Rumored salary for Schmidt draws ire of faculty

[stoversghost]

Barry Gan is a good man. He wears his heart on his sleeve and no doubt pushes his point of view to all who will listen. He is a man of integrity, boundless intelligence and curiosity and truely cares for his students and the Bonaventure Community at-large. If you take a step back and think about his position and review what he said about this issue, perhaps you'll accept that things - not only at SBU but everywhere - are so friggin' out of whack. He's trying to highlight that and I for one commend him for it.
Plus he's also a huge buddy of Sport from Sport, Gan and Nash and they could lay it down in three part harmony back in the day at Club 17 and elsewhere. For that alone he gets the benefit of my doubt.

[unclefrosty]

Keystone

post of the year !

money trees

too funny

[sburizz]

I've never had Gan as a professor and I am sure he is a very good guy and he does have a point about SBU not giving raises the past couple of years but the move of hiring Schmidt and paying him well is an investment in the University that will hopefully pay dividends. I do sympathize with the professors, they don't get paid well to start with and not even getting a cost of living increase must hurt.

[sireltonruddock]

Barry Gan is a wonderful person and great professor. The criticisms that I have read on here make me sick.

[mcspin]

sireltonruddock said:

Barry Gan is a wonderful person and great professor. The criticisms that I have read on here make me sick.

What makes me sick is that the child I'm sending to SBU might get stuck taking a class from a pathetic excuse for a professor who decides to hold a protest at my expense. I expect my child to get the education I paid for. Anything less is unacceptable.

[cosmonautlaunchpad]

mcspin said:

sireltonruddock said:

Barry Gan is a wonderful person and great professor. The criticisms that I have read on here make me sick.

What makes me sick is that the child I'm sending to SBU might get stuck taking a class from a pathetic excuse for a professor who decides to hold a protest at my expense. I expect my child to get the education I paid for. Anything less is unacceptable.

God forbid your child learn something about voicing their opinions and standing up for what they believe in. I didn't always agree with Barry's protests, but I admired his courage and respected his right to do so.

[norm]

(from treedoyle): I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but it's just not reasonable for SBU to add football. The initial investment alone would be in the millions ... millions SBU can't afford to spend on a football program that will generate next to no worthwhile revenue.

Your numbers are WAY off !

And, if there is a small group of donors (and there IS) that want football to return to SBU, and they already have a kitty of $3,000,000 to donate to get it started and then some, are you actually saying that we should tell these people (old-time alums, mostly retired that have been VERY successful in business), that we should say "thanks, but no thanks" ?!?!?!?!?

[room109]

NORM - Rumor has it on the Left Coast that former St Bona Football caoch Matt Conte will be back at the helm to starts things off. Plus they only going to pay him a small salary of $225,000 per year for the first three years. I think it will be fun to watch Penn St play the Bonnies in Bradner Staduim! Also, next April SBU will be breaking ground for the new Dome sports complex that will hold 50,000 plus for all of the team sports including basketball.

[softintheo]

room109 said:

NORM - Rumor has it on the Left Coast that former St Bona Football caoch Matt Conte will be back at the helm to starts things off. Plus they only going to pay him a small salary of $225,000 per year for the first three years. I think it will be fun to watch Penn St play the Bonnies in Bradner Staduim! Also, next April SBU will be breaking ground for the new Dome sports complex that will hold 50,000 plus for all of the team sports including basketball.

That's awesome....I was waiting for someone to call out Norman's said "$3,000,000 kitty."

Now I obviously don't contribute $3,000,000 to SBU, but I would really be interested in knowing who these "older alumni" are that would be willing to drop that kind of bankroll for football at SBU???

It they were really that successful in business you would think they knew there was a better way to help a university with $3,000,000 than starting a stupid football program.

[spils84]

softintheo said:

room109 said:

NORM - Rumor has it on the Left Coast that former St Bona Football caoch Matt Conte will be back at the helm to starts things off. Plus they only going to pay him a small salary of $225,000 per year for the first three years. I think it will be fun to watch Penn St play the Bonnies in Bradner Staduim! Also, next April SBU will be breaking ground for the new Dome sports complex that will hold 50,000 plus for all of the team sports including basketball.

That's awesome....I was waiting for someone to call out Norman's said "$3,000,000 kitty."

Now I obviously don't contribute $3,000,000 to SBU, but I would really be interested in knowing who these "older alumni" are that would be willing to drop that kind of bankroll for football at SBU???

It they were really that successful in business you would think they knew there was a better way to help a university with $3,000,000 than starting a stupid football program.

Tell me, what is your suggestion for helping the university, because it seems to me the ones tried recently aren't working? What is this "better way" that you speak of? Another coffee house or addition to the library, perhaps? Those looking to start the football program are doing so first and foremost to increase enrollment and help out Bonas. It's that simple.

[sneakers]

softintheo said:

It they were really that successful in business you would think they knew there was a better way to help a university with $3,000,000 than starting a stupid football program.

There are a lot of ways to help the university. However, the best way to help is to do so in a way that would encourage significant increases in enrollment that would be a source of recurring revenue for the school every year. Don't give a man a fish, rather teach him to fish! If the school is to get its financial house in order it needs consistent recurring revenue and increased applications and enrollment. Do you know that 2007 saw the largest number of college applicants in history? Why is SBU missing out on this, BIG TIME? Do you think that perhaps it is because we are not offering the programs and activities that interest the applicants?

FB is certainly not the only way to go. But, I think it is one of the things that would help. Adding new majors that appeal to more students, improving the classroom buildings, the dorms and the other facilities would help as well. Putting in turf fields so that most of our sports games and practices (and intermurals) are not canceled or moved off campus due to wet fields would help. So would adding other less expensive non-scholarship sports like Lax, field hockey, volleyball, track and field.

For those of you who think that adding sports would not add new students, think about what would happen if we were to drop one of our few existing programs like the swimming, baseball or golf program. There are not a tremendous amount of swimmers, baseball players or golfers at SBU, but how many of them do you think would have applied to SBU in the first place and decided to go there if SBU did not offer the sport they wanted to play? Probably very few as these men and women wanted to play their sport in college. For the same reason we are missing out on a substantial population of high school applicants that want to play their sports in college and SBU doesn't offer it. Meanwhile dozens of other colleges in western NY do offer lax, field hockey, volleyball, ice hockey, track and field (and, yes, Football).

If we have a dedicated group of successful alumni that want to hit the hip and provide their own money to upgrade the sports programs that we offer, it is insane to turn this away.

We ****** and moan all the time about our lack of endowment at SBU, but much of that is related to our lack of growth as a university. We have fewer students at SBU currently than we had when I went there two decades ago. Without growth in students and growth in interesting programs and activities, you will simply not see a growth in the endowment. It is past time for the university to get more aggressive in moving the school into the 1990's (we can worry about moving into the 21st century after that).

[southhampton]

How about donating that money to upgrade academic buildings?

[spils84]

Agreed, buildings do need to be upgraded, but when it comes to affecting enrollment, those are baby steps.

When I toured Bonas a couple of years ago with my daughter, it was obvious that upgrades were needed. Certainly, updated academic buildings and dorms will make in impact on a visitor and his/her parents.

However, a greater vision, and greater risk is needed to get those HS seniors to visit Bonas in the first place. I doubt there is a group of high school football (or lacrosse or hockey) players in Rochester sitting around their school cafeteria today saying that they should head down to St. Bonaventure this weekend to check out the new sheetrock at DeLaRoche.

[southhampton]

spils84 said:

I doubt there is a group of high school football (or lacrosse or hockey) players in Rochester sitting around their school cafeteria today saying that they should head down to St. Bonaventure this weekend to check out the new sheetrock at DeLaRoche.

I also doubt that there is a group of science students saying they should come to bonaventure for a non schoalrship football team. I guess its all about what kind of students you want to attract.

[spils84]

It's not all about the kind of students you want to attract...it is also about the numbers of students that you need to attract.