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Post by sneakers on Oct 9, 2015 10:38:01 GMT -5
Are there any NCAA regulations governing alcohol sales at games? I always thought there were. I know in Boston the "Beanpot" college hockey tournament at the Garden allows beer sales, while beer sales at games played at the college rinks does not happen outside of the suites. I was told it was because that tournament is not NCAA sanctioned (it actually doesn't count in the win/loss record of BC, BU, HArvard and Northeastern). Not sure that is true anymore (or that it ever was true).
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Post by Pinnum on Oct 9, 2015 11:07:23 GMT -5
Are there any NCAA regulations governing alcohol sales at games? I always thought there were. I know in Boston the "Beanpot" college hockey tournament at the Garden allows beer sales, while beer sales at games played at the college rinks does not happen outside of the suites. I was told it was because that tournament is not NCAA sanctioned (it actually doesn't count in the win/loss record of BC, BU, HArvard and Northeastern). Not sure that is true anymore (or that it ever was true). Schools are free to make their own policies regarding alcohol. Most schools have traditionally not sold it and have only reserved it for certain off campus games (like Blue Cross). The only policies restricting alcohol apply to events put on by the NCAA. So this includes the NCAA Tournament, NIT, and Pre-season NIT. But even those events technically allow for alcohol sales, they only restrict the sale from the general public. I have purchased beers at the NCAA championships but they only open the bars in the suite level and boxes. They consider those levels to be private use so they exempt them from the rule. Beanpot games do count on the records.
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Post by chuckiemaggio on Oct 9, 2015 13:07:46 GMT -5
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Post by bbb on Oct 9, 2015 13:17:28 GMT -5
I've been to numerous games at the Dayton arena, among other that served alcohol, never saw a problem (we're talking college basketball, not football). In fact the only memorable episode that I can recall over the years was a while back when a busload of students from Bonaventure pulled up right out in from the Palumbo Center for a game with the Dukes. They literally rolled out of the bus onto the sidewalk. I don't think they were even permitted to go in for the game. I really haven't seen any drunken episodes at hoops games at the Carrier Dome, either, and they have their "Dome Foams"
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Post by towniegrad on Oct 9, 2015 15:22:35 GMT -5
In today's bv Kennedy is quoted as saying average student attendance last year was 600 per game. Don't know the origin of that stat,but it is Weak. Beer sales won,t help it
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Post by thesenator on Oct 9, 2015 15:56:01 GMT -5
In today's bv Kennedy is quoted as saying average student attendance last year was 600 per game. Don't know the origin of that stat,but it is Weak. Beer sales won,t help it if they do sell beer, i would like it to see it sold to those in the "red seats" (alums and locals)...i don't see getting any extra students coming to the games just so they could buy a beer...but the issue of how to get more students to the game is something i'd like to see addressed and, hopefully, the ad already has some ideas ready to put in place to do just that...
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Post by rf1 on Oct 9, 2015 21:49:46 GMT -5
In today's bv Kennedy is quoted as saying average student attendance last year was 600 per game. Don't know the origin of that stat,but it is Weak. Beer sales won,t help it Is 33% of the total student undergraduate enrollment really weak? You have to consider the fact that there are far less students at the school now than years ago. There are entire dorm floors that are vacant from what I have read.
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Post by thesenator on Oct 10, 2015 9:23:57 GMT -5
In today's bv Kennedy is quoted as saying average student attendance last year was 600 per game. Don't know the origin of that stat,but it is Weak. Beer sales won,t help it Is 33% of the total student undergraduate enrollment really weak? You have to consider the fact that there are far less students at the school now than years ago. There are entire dorm floors that are vacant from what I have read. good point, rf1...there are a lot of schools that would love to have 33% of their students go their games (of course, with the bigger schools, they don't have arenas big enough to hold 33% of their students)...unfortunately, rf1, not only are entire dorm floors vacant, francis hall no longer houses any students...only the first floor is being utilized, and that for offices...
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Post by bonaman2013 on Oct 10, 2015 12:17:23 GMT -5
Did someone really just say selling beers at games wouldn't increase student attendance? It most certainly would. Not everyone is a basketball fan, so if you sold beer at games it would attract more of the casual student fans who want to have fun with their students and have a few beers.
Where do you think everyone goes at halftime? The library?
There's a few major reasons why student attendance is a bit lower. Obviously student attendance is way lower than year's past, but also more and more student live off campus. If students want to have a few drinks and then go to the game from off campus, are they really going to walk from 1st St to the game in winter weather? No way. They can just drink at their house and watch the game on TV or online.
I think they have a bus that goes to the Burton before the game, but maybe they could add a few more stops. Same thing goes with the townhouses at the end of campus. And it also doesn't help that you can stream the games online when you are on campus. I know you can't really block it out, but you would probably get a few more fans if the games were blocked out on campus..
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Post by thesenator on Oct 10, 2015 13:57:40 GMT -5
Did someone really just say selling beers at games wouldn't increase student attendance? It most certainly would. Not everyone is a basketball fan, so if you sold beer at games it would attract more of the casual student fans who want to have fun with their students and have a few beers. Where do you think everyone goes at halftime? The library? There's a few major reasons why student attendance is a bit lower. Obviously student attendance is way lower than year's past, but also more and more student live off campus. If students want to have a few drinks and then go to the game from off campus, are they really going to walk from 1st St to the game in winter weather? No way. They can just drink at their house and watch the game on TV or online. I think they have a bus that goes to the Burton before the game, but maybe they could add a few more stops. Same thing goes with the townhouses at the end of campus. And it also doesn't help that you can stream the games online when you are on campus. I know you can't really block it out, but you would probably get a few more fans if the games were blocked out on campus.. thanks for the input, '13...i think you suggested a reason why student attendance is not as high as we would hope (although i think 33% is pretty good, because we're so small we need a larger % at the games)...and that is that students can watch the game online...so i think the challenge for the ad (and i think he knows this) is to make the experience for the students more enjoyable so that more students will come...that will sound like heresy for some of us old-timers who didn't need any extra enticements to go watch the bonnies play but, in this day and age, i think that's the way it is...
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Post by nyc02 on Oct 10, 2015 14:06:27 GMT -5
If I am not mistaken when a school owns the building serving alcohol is not permitted. Cuse gets away with it as they do not own The Dome.
There are some good ideas thrown out here and I think the focus should be encouraging ticket holders, staff, alumni to visit the Rathskeller before the game.
Problem is if you have one bartender and you are not ready for 100+ thirsty and hungry b-ball fans all will remember their experience and not return if its negative which it always seems to be.
Leverage the Rathskeller Pre/Post game offering drinks and food, but get organized first to cater to so many visitors.
Go Bonas!!!
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Post by 123Rob on Oct 10, 2015 14:38:16 GMT -5
NYC... It is my understanding that the rule was no alcohol sales to general public at ON campus sporting events but that rule was challenged and changed. SU asked and received a waiver for the Dome when it was built. My suggestion to better utilize the Skellar presumed that they would be fully staffed.
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Post by fan4ever on Oct 10, 2015 14:47:18 GMT -5
Fully utilize and properly staff the Rathskellar for before, during half-time and after each game. Besides beer offer some food items......including hot dogs that exceed the size of the buns.
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Post by thebonafan08 on Oct 12, 2015 13:43:43 GMT -5
Just chasing revenue can lead to a lot of negatives that can actually accelerate a downward trend. Good luck driving that point home.... It is Not just just sell beer more money, more revenue,, or ya know the other revenue enhancer we are implementing. Raising long term real reliable revenue that grows year after year is way more complicated than 2+2=4. I for one am looking for real solutions not short term gimmicks like selling beer or the other thing.
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Post by fan4ever on Oct 12, 2015 15:42:55 GMT -5
The real solution is to increase enrollment to 2,100+ undergrads. The University infrastructure will support that number and then some. The real solution to get to the real solution is for Sister Margaret to retire and a dynamic, outside-the-box thinking new Prez brought in who can get the enrollment job done. The entire University community was badly hurt by Wickenheiser....... to the point that 10 years later it seems that there is a gun-shy vibe emanating from the Board over replacing Sister Margaret with someone who is much more forward thinking and results oriented. Perhaps the Board needs to go through the exercise of formally resetting and reframing its outlook and expectations in the context of proactively moving SBU vigorously ahead and finally purging the hesitant,apprehensive post-scandal undertone that somehow still exists.
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