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Post by thebonafan08 on Sept 30, 2009 15:32:27 GMT -5
It takes a long time for the light bulb to go on,but wny will buy tickets to see the little three play...Miss. State? not so much. Miss. State happened because they approached us. Turning down an opportunity to play an SEC team at home would have been asinine. This year Bonaventure has the opportunity to play at Miss. State in a hostile large arena environment. Even if that quote was true (attendance of SBU V Canisius...3896. SBU v. Miss. State 4322) the experience a team picks up by playing a much more talented team greatly outweighs any perceived benefit by a local rivalry game. I am not saying playing the little three is a bad idea, I like it and we should play them each once every year, but a home and home in one season for both Canisius and Niagara is nothing but a waste of scheduling. God willing Bonaventure wins enough games to be relevant in RPI tournament discussions....what does beating a decent niagara team and terrible Canisius team twice in one season do at all? Or even worse a loss and win against both would make a wash out four games. I'll take a tournament team with a national defensive player of the year at home over any New York team short of Syracuse at home.
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Post by jh on Sept 30, 2009 18:50:43 GMT -5
It takes a long time for the light bulb to go on,but wny will buy tickets to see the little three play...Miss. State? not so much. Miss. State happened because they approached us. Turning down an opportunity to play an SEC team at home would have been asinine. This year Bonaventure has the opportunity to play at Miss. State in a hostile large arena environment. Even if that quote was true (attendance of SBU V Canisius...3896. SBU v. Miss. State 4322) the experience a team picks up by playing a much more talented team greatly outweighs any perceived benefit by a local rivalry game. I am not saying playing the little three is a bad idea, I like it and we should play them each once every year, but a home and home in one season for both Canisius and Niagara is nothing but a waste of scheduling. God willing Bonaventure wins enough games to be relevant in RPI tournament discussions....what does beating a decent niagara team and terrible Canisius team twice in one season do at all? Or even worse a loss and win against both would make a wash out four games. I'll take a tournament team with a national defensive player of the year at home over any New York team short of Syracuse at home. Scheduling Canisius and Niagara twice is a waste of scheduling? Are you our of your mind that instead of a 2nd game with Niagara (few NCAA bids recently) we are instead playing a Savannah State or Lemoyne ? thats somehow better?? how?
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Post by maplehurst on Sept 30, 2009 21:49:48 GMT -5
It wasn't just an SEC team playing in Olean, it was the SEC Champions. As it turned out, scheduling Mississippi State, even though they approached Bonas, was a good move.
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Post by presstowin on Sept 30, 2009 22:09:23 GMT -5
I can't believe we are thinking of playing more home games away from the R C. Let's all drive up to Rochester during the week and get back to work bright and early.
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Post by room109 on Oct 1, 2009 6:20:32 GMT -5
I here through the vine that season ticket prices are going to rise? That would not make business sense. After observing the attendance over the last four years it has been AWFUL.
To the Sports Marketing Dept. -THINK OUT OF THE BOX- If you want more fans in the seats REDUCE the ticket prices for a couple of seasons as the team improves. By filling the RC you will make your cost up by the increase in attendance and continue to add young Bonnies fans WANTING to come back. Now that's too hard to understand is it.
PS you can even leave out the cow tipping and milking contests.
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Post by ka on Oct 1, 2009 9:27:41 GMT -5
I here through the vine that season ticket prices are going to rise? That would not make business sense. After observing the attendance over the last four years it has been AWFUL. To the Sports Marketing Dept. -THINK OUT OF THE BOX- If you want more fans in the seats REDUCE the ticket prices for a couple of seasons as the team improves. By filling the RC you will make your cost up by the increase in attendance and continue to add young Bonnies fans WANTING to come back. Now that's too hard to understand is it. PS you can even leave out the cow tipping and milking contests. Are you kidding? Ticket prices are so cheap now, going any lower and they would essentially be free. I really don't think it is the price of admission that is keeping people away. It is the quality of the program that was put on the court pre-Shmidt. It is going to take some time.
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Post by maplehurst on Oct 1, 2009 9:36:40 GMT -5
One thing that could help attendance is to have more Saturady night games. There are only two on the present home schedule. I do not understand why games are scheduled at 4 PM or on Friday nights. Winter is long enough here. Fans like to come from Buffalo and Rochester, but on Friday nights they have to husltle out of work to get here. I think Saturday nights at the RC are special. The old adage that you want to get your score in the Sunday papers by playing early doesn't hold water anymore. Warm Saturday nights in RC make the winter go by so much faster. And it is good to see everyone too.
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Post by mh05 on Oct 1, 2009 10:54:08 GMT -5
Where does this sense of entitlement come from? If it werent for b*tching and moaning about ticket prices, playing 1 game a year in Buff/Roc, the time and day of the week conference home games are played on, the quality of non-conference opponent we play at home, etc etc, Im not sure what some of the posters on here would talk about.
Last I checked, the St. Bonaventure men's basketball program is not Burger King, where you "Have it your way". And when you call the ticket office, William Shatner from priceline.com is not going to answer and let you name your own price on tickets.
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Post by pepp on Oct 1, 2009 12:22:27 GMT -5
Where does this sense of entitlement come from? If it werent for b*tching and moaning about ticket prices, playing 1 game a year in Buff/Roc, the time and day of the week conference home games are played on, the quality of non-conference opponent we play at home, etc etc, Im not sure what some of the posters on here would talk about. Last I checked, the St. Bonaventure men's basketball program is not Burger King, where you "Have it your way". And when you call the ticket office, William Shatner from priceline.com is not going to answer and let you name your own price on tickets. soon they'll be complaining about the 1/2 sized wieners being served at halftime (sorry clubhouse, I beat you to it).
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Post by thebonafan08 on Oct 1, 2009 12:51:46 GMT -5
Miss. State happened because they approached us. Turning down an opportunity to play an SEC team at home would have been asinine. This year Bonaventure has the opportunity to play at Miss. State in a hostile large arena environment. Even if that quote was true (attendance of SBU V Canisius...3896. SBU v. Miss. State 4322) the experience a team picks up by playing a much more talented team greatly outweighs any perceived benefit by a local rivalry game. I am not saying playing the little three is a bad idea, I like it and we should play them each once every year, but a home and home in one season for both Canisius and Niagara is nothing but a waste of scheduling. God willing Bonaventure wins enough games to be relevant in RPI tournament discussions....what does beating a decent niagara team and terrible Canisius team twice in one season do at all? Or even worse a loss and win against both would make a wash out four games. I'll take a tournament team with a national defensive player of the year at home over any New York team short of Syracuse at home. Scheduling Canisius and Niagara twice is a waste of scheduling? Are you our of your mind that instead of a 2nd game with Niagara (few NCAA bids recently) we are instead playing a Savannah State or Lemoyne ? thats somehow better?? how? Who is to say Niagara had it in their schedule to want to play Bonaventure twice? A lot of deals with local teams are long term and do not have room for adding another game in the middle of an existing contract. If Niagara was willing to play a home game at Bonaventure, had room on their schedule and Bona athletic department turned it down for a Lemoyne home game obviously it would be stupid, but I highly doubt that was the case. Regardless, my point is that as a general strategy in scheduling games, playing the same team out of conference twice in a season is a poor strategy if your teams goal is to make it to a post season tournament (aside form A10). Like I said before, Bonaventure likely scheduled these games because they needed home games to meet projected budgets the athletic department has. We don't have the money to pay teams to come here and likely do not want to go on road trips to obscure schools so this was likely the best option. I am really happy with this years schedule regardless of the D2 cupcake in the middle of it.
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Post by fjs64 on Oct 4, 2009 20:51:02 GMT -5
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Post by fjs64 on Oct 4, 2009 21:04:01 GMT -5
My freshman year, 1960/61 we played John Carroll, Murray State, Villa Madonna, Morehead, Belmont Abbey, and Western Ontario. They were home games......wins, easy wins and we got to see the bench players in action. It's good to give everybody minutes, and its fun to see your team clobber an opponent......it doesn't happen very much anymore.
So don't complain, enjoy it, it is a good schedule overall. It's better than playing Rochester Optometry (our opponent in 1922/23, or the Batavia YMCA ('23/24) or the Hornell KC, or Fredonia, etc......
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Post by LumsdnA10Academc98 on Oct 4, 2009 23:10:51 GMT -5
My freshman year, 1960/61 we played John Carroll, Murray State, Villa Madonna, Morehead, Belmont Abbey, and Western Ontario. They were home games......wins, easy wins and we got to see the bench players in action. It's good to give everybody minutes, and its fun to see your team clobber an opponent......it doesn't happen very much anymore. So don't complain, enjoy it, it is a good schedule overall. It's better than playing Rochester Optometry (our opponent in 1922/23, or the Batavia YMCA ('23/24) or the Hornell KC, or Fredonia, etc...... Sorry, but a lot has changes since your freshman year half a century ago. A game against a D II opponent isn't even recognized in our RPI. A game against Savannah State does our no favors for our RPI, which affects recruiting and our postseason resume. Scheduling low quality opponents doesn't sell tickets, justify an increase in season ticket prices or attract corporate sponsors. These are several good reasons why adding both Savannah State and Lemoyne doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Post by sneakers on Oct 5, 2009 7:35:30 GMT -5
These are several good reasons why adding both Savannah State and Lemoyne doesn't make a lot of sense. and your alternative is . . . . ? (btw, whatever you come up with the coaching staff probably already tried)
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Post by diehard on Oct 5, 2009 8:42:09 GMT -5
If the travel budget is an issue, couldn't we find a NYS d1 team to schedule? There are quite a few not already on the schedule.
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