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Post by Saulius Dumbliauskas on Jun 30, 2015 15:11:48 GMT -5
This seems great for recruitment: St. Bonaventure, UB reach agreement on seven-year program in pharmacy Jun 25, 2015 | St. Bonaventure University will offer a seven-year doctor of pharmacy program in collaboration with the University at Buffalo’s School of Pharmacy and Pharmaceutical Sciences. The program will first be offered in fall 2016. Students accepted into this competitive program will have a conditional seat waiting for them at UB after majoring in biology at St. Bonaventure for three years. Monica Thomas, Ph.D.“Aligning ourselves with the highly respected pharmacy school at UB is a welcomed opportunity for prospective students, as well as the St. Bonaventure community,” said Dr. Monica Thomas, director of the Franciscan Health Care Professions program at St. Bonaventure. The program is completed with an additional four years at UB, leading to a bachelor’s degree awarded by St. Bonaventure and a doctorate in pharmacy awarded by UB. The acceptance to UB is conditional because academic, comportment, and procedural requirements must be maintained while at St. Bonaventure in order to move on to UB’s School of Pharmacy. Requirements will be detailed in writing when a conditional acceptance is offered, and can also be found online at www.sbu.edu/ubpharm. Students have the option to spend a fourth year of the program at St. Bonaventure University to complete a bachelor’s degree, thereby extending the length of the overall program to eight years. The new dual-degree program is one of 11 programs — either in medicine, dentistry, pharmacy or physical therapy — under the umbrella of St. Bonaventure’s FHCP program; it’s the second articulation agreement with UB (dentistry). “St. Bonaventure has successfully placed a number of highly qualified graduates in reserved seats in various health professions graduate programs for the past nine years. This program gives students interested in SBU and a career in pharmacy one more option, to complement our existing FHCP offerings,” said Thomas. To learn more about any of St. Bonaventure’s FHCP programs, visit www.sbu.edu/prehealth, or contact Thomas at mthomas@sbu.edu.
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Post by dadster81 on Jun 30, 2015 15:53:33 GMT -5
Great job - hope they can slowly move the split major to full 7 years at Bonas. Health fields are growing, and pharmacists are great paying jobs.
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Post by dadster81 on Jun 30, 2015 15:53:54 GMT -5
Great job - hope they can slowly move the split major to full 7 years at Bonas. Health fields are growing, and pharmacists are great paying jobs.
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Post by bbb on Jun 30, 2015 18:33:14 GMT -5
Leaving college after you junior year is like leaving a party at 11PM. It should be 4/3. Not 3/4
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Post by sbu79 on Jun 30, 2015 20:53:16 GMT -5
Leaving college after you junior year is like leaving a party at 11PM. It should be 4/3. Not 3/4 Maybe the "comportment" clause comes into play here. It is pharmacy school we are talking about after all.
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Post by fjs64 on Jun 30, 2015 21:41:30 GMT -5
Great job - hope they can slowly move the split major to full 7 years at Bonas. Health fields are growing, and pharmacists are great paying jobs. Interesting that this is mentioned today. Yesterday (Monday) when I took my periodic trip to Bona's and while in the Burton, chatted with a father and daughter. The father is married to a Bona grad.....the daughter is going into her 4th year at Nazareth College near Rochester. She selected Nazareth over Bona's because of its Pyhsical Therapy program which is a 6 year doctorate program.....where Bona had a 3 year then 3 more years a Daemon College. She did not like the thought of leaving just before her senior year, and she did not like Daemon COllege, felt it was more a commuter school. The family is from Elmira, were on a trip to/from Cleveland and stopped for a Burton burger and to drive through the campus. The pharmacy program gives you the option of 4 years at Bona's....but increasing the years to 8 vs the 7.
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Post by 123Rob on Jul 1, 2015 5:35:29 GMT -5
Oh the irony, fjs! They are friends of mine. Too bad circumstances were not right for her as she is a lovely young woman that would have represented Bona's well. Several members of her mom's family are alumni. To the point, I see a lot of my sons' peers selecting schools for PT and PA programs. Hopefully we can shore up those articulation programs- maybe Duquesne and/or Scranton or the aforementioned Naz, would be more attractive options. Another lost opportunity of the Hilbert merger fiasco was losing the chance of a 'semester in Buffalo' or 'summer in Buffalo' option where students should spend time in Buffalo living at Hilbert while studying at UB or Daemen. Then perhaps, they could have their senior year at Bona's without extending 6 and 7 year programs to 7 or 8. Maybe a dual degree engineering program with UB could have been set up as well. Finally, to circle back to the folks you met, had we merged with Hilbert and their Crimiminal Justice program. The Dad you chatted with could have been an awesome adjunct for CJ classes at Bona's.
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Post by f45rpm on Jul 1, 2015 7:04:49 GMT -5
In re: to local pharmacy programs, there is a wonderful one at LECOM in Erie PA--with the right science based background you can transfer in there as a junior and graduate in 3 years. You go to school pretty much year round for those 3 years including internships etc and come out making well into 6 figures, probably about a quarter of a million dollar head start vs. starting at Bonas and transferring to UB--also, if you don't like the weather etc in Erie, they have another campus in Florida
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Post by dadster81 on Jul 1, 2015 7:37:22 GMT -5
In re: to local pharmacy programs, there is a wonderful one at LECOM in Erie PA--with the right science based background you can transfer in there as a junior and graduate in 3 years. You go to school pretty much year round for those 3 years including internships etc and come out making well into 6 figures, probably about a quarter of a million dollar head start vs. starting at Bonas and transferring to UB--also, if you don't like the weather etc in Erie, they have another campus in Florida Your post made me curious - who is this LECOM? Well, it is ranked #`134 out of 170 plus med schools in the US and Puerto Rico (and behind all of the PR schools). It's average GPA of incoming students is the lowest of all published schools at 2.7. Tuition at $30K is low, but only $4K lower than UB (and their GPA is more than 1 point lower than UB's). So lets do the math - 3 years of tuition saved (if you can really graduate in 3 years) = around $100K saved - maybe but probably not. Can you finish a 6 year program in 3 years in any discipline? Theoretically - yes, probably - no. How well is their degree accepted by employers who pay six figures? It is like graduating from a low end law school - the best jobs do not go to those graduates. In summary, buyer beware in my opinion.
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Post by f45rpm on Jul 1, 2015 8:23:35 GMT -5
Just to be clear, Bonas already has a program in place with LECOM although it is a 3 plus 3 program. If you think that the LECOM program is so bad you should take that up with Sister Margaret and have her drop the affiliation. I believe the one point you are missing is that much of all pharmacy is automated and computerized during these times and it doesn't matter if you graduate with a 3.5 or a 2.8, you are still hired at the same starting salary no matter what pharmacy school you graduate. There is such a shortage of pharmacists that in my opinion it behooves one to get in the work force as soon as possible. Another pertinent point is that a major part of pharmacy is more related to personal skills in relating to customers than to where you graduated from or what your final GPA was. I only offer this up as advice as a person that was in the pharmaceutical business for over 38 years.
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Post by Pinnum on Jul 1, 2015 8:35:31 GMT -5
In re: to local pharmacy programs, there is a wonderful one at LECOM in Erie PA--with the right science based background you can transfer in there as a junior and graduate in 3 years. You go to school pretty much year round for those 3 years including internships etc and come out making well into 6 figures, probably about a quarter of a million dollar head start vs. starting at Bonas and transferring to UB--also, if you don't like the weather etc in Erie, they have another campus in Florida Your post made me curious - who is this LECOM? Well, it is ranked #`134 out of 170 plus med schools in the US and Puerto Rico (and behind all of the PR schools). It's average GPA of incoming students is the lowest of all published schools at 2.7. Tuition at $30K is low, but only $4K lower than UB (and their GPA is more than 1 point lower than UB's). So lets do the math - 3 years of tuition saved (if you can really graduate in 3 years) = around $100K saved - maybe but probably not. Can you finish a 6 year program in 3 years in any discipline? Theoretically - yes, probably - no. How well is their degree accepted by employers who pay six figures? It is like graduating from a low end law school - the best jobs do not go to those graduates. In summary, buyer beware in my opinion. All Medical Schools in the United States are good schools. Pharmacy is not much different since most graduates work as retail pharmacists, and certification is what matters, the school one gets their PharmD is not that important.
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Post by bbb on Jul 2, 2015 14:37:05 GMT -5
Leaving college after you junior year is like leaving a party at 11PM. It should be 4/3. Not 3/4 Maybe the "comportment" clause comes into play here. It is pharmacy school we are talking about after all. Yeah, I talked to my sister, who is a pharmacist, and she said they definitely have to be in pharmacy school 4 years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2015 5:36:45 GMT -5
I don't think some of you get it. We are hurting for enrollment big time. If we don't do things like this in ten years there won't be an SBU. We need MORE agreements with schools.
Having an agreement with LECOM is great.. Having one with the Harvard Medical School would be awesome, but I don't think they are looking for a 4 + 3 deal with small Catholic schools.
Whoever put this together on the SBU end great job!
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Post by thesenator on Jul 5, 2015 7:56:01 GMT -5
I don't think some of you get it. We are hurting for enrollment big time. If we don't do things like this in ten years there won't be an SBU. We need MORE agreements with schools. Having an agreement with LECOM is great.. Having one with the Harvard Medical School would be awesome, but I don't think they are looking for a 4 + 3 deal with small Catholic schools. Whoever put this together on the SBU end great job! i share your concern, bona87, that enough people in our bona family don't seem to get (or care?) that our enrollment decline of the last number of years is a problem...big time...i think it's just about gotten to the point that someone of the stature of sr margaret or bob daugherty has to flat out state "if our enrollment doesn't reach x number of students within the next x years, st bonaventure university will have to close"...i'm thinking that's the only way more people in the bona family are going to join those who are already doing what they can to keep bonas alive...
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Post by jh on Jul 5, 2015 18:10:54 GMT -5
Senator - I'm sure you are well intentioned - but PLEASE STOP with the casual ideas the school will be shutting down/closing Honestly - WTF you think that does to recruiting efforts? both scholarship and non-scholarship? The very things you cherish..
Please keep your misguided paranoia off a public board where it can easily be mis-interpeted by prospective families
The school is going NOWHERE !! We have been here since 1856 and will be in 2056..... Shut the front door !
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