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Post by thebonafan08 on Oct 14, 2015 0:50:30 GMT -5
The real solution is to increase enrollment to 2,100+ undergrads. The University infrastructure will support that number and then some. The real solution to get to the real solution is for Sister Margaret to retire and a dynamic, outside-the-box thinking new Prez brought in who can get the enrollment job done. The entire University community was badly hurt by Wickenheiser....... to the point that 10 years later it seems that there is a gun-shy vibe emanating from the Board over replacing Sister Margaret with someone who is much more forward thinking and results oriented. Perhaps the Board needs to go through the exercise of formally resetting and reframing its outlook and expectations in the context of proactively moving SBU vigorously ahead and finally purging the hesitant,apprehensive post-scandal undertone that somehow still exists. While I have no specific tangible complaints about the job Sister Margaret has done it seems with enrollment steadily declining under her supervision...its time to make a move. We need to start with acknowledging by far our biggest revenue generator : Enrollment Once that is established every head of every department needs to come together and create a plan how they are going to use their department to increase enrollment, in other words as president I would want to know every 2 weeks so far down as to what the head of maintenance is doing to get more students to enroll at Bonaventure. It needs to be all hand on deck, no one gets a pass. Every decision big or small every department makes needs to be a decision that will make Bona's more attractive to prospective students, nothing else should matter and this needs to be stressed in every department.
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Post by Pinnum on Oct 14, 2015 7:09:15 GMT -5
Once that is established every head of every department needs to come together and create a plan how they are going to use their department to increase enrollment, in other words as president I would want to know every 2 weeks so far down as to what the head of maintenance is doing to get more students to enroll at Bonaventure. It needs to be all hand on deck, no one gets a pass. That's actually very important. That is one of the most visible things to prospective students and their parents. Some schools excel and some under perform in this category and it really does make a significant impact. However, my experience has been positive in that regard...
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Post by thesenator on Oct 14, 2015 8:26:38 GMT -5
speaking of departments, i'd be curious to know what the enrollment figures have been in the science majors since the upgrasding of the facilities there...or in the business majors since swan was built...i'm not saying these upgrades shouldn't have happened...i think it's important to upgrade/add new facilities as needed...what i am suggesting is that if we thought a new and/or upgraded facility alone was going to spur an uptick in enrollment, maybe we swung and missed on that assumption...
as far as every department doing everything it can to spur enrollment in their area, absolutely...that seems to me to be a no-brainer...to what degree is it being done, and how often is each department being monitored for this, i haven't a clue...but if it's not being done and/or monitored, today's a good day to get started...
finally, and maybe on this board this point needs to be emphasized: no more bonas...no more bonnies basketball...worrying about bonnies basketball while the school continues to drop in enrollment year after year is like worrying about what topping you're gonna have on your dessert when you don't have the money to buy a slice of bread...
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Post by sony on Oct 14, 2015 8:28:20 GMT -5
Simple,concise & totally on target bonafan! Additionally, as with any organizations goals and objectives, metrics need to be established and the responsible parties held accountable for the results.
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Post by sony on Oct 14, 2015 8:30:10 GMT -5
Senator - "all great minds think alike"!
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Post by fan4ever on Oct 14, 2015 9:48:58 GMT -5
Every department working to the absolute max to increase enrollment is critical. Besides the departments each component of the SBU community needs to follow suit. That would include the Board of Trustees, alumni and yes, students. A new Prez coupled with a formal, large-scale, inclusive 5 year increased enrollment campaign would be a super way to go. Besides the new buildings for Business and Science...new, non-articulated, totally in-house majors in nursing, engineering, physical therapy, sports management and physician assistant would be wonderful. BTW....if the annual cost to attend SBU is around $18,500 then that's the number that should be advertised and marketed and not the $43,000 that no one pays. And lowering the annual cost to say, $17,500 and then absolutely trumpeting SBU as the lowest cost public or private 4 year college in NYS would seem to me to be a marketing coup.
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Post by tastylicks on Oct 14, 2015 10:31:24 GMT -5
D amn guys this is a thread about beer not enrollment. We all know enrollment is an issue, we discuss it over and over... And over. We need beer to help with coping with the issue!
Seriously though selling beer at the games doesn't have to be the overarching strategy to a booming St. Bonas. It could just be a nice service provided to loyal fans that like to drink beer and maybe it will make a dime or two for the school. Not every thread/issue needs to turn into a discussion of enrollment!!
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Post by Pinnum on Oct 14, 2015 11:06:18 GMT -5
BTW....if the annual cost to attend SBU is around $18,500 then that's the number that should be advertised and marketed and not the $43,000 that no one pays. And lowering the annual cost to say, $17,500 and then absolutely trumpeting SBU as the lowest cost public or private 4 year college in NYS would seem to me to be a marketing coup. No, there are people that pay the full cost.
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Post by thesenator on Oct 14, 2015 12:30:00 GMT -5
D amn guys this is a thread about beer not enrollment. We all know enrollment is an issue, we discuss it over and over... And over. We need beer to help with coping with the issue! Seriously though selling beer at the games doesn't have to be the overarching strategy to a booming St. Bonas. It could just be a nice service provided to loyal fans that like to drink beer and maybe it will make a dime or two for the school. Not every thread/issue needs to turn into a discussion of enrollment!! i hope to be around long enough to be sitting in the reds, drinking a cold beer...maybe even around long enough to see a grandkid down in the student cheering section, part of a student body numbering 2,000 or more...when the issue of declining enrollment is a long-gone chapter in bona history, like the barns burning or the scandal...
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Post by fan4ever on Oct 14, 2015 14:27:31 GMT -5
BTW....if the annual cost to attend SBU is around $18,500 then that's the number that should be advertised and marketed and not the $43,000 that no one pays. And lowering the annual cost to say, $17,500 and then absolutely trumpeting SBU as the lowest cost public or private 4 year college in NYS would seem to me to be a marketing coup. No, there are people that pay the full cost. I would have to believe that those paying the full $43,000 are very few. SBU should cap the annual tuition/room and board at $17,500 and heavily market that number as the lowest 4 year college annual cost in NYS...be itpublic or private college. What I believe would result is a significant increase in enrollment which would translate into a solid revenue stream via "product turn" (selling many products at a lesser cost vs. selling a lesser number of products at a higher cost). The infrastructure is already in place to accommodate a large increase in enrollment. The other positive side of a really low annual cost is that the super amenities available at some competing colleges are easily understandable as not being available at SBU because of SBU's heavily discounted annual cost.
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Post by Pinnum on Oct 14, 2015 14:51:18 GMT -5
No, there are people that pay the full cost. I would have to believe that those paying the full $43,000 are very few. SBU should cap the annual tuition/room and board at $17,500 and heavily market that number as the lowest 4 year college annual cost in NYS...be itpublic or private college. What I believe would result is a significant increase in enrollment which would translate into a solid revenue stream via "product turn" (selling many products at a lesser cost vs. selling a lesser number of products at a higher cost). The infrastructure is already in place to accommodate a large increase in enrollment. The other positive side of a really low annual cost is that the super amenities available at some competing colleges are easily understandable as not being available at SBU because of SBU's heavily discounted annual cost. It would be devastating if enrollment targets were ever missed... That is much higher risk for just a marketing campaign. As I said in the other thread.. bonabandwagon.proboards.com/post/128358/thread
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Post by class70 on Oct 14, 2015 16:20:16 GMT -5
BTW....if the annual cost to attend SBU is around $18,500 then that's the number that should be advertised and marketed and not the $43,000 that no one pays. And lowering the annual cost to say, $17,500 and then absolutely trumpeting SBU as the lowest cost public or private 4 year college in NYS would seem to me to be a marketing coup. No, there are people that pay the full cost. Right, Pinnum, and it's the rationale I used to negotiate free room and board for the ROTC cadets at Utica College. My argument to the President was this: "Look, the government is paying 100% of your list price on tuition for these kids, which practically nobody else pays. You are discriminating against our country's future if you don't cut them a break." Being a reasonable man, he agreed.
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