go pro out of High school, this is ridiculous. Pros are not even worth the money they make. The country is struggling and pro athletes are so overpaid it's crazy.
Total guaranteed Money
Deshaun Watson, $230 million • Signed: March 2022 (contract ends in 2027). That's 46 million a year, he's not worth $46 dollars per hour.
Who needs 46Million per year??? It's so out of control. That guy is not worth 46k per year.
It's absurd.
Then they complain about not being the highest paid at their position.
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Post by letsgobonas on May 4, 2024 7:52:17 GMT -5
Assa's departure is a classic example of $$ over the program... East Carolina is 100% a step down from a basketball perspective given Bonaventure's recent run... ECU hasn't been to the Big Dance since 1993.
However, with alumni such as Sandra Bullock and Vince McMahon, the Pirates undoubtedly have deep pockets... enrollment over 20K.
Good luck to you Assa, but you have absolutely chosen the almighty dollar over basketball success.
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Post by MTG007 on May 4, 2024 8:33:17 GMT -5
Crazy NIL numbers. Do players actually perform any duties for NIL or do they just get the $$$?
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Post by Hermit on May 4, 2024 9:15:20 GMT -5
Assa's departure is a classic example of $$ over the program... East Carolina is 100% a step down from a basketball perspective given Bonaventure's recent run... ECU hasn't been to the Big Dance since 1993. However, with alumni such as Sandra Bullock and Vince McMahon, the Pirates undoubtedly have deep pockets... enrollment over 20K. Good luck to you Assa, but you have absolutely chosen the almighty dollar over basketball success. What was he paid at Bona…..and what is he now making at East Carolina?
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Post by bigcat on May 4, 2024 9:17:20 GMT -5
Crazy NIL numbers. Do players actually perform any duties for NIL or do they just get the $$$? Great question. It’s a mixed bag. Some players are contractually obligated by NIL collectives to do public appearances, community events etc. All BS most likely. Players are able to endorse products (often through alumni-owned or booster-owned companies) and make money off their personal brand or merchandise. They can do TV commercials, post branded ads on their social media channels and have companies do the same. There is very little enforcement or rules to navigate. The NCAA, some states and many individual schools have reporting and disclosure requirements for any NIL deals. Currently there is no federal NIL law but some schools, conferences and the NCAA have called for more government guidelines — as if that would make things better.
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Post by bigcat on May 4, 2024 9:23:15 GMT -5
Assa's departure is a classic example of $$ over the program... East Carolina is 100% a step down from a basketball perspective given Bonaventure's recent run... ECU hasn't been to the Big Dance since 1993. However, with alumni such as Sandra Bullock and Vince McMahon, the Pirates undoubtedly have deep pockets... enrollment over 20K. Good luck to you Assa, but you have absolutely chosen the almighty dollar over basketball success. Agreed but we really do not know much about each player’s personal situation. Does their family need money? Do they finally realize that they are not NBA-bound? How many years do they have to get paid playing hoops? Not defending the NIL structure or the chaos. But I don’t blame anyone for taking advantage of new rules. Also sad to lose players and good young men like Assa.
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Post by dadster81 on May 4, 2024 9:39:08 GMT -5
The NCAA "forfeited the higher moral ground" on this issue 10 years ago (see my rant on another thread about the NCAA and this issue). IMO, they have very limited ability to authorize anything here. I think they know they are on life support - one mistake and the power conferences will just leave. The NIL has become a "labor" issue - what limitations can be placed on a person who wants to earn a living. Labor issues are usually State or Federal issues. Since schools cross interstate boundaries, maybe a Federal issue? Maybe not - States do have competing minimum wages. But capping the earning power of an individual is always an issue - look at the disparity among CEOs of major companies and the majority of their workforce. And Congress has not shown the ability to legislate anything well in a long time (IMO).
Now what makes this situation interesting to me is the "tax" side of the deal. I am a huge proponent of charitable contributions. And I do not like the suggestion of capping them more for tax purposes (My eyes are on you, Democratic legislators who want to cap this deduction). HOWEVER, I strongly believe that donations to schools that end up as pay to athletes (outside of scholarships) or to some type of NIL should NOT be tax deductible. To receive tax exempt status as a organization (such as a school) the school has to stay within its "purpose" that has to be listed on their tax exempt status form. I do not think "buying the best" BB or football team should give them tax exempt status. So let people or organizations give all they want to this new NIL situation - I as a taxpayer do not want to be "paying" for SU's basketball players.
I will step off my soap box now
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Post by ceharv on May 4, 2024 10:47:43 GMT -5
dadster, your points are well-taken. IMO info like how much each player receives and what he has to do for it will eventually be publicized. Everything is new right now and I think schools are fearful that if they’re the first to publicized the info, they will scare off prospects. I don’t think things will settle down until there’s a final answer on various tax-related issues, starting with whether NIL donations to schools is deductible or not (I would put real money on not deductible.). Second, is NIL money taxable income? (again, my money is on yes.) These questions may take years to answer, but I presume the IRS is already working on these questions. Once those issues are worked out things will settle down.
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Post by cb3pttee on May 4, 2024 12:34:39 GMT -5
Assa's departure is a classic example of $$ over the program... East Carolina is 100% a step down from a basketball perspective given Bonaventure's recent run... ECU hasn't been to the Big Dance since 1993. However, with alumni such as Sandra Bullock and Vince McMahon, the Pirates undoubtedly have deep pockets... enrollment over 20K. Good luck to you Assa, but you have absolutely chosen the almighty dollar over basketball success. What was he paid at Bona…..and what is he now making at East Carolina? Please, refrain from requesting facts. Conjecture that Sandra Bullock and Vince McMahon, in between his legal fees, are donating to a program who hasn’t finished above 500 in 11 years, in order to bring in a non NIL eligible intl player in Assa, is evidence enough. Specifics aren’t necessary.
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