Unfurl's $15 to create ultimate Bona lineup.

[pete's mom]

I see Tom Booney and Mike Hunt as options. Pat Allen was a better player from that era, IMO

[FormerlyKnownAsSkeller]

I'll take Lanier and Kalbaugh and you guys can have the rest. There is not another single selection available with enough defensive talent who could have stopped Bob. Billy would get the ball to him and it'sgame over.

[Hermit]

May 22, 2024 4:42:25 GMT -5 bonnieswin said:

Totally flabbergasted how you cannot have Lanier in your starting 5! He's the greatest player in Bona history and he's in the Top 100 list of all time NBA players. Seriously?

I agree. Yet, come up with a front court with better numbers.

[pete's mom]

May 22, 2024 9:56:24 GMT -5 Hermit said:

May 22, 2024 4:42:25 GMT -5 bonnieswin said:

Totally flabbergasted how you cannot have Lanier in your starting 5! He's the greatest player in Bona history and he's in the Top 100 list of all time NBA players. Seriously?

I agree. Yet, come up with a front court with better numbers.

No 3 point shot, Big Cat all the way.

I selected AN based , in part, on his prowess shooting the 3. Plus I saved a buck

[Hermit]

May 22, 2024 10:03:57 GMT -5 pete's mom said:

May 22, 2024 9:56:24 GMT -5 Hermit said:

I agree. Yet, come up with a front court with better numbers.

No 3 point shot, Big Cat all the way.

I selected AN based , in part, on his prowess shooting the 3. Plus I saved a buck

Show me the numbers…

[fjs64]

Interesting. Tried to determine a team that would win in today's style of games. One thought was to load the team with 4 3 point shooters and Lanier. But tradition got me.

Obviously I am going with Lanier. I tried to figure how Tom Stith would fit in....Tom had a phenomenal inside game with his unstoppable hook shot, also could shoot from distance.

So taking Tom and Bob, and 80% of my points, I added Glenn Hagen to man the point. He could shoot, play defense and get the ball to our scorers. We need to fill out the roster with tough no nonsense players. So I added, Sam Graham and Bob Dzengelski to provide toughness and defense, plus score when needed.

[wiz89]

I would take

Lanier
Llewelyn
Vanterpool
Adaway
Posley

Can I have Sam Graham on the bench since he is free, always fun to watch on or off the floor.

[glenlaw]

1. Small Forward  - Tom Stith for 6 bucks:

Tom Stith became St. Bonaventure's first consensus All-American in 1960 and 1961. Stith left St. Bonaventure as the school's all-time leading scorer, ending his career with 2,052 points. Stith finished second in the nation in scoring to Oscar Robertson in 1960, averaging 31.5 points per game, and he then finished third in 1961 with 29.6 points per game.


After completing his collegiate eligibility, Stith was selected by the New York Knicks as the second pick overall in the 1961 NBA draft, behind Indiana's Walt Bellamy. He made the team and played in 46 games over the 1961–62 seasons. However, Stith contracted tuberculosis only a month into the season, and his NBA career was cut short at 25 games and 3.2 points per game.  I love Bob Lanier, but IMO Tom Stith the greatest collegiate player in Bonas history

2.  Center 

If you had given me 18 bucks of course it would have been Lanier, and if you had given me 16 bucks it would have been Glenn Price.  but I have to go with best bang for the limited  bucks that I have, so at center, I pick:

Caswell Cyrus for 3 bucks..

A key figure in the program’s late-90s resurgence and one of the best defensive players in Bona history, Cyrus held the school record for blocks (289) while also ranking first and third in the single-season category for rejections (with 99 in 1997-98 and 84 in 1996-97), (before Shoon), 16th in rebounds (680) and 33rd in scoring (1,121 points) .

The Toronto native, who helped the Bonnies to pair of postseasons (the 1998 NIT and 2000 NCAA, where he grabbed 18 rebounds in a triple overtime loss to Kentucky), is one of just two players in Bona annals to make three Atlantic 10 all-defensive teams (1997-00).

3.  Point Guard - Marquez Green for 4 bucks (Gotta pay up for your point guard):

  While a case could be made for Glenn Hagan or Jaylen Adams as the top point guard in Bona history, Green remains the best from a sheer statistical standpoint.

The Norristown, Pa., native ranks ninth — and second among guards behind Adams — on the program’s career scoring list with 1,734 points. Additionally, he holds the school record for assists (657) and steals (325), numbers that rank eighth and second in Atlantic 10 history, while also sitting No. 1 in career 3-pointers with 281.

Green, who helped Bona to a pair of postseasons (the 2001 and ‘02 NIT), is one of just five players in program history to be named all-conference three times, making the third team in ‘02, the second team in ‘03 and the first team in ‘04, and one of two (alongside Cyrus) to make three all-defensive teams.

4.   Best bang for the remaining bucks at shooting guard (can't afford Freddie Crawford) - Jalen Adeway for 2 bucks:

Adaway averaged 12.2 points and six rebounds per game as a junior, helping the Bonnies to win their first Atlantic 10 Conference Tournament since 2012 and receive an automatic berth to the NCAA Tournament. As a senior, he averaged 15.3 points and 5.9 rebounds per game while shooting a career-high 37.6% from three-point range, earning First Team All-Atlantic 10 honors.  Great rebounding guard who dazzled us with his leaping ability and alley oops.  Awesome defender.


Well, out of money and with one slot still left to fill.  (I feel like Billy Beane in Moneyball).   Was going to pick Bonas captain Jim Baron as a freebie, would have given me perhaps the best all-defensive team in Bonas lore (or at least in this contest) .  But I have too many guards.  Would love a top forward, but no money left for Essie, Greg Sanders, Nicholson or Belcher.  So my selection will instead beeee: 

5. Forward - Duane Thompson!  Loyal sophomore, freebie, off our current squad.  With this crew surrounding him, he could really develop!  And if by chance he happens to read this thread, maybe it will pump him up to have an awesome '24 - '25 season for us!  

Spent way too  much time on this, but Go Bonas!!!
 

[fjs64]

Glenlaw....the information you found on Tom Stith regarding TB is incorrect, although I have seen it before. Tom, and his roommate, Fred Crawford contracted the disease sometime during the 60/61 season. A fellow Bona Graduate who worked as the teams waiter, told me that Tom was complaining about weight loss and being tired, probably late January/early February 1961. The Bonnies peaked at 21-1 record, ranked 2nd in the nation behind Ohio State. Then the impact of the illness started showing...the loss to Niagara which would have been 100 straight at the Armory, then a loss to Duquesne, and needed a 2nd half comeback to beat Canisius.

After the season, Tom and Freddie were diagnosed with TB. Everyone on campus were also checked for TB.

Freddie came back to campus the following year as he recovered. After sitting out that year, he returned to action the following season.

Tom was drafted, but had to sit out the year. I do not remember the exact time line, but the fact was that he was not the ballplayer he could have been as the lingering effect of TB totally drained him.

[coach]

How about this team.

jay adams
posley
stockard
dion wright
nicholson

[marylandbonnie1]

It is hard to go wrong with Bona PGs throughout the years. We really are PG U.

How many more points could have Kalbaugh, Hagen and Jones had if they would have had a 3pt line. Vanterpool, Winn and O’Neil were all difference makers. Adams and Greene were probably the best in Bona history and are reflected as such in the $ rankings.

Below are my surprises that not many people have picked:

Greg Sanders-I barely saw him play due to my age but not many picked him. I heard he could drain jumpers from anywhere. Once again, how many more points would he have had if the 3pt line existed.

Earl Belcher-same as Sanders. Has anyone picked him?

Harry Moore- at PF. I picked him but Can you imagine him on the same team as Lanier. I struggle to come up with a better PF in Bona history that I actually watched. AN is better if you classify him as a PF.

Chris Matthews, Mike Sheehey and Kevin Houston-what if those guys would have played longer at Bona.

Matt Mobley and JR Bremer—SG. Arguably the two best shooters since the turn of the century.

[fjs64]

May 22, 2024 18:07:34 GMT -5 fjs64 said:

Glenlaw....the information you found on Tom Stith regarding TB is incorrect, although I have seen it before. Tom, and his roommate, Fred Crawford contracted the disease sometime during the 60/61 season. A fellow Bona Graduate who worked as the teams waiter, told me that Tom was complaining about weight loss and being tired, probably late January/early February 1961. The Bonnies peaked at 21-1 record, ranked 2nd in the nation behind Ohio State. Then the impact of the illness started showing...the loss to Niagara which would have been 100 straight at the Armory, then a loss to Duquesne, and needed a 2nd half comeback to beat Canisius.

After the season, Tom and Freddie were diagnosed with TB. Everyone on campus were also checked for TB.

Freddie came back to campus the following year as he recovered. After sitting out that year, he returned to action the following season.

Tom was drafted, but had to sit out the year. I do not remember the exact time line, but the fact was that he was not the ballplayer he could have been as the lingering effect of TB totally drained him.

The source of your post was Wikipedia, which I use often, but in this case incorrect. It also stated that Tom played the 62/63 season, which made sense, as he would have sat out the 61/62 year

An aside, in the 61/62 season the Knicks were coached by Tom's college coach, Eddie Donovan. And the famous game in which Wilt Chamberlin scored 100 points, also in 1962, Tom's brother Sam was on the bench for the Knicks

[ddsmugs]

No love for Barry Mungar? Not even in Canadian money?

[zorro (res)]

Tell me what era, and therefore which set of rules would be in effect, and I'll answer the question. Otherwise it's not worth the exercise. The best Bona player in his era was probably Tom Stith, by a very narrow margin over Lanier in his. But, if we're playing today's game, they're worth a bit less than if they were playing in theirs.

I absolutely love Martin and Kalbaugh, but they wouldn't make the cut if they played in today's game. If they grew up in today's game, maybe they could, but they weren't. The same thing applies to modern players if they had to play the game as it was played decades ago.

But, I'll take George Carter, regardless. Freddy Crawford, too.

[kccgold]

Crawford was before my time but I watched a documentary on Rucker Park, man was Crawford and those guys so cool… !!

I believe he said something to the effect of “we left the park and went right to Bonaventure…” as if we were the only/clear/best option