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Post by bjif on Nov 22, 2009 10:29:27 GMT -5
For those interested, former Bonnie Matt Morgan is listed as a 6'9-235 center on the Winthrop Basketball squad.
His stats are a modest 5.3ppg and 4.7rpg in 3 games with 1 start.
I always thought this kid had potential. Other than grades, not sure what the problem was if any.
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Post by jh on Nov 22, 2009 11:23:45 GMT -5
I see 5'7 Canisius PG Frank Turner pumped in 27 last night vs St Francis...this kid wanted SBU but the brilliant Sol instead offered to juco Jermain Calvin...who lasted here 1 year
Turners game is similar to Shandue mcneils
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Post by Sipowicz on Nov 22, 2009 12:17:31 GMT -5
Also, HILLARY HALEY is at 13.5 points a game while shooting 37% from 3 pt land at UMES, while JEFF FOOTE at CORNELL is at 11.5 points and 8.5 rebounds a game.
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Post by Chuck on Nov 22, 2009 12:59:00 GMT -5
It was debated on this board, was it Solomon's coaching or Solomon's recruiting? I think we finally know the answer. Look at the dramatic improvements in the senior years for Michael Lee and Tyler Relph with Schmidt as their coach.
Does anyone honestly believe Malcolm, DaQuan and Morgan would have developed into A-10 level players under Solomon? Malcolm is slowly improving and DaQuan is starting to become a legitimate A-10 power forward. Surprisingly it was Morgan who won three A-10 Rookie of the Week awards. Extremely doubt any of the three would have promising futures if Solomon was still coach of the Bonnies.
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Post by fjs64 on Nov 22, 2009 13:01:19 GMT -5
Sip----more info on Foote....a couple of days ago Cornell beat UMass, 74-61, Foote went 2-4, 9 rebounds, 2 blocks and 10 points. I am hoping that Brett will be a better Foote.
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Post by LumsdnA10Academc98 on Nov 23, 2009 0:45:47 GMT -5
Does anyone honestly believe Malcolm, DaQuan and Morgan would have developed into A-10 level players under Solomon? Malcolm is slowly improving and DaQuan is starting to become a legitimate A-10 power forward. Just to be clear, none have done so yet regardless of their coach. Morgan showed signs, as Cook has lately, but that's about as close as any has come to proving A-10 caliber. Eleby has been below A-10 league-average his entire career and hasn't made notable improvements at all.
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Post by Copenhagen on Nov 23, 2009 8:57:59 GMT -5
how's Jourdan Morris doing at High Point?
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Post by bartmitchell on Nov 23, 2009 10:12:26 GMT -5
Haley has cooled a bit after coming out of the gate very fast. He's shooting 5 for 32 in his last 3 games. And I think MES is now like 0-5. He showed some ability while at Bonas. I wish the young man well.
I wonder what the deal was with Morgan at Bonas. Was it all a question of work ethic ? Because I think that young man has some potential. If things had worked out with him I think he would be our starting 4 this year and a real nice compliment to Andrew. Don't think he was a guy who wanted to 'do the dirty work', fighting for rebounds, etc. Then again he's only averaging a handful of points and rebounds this year against the likes of Limestone (yes, THE Limestone) and SCU. (that would be South Carolina Upstate, not South Carolina) so who knows.
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Post by GoPadres on Nov 23, 2009 10:22:49 GMT -5
Does anyone honestly believe Malcolm, DaQuan and Morgan would have developed into A-10 level players under Solomon? Malcolm is slowly improving and DaQuan is starting to become a legitimate A-10 power forward. Just to be clear, none have done so yet regardless of their coach. Morgan showed signs, as Cook has lately, but that's about as close as any has come to proving A-10 caliber. Eleby has been below A-10 league-average his entire career and hasn't made notable improvements at all. Eleby is starting his second full season as Bonas starting point guard. The team has gone 17-16 during that stretch. Wins and losses are the most important statistics, so I am certainly satisfied with his development.
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Post by keplerjd on Nov 23, 2009 11:54:44 GMT -5
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Post by adolphlottin on Nov 23, 2009 11:55:08 GMT -5
Just to be clear, none have done so yet regardless of their coach. Morgan showed signs, as Cook has lately, but that's about as close as any has come to proving A-10 caliber. Eleby has been below A-10 league-average his entire career and hasn't made notable improvements at all. Eleby is starting his second full season as Bonas starting point guard. The team has gone 17-16 during that stretch. Wins and losses are the most important statistics, so I am certainly satisfied with his development. Agreed. Also remember that Cook is still a sophomore, which is usually the year players start to get it. I expect more improvement out of him as the year goes on.
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Post by mcspin on Nov 23, 2009 13:26:56 GMT -5
Eleby is starting his second full season as Bonas starting point guard. The team has gone 17-16 during that stretch. Wins and losses are the most important statistics, so I am certainly satisfied with his development. So, what you want to convince us is that Eleby is making good progress because of the team record? I suppose Marcus Green sucked - because of the team record? I'm not biting. Wins and losses are a team statistic. Eleby is not even an average A-10 guard. His progress has been way less than impressive in my opinion. Maybe we should pin this on Schmidt instead of crediting or discrediting the player?
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Post by GoPadres on Nov 23, 2009 15:15:17 GMT -5
Eleby is starting his second full season as Bonas starting point guard. The team has gone 17-16 during that stretch. Wins and losses are the most important statistics, so I am certainly satisfied with his development. So, what you want to convince us is that Eleby is making good progress because of the team record? I suppose Marcus Green sucked - because of the team record? I'm not biting. Wins and losses are a team statistic. Eleby is not even an average A-10 guard. His progress has been way less than impressive in my opinion. Maybe we should pin this on Schmidt instead of crediting or discrediting the player? Certainly not saying that Green sucked. Clearly he was one of the all time Bona greats. Just saying that Eleby is the starting point guard for a team that wins more than it loses. To me, that is the most important statistic to measure his development. This team is doing just fine with Eleby as the starter, so I am not going to try and knock him down.
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Post by adolphlottin on Nov 23, 2009 15:18:29 GMT -5
In my humble opinion, Eleby has faced too much criticism. He may not be a star.
This is what he is: From every account, he is the hardest working player on this team, a leader by example. He was a team captain last season as a sophomore. How often does that happen?
Furthermore, Schmidt has brought in two jucos who have been unable to take minutes from eleby. Ogo has a chance, but through three games he seems like an average pg.
Until, someone shows they're dramatically better, who gets the minutes? Eleby isn't a great play-making guard or a scorer but he does a few things well. He can get in the lane. He uses his size well defenisvely and he's versatile, having also been used as an off guard. Plus, he's a leader. We forget about intangibles. There's obviously a reason Schmidt puts him on the floor.
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Post by Sipowicz on Nov 23, 2009 15:28:02 GMT -5
I don't know if JOURDAN MORRIS is in the new coach's doghouse, injured, or academic reasons but I have not found him listed in the HIGH POINT box scores. Also, I thought DELONTE TAYLOR signed on with UC Riverside but cannot find why he isn't listed on their roster.
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