|
Post by thebonafan08 on Dec 12, 2018 9:35:07 GMT -5
Guys can we end it? Students time to time are going to step out of line, the Prez is going to write this letter. The only thing wrong or a point of contention is DePerro bringing up sexual harassment. This mention with no investigation is either stupid or he knows it’s not a real claim and is looking for points of emphasis in a cheap unauthentic way. He should be better than that. Time to move on. We are talking about Free Speech? Give me a break.
|
|
|
Post by bigmick on Dec 12, 2018 10:28:30 GMT -5
Who remembers the placards that the Griffs used to hold up in the Aud 50 years ago or so that read "BUCK FONA"? Wonder what their president thought of that?
|
|
|
Post by derhut on Dec 12, 2018 11:40:58 GMT -5
my, how times have changed
in the early to late 70s, it was very common during both the freshman and varsity games to hear the different dorm floors yell SABO back and forth - the blue coats heard it and chuckled...the reds were clueless. Always a 3 ring circus when little 3 rivals came to town..but the griff fans were the most vile. they would storm the RC ready to fight - and fight they did...
|
|
|
Post by firstdev on Dec 12, 2018 14:52:36 GMT -5
I agree with the President that the students sometimes go overboard with their chants......but this is not unusual.....fifty years ago we chanted the same thing about the Golden Griffs, or the Purple Eagles or the Wildcats. My point is that these kids are merely blowing off some steam, as students have done for time immemorial. That being said administrators will of course react to such conduct as somehow reflective of a need to crack down on the students. Its not going to change. Time to move on from this issue....censorship is not an option in our society. Free speech may be messy, but the alternative is much worse...... Firstdev - would your opinion change if we still had our old president. Are you referring to Sister Margaret Hilbert?
|
|
|
Post by Cassian on Dec 12, 2018 22:17:00 GMT -5
Stop!!!
|
|
|
Post by CoachSBU on Dec 13, 2018 13:25:23 GMT -5
I agree with the F bombs should not be used - distasteful, coming from a Catholic institution, etc. (in defense of the Students, it is not totally their fault because Buffalo's initials are U B. So it is so easy to put another letter in front of the U) (I jest). Can we still say SU(cks)? - cause they do. The "F-bombs" were being used last season before the Niagara game and I mentioned something about it here and that it DOESN'T HELP our players either. The priority is that it is CLASSLESS and UNNECESSARY but it also serves NO PURPOSE unless we are trying to RILE up the OPPOSITION. That being said, a FULL INVESTIGATION should be done regarding the 15 year old, too....THAT is inexcusable if the parent's accusations aren't baseless....
|
|
|
Post by CoachSBU on Dec 13, 2018 13:30:25 GMT -5
I am not in favor of suppressing free speech. I am in favor of SBU students and fans conducting themselves in a manner reflecting my Alma Mater. So, I would suggest this: be loud, be boisterous, be creative....and do all this as if your parents, and maybe your younger siblings were sitting next to you in the crowd. Several years ago at an SBU away game at Siena, a Saints fan seated several rows behind us (we were courtside) pleaded with Fran McCaffery to change defenses coming out of time out. Fran wheeled around and shouted “STFU!” at the fan. The arena was fairly quiet at the moment. I had my gradeschool-aged daughter with me. It was awkward, embarrassing and inappropriate. Wrong for a coach and wrong for students and fans. Not reflective of these two schools values, culture and history. But, of course, they are free to say it. And anyone is free to criticize it. Well said, Ocean State Bonnie....Well said!!!!
|
|
|
Post by firstdev on Dec 13, 2018 14:30:47 GMT -5
I agree with the F bombs should not be used - distasteful, coming from a Catholic institution, etc. (in defense of the Students, it is not totally their fault because Buffalo's initials are U B. So it is so easy to put another letter in front of the U) (I jest). Can we still say SU(cks)? - cause they do. The "F-bombs" were being used last season before the Niagara game and I mentioned something about it here and that it DOESN'T HELP our players either. The priority is that it is CLASSLESS and UNNECESSARY but it also serves NO PURPOSE unless we are trying to RILE up the OPPOSITION. That being said, a FULL INVESTIGATION should be done regarding the 15 year old, too....THAT is inexcusable if the parent's accusations aren't baseless.... Oh please give me a break, a FULL INVESTIGATION? Of what - a group of drunken students shouting at other drunken students? The ultimate in politically correct non sense. I am sure this co ed has heard the f bomb before. Ever listen to a group of teen age girls speaking these days - you would think they were in the Navy. No one is a virgin here - move on. Or maybe we should hire Sister Margaret Hilbert to act as a language censor - ah yes the self appointed political correctness guru of all time.
|
|
|
Post by fjs64 on Dec 13, 2018 14:54:24 GMT -5
The "F-bombs" were being used last season before the Niagara game and I mentioned something about it here and that it DOESN'T HELP our players either. The priority is that it is CLASSLESS and UNNECESSARY but it also serves NO PURPOSE unless we are trying to RILE up the OPPOSITION. That being said, a FULL INVESTIGATION should be done regarding the 15 year old, too....THAT is inexcusable if the parent's accusations aren't baseless.... Oh please give me a break, a FULL INVESTIGATION? Of what - a group of drunken students shouting at other drunken students? The ultimate in politically correct non sense. I am sure this co ed has heard the f bomb before. Ever listen to a group of teen age girls speaking these days - you would think they were in the Navy. No one is a virgin here - move on. Or maybe we should hire Sister Margaret Hilbert to act as a language censor - ah yes the self appointed political correctness guru of all time. At times firstdev you should listen to yourself......this was not a coed, it was a 15 year old attending the game. Yes, it should be investigated. And your ongoing "hate" of Sr Margaret needs to stop, just don't have to continue your rant, she is no longer President.
|
|
|
Post by fan4ever on Dec 13, 2018 15:36:16 GMT -5
President DePerro is doing an awesome job and is the best SBU Prez since Father Reginald in the late 1960's. This guy has asked for very little and has accomplished a whole lot in his short time at the helm of SBU. How about just giving him a hand and curbing the foul language at games? That's all he is asking. The harassment of the adolescent girl is another matter and is very serious. This matter needs to be thoroughly investigated and the abuser(s) disciplined. BTW....it is the POLICY of SBU that there is zero tolerance for harassment of any sort. President DePerro is simply enforcing that SBU POLICY as his CEO position mandates.
|
|
|
Post by firstdev on Dec 13, 2018 20:05:15 GMT -5
. Oh please give me a break, a FULL INVESTIGATION? Of what - a group of drunken students shouting at other drunken students? The ultimate in politically correct non sense. I am sure this co ed has heard the f bomb before. Ever listen to a group of teen age girls speaking these days - you would think they were in the Navy. No one is a virgin here - move on. Or maybe we should hire Sister Margaret Hilbert to act as a language censor - ah yes the self appointed political correctness guru of all time. At times firstdev you should listen to yourself......this was not a coed, it was a 15 year old attending the game. Yes, it should be investigated. And your ongoing "hate" of Sr Margaret needs to stop, just don't have to continue your rant, she is no longer President. Sexual harassment initiated by 600 students fans of a 15 year old student? Are you kidding? Get a grip. Rubbish....... absolute political correct rubbish. Has there ever been a time in the history of the Armory or the UC/RC when the student body has not chanted some edgy lyrics? Give it a rest - we do not not need the thought police patrolling the student stands. Full investigation.....again Sister Margaret Hilbert is always available for that kind of far left mission. Maybe she can call in each student fan and interrogate them about their use of the English language -would you like that? Reminds me of the time she ordered a complete room sweep looking for .....get this...oh my...cans of legal beverages........ Sister Margaret is fair game, just like any other former president for the policies and failures they implemented. If you want her to get a pass because of her record that is your opinion and I respect it. Facts are that four more years with the Ft Duquesne crew would have wrecked this university . OMG thanks for transitions - the last two presidents have been a breath of fresh air - this particular case of over-reaction not included. By the way a common tactic of the far left speech censors is to invoke hate whenever you disagree with another point of view - its repressive and regressive.
|
|
|
Post by agoo on Dec 13, 2018 22:38:34 GMT -5
. At times firstdev you should listen to yourself......this was not a coed, it was a 15 year old attending the game. Yes, it should be investigated. And your ongoing "hate" of Sr Margaret needs to stop, just don't have to continue your rant, she is no longer President. Sexual harassment initiated by 600 students fans of a 15 year old student? Are you kidding? Get a grip. Rubbish....... absolute political correct rubbish. Has there ever been a time in the history of the Armory or the UC/RC when the student body has not chanted some edgy lyrics? Give it a rest - we do not not need the thought police patrolling the student stands. Full investigation.....again Sister Margaret Hilbert is always available for that kind of far left mission. Maybe she can call in each student fan and interrogate them about their use of the English language -would you like that? Reminds me of the time she ordered a complete room sweep looking for .....get this...oh my...cans of legal beverages........ Sister Margaret is fair game, just like any other former president for the policies and failures they implemented. If you want her to get a pass because of her record that is your opinion and I respect it. Facts are that four more years with the Ft Duquesne crew would have wrecked this university . OMG thanks for transitions - the last two presidents have been a breath of fresh air - this particular case of over-reaction not included. By the way a common tactic of the far left speech censors is to invoke hate whenever you disagree with another point of view - its repressive and regressive. So you’re pro-sexual harassment of minors?
|
|
|
Post by thebonafan08 on Dec 13, 2018 23:50:31 GMT -5
This thread......
|
|
|
Post by firstdev on Dec 14, 2018 7:26:55 GMT -5
. Sexual harassment initiated by 600 students fans of a 15 year old student? Are you kidding? Get a grip. Rubbish....... absolute political correct rubbish. Has there ever been a time in the history of the Armory or the UC/RC when the student body has not chanted some edgy lyrics? Give it a rest - we do not not need the thought police patrolling the student stands. Full investigation.....again Sister Margaret Hilbert is always available for that kind of far left mission. Maybe she can call in each student fan and interrogate them about their use of the English language -would you like that? Reminds me of the time she ordered a complete room sweep looking for .....get this...oh my...cans of legal beverages........ Sister Margaret is fair game, just like any other former president for the policies and failures they implemented. If you want her to get a pass because of her record that is your opinion and I respect it. Facts are that four more years with the Ft Duquesne crew would have wrecked this university . OMG thanks for transitions - the last two presidents have been a breath of fresh air - this particular case of over-reaction not included. By the way a common tactic of the far left speech censors is to invoke hate whenever you disagree with another point of view - its repressive and regressive. So you’re pro-sexual harassment of minors? There is absolutely no evidence that there was any sexual harassment of a teenage girl at the game. Much ado about nothing. Move on.
|
|
|
Post by Bona84 on Dec 14, 2018 7:46:21 GMT -5
. Sexual harassment initiated by 600 students fans of a 15 year old student? Are you kidding? Get a grip. Rubbish....... absolute political correct rubbish. Has there ever been a time in the history of the Armory or the UC/RC when the student body has not chanted some edgy lyrics? Give it a rest - we do not not need the thought police patrolling the student stands. Full investigation.....again Sister Margaret Hilbert is always available for that kind of far left mission. Maybe she can call in each student fan and interrogate them about their use of the English language -would you like that? Reminds me of the time she ordered a complete room sweep looking for .....get this...oh my...cans of legal beverages........ Sister Margaret is fair game, just like any other former president for the policies and failures they implemented. If you want her to get a pass because of her record that is your opinion and I respect it. Facts are that four more years with the Ft Duquesne crew would have wrecked this university . OMG thanks for transitions - the last two presidents have been a breath of fresh air - this particular case of over-reaction not included. By the way a common tactic of the far left speech censors is to invoke hate whenever you disagree with another point of view - its repressive and regressive. So you’re pro-sexual harassment of minors? You know, I used to think that I wouldn’t find anything posted here by firstdev to be unbelievable. But, I was wrong. I also can’t believe that he was educated at Bona’s.
|
|