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Post by bigdobber on Dec 21, 2009 16:05:15 GMT -5
I have read alot of posts and continue to draw the same conclusion regarding Syracuse. Playing them only on their terms is just not worth it. Every play is disected and losing by 12 for many on this board is a "victory" and it just seems like alot of people are just in awe of this program. Boheim will always control the scheduling to his benefit so I would rather meet them in an opening round NCAA game where hopefully a neutral court will level the playing field. There is a big world out there and getting out of upstate New York should be a priority. Would we play Canisius or Niagara only on their home court? Schmidt and Watson need to schedule some ACC, SEC or Big 10 games and use Buffalo as our home court. Also, schedule at least one game in the NYC area other than Fordham so we get some exposure to the NY press which has a few alumns employed. I really think Boheim is laughing at us when he schedules these games. Now we have the invisable punch. Rautins might have got hit but probably took a dive. Look at the boxscore. They were not going to foul Andrew out on personals so devised a little scheme at halftime. Don't these guys wear cups? Oh and for what it is worth. Syracuse will be hard pressed to finish in the top 25 based on what I have seen. They look like a middle of the pack Big East team.
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Post by lazer on Dec 21, 2009 16:41:41 GMT -5
Schmidt and Watson need to schedule some ACC, SEC or Big 10 games and use Buffalo as our home court. Completely agree. What about Notre Dame? Solomon, old Catholic school rivalry. Maryland? Gary Williams' connection with Schmidt. Wake Forest? Schmidt's connection to the late Prosser. BC? Schmidt's alma mater. I'm sure there's a lot more out there, but those are a few that come to my head quickly. Don't these guys wear cups? I've never once in my life heard of a basketball player wearing a cup. Not once. Oh and for what it is worth. Syracuse will be hard pressed to finish in the top 25 based on what I have seen. They look like a middle of the pack Big East team. I've watched almost every second of every game they've played this year, and they're better than they were last year when they lost to Oklahoma in the Sweet 16. They've pummeled everyone they've played - including three (then) top-15 teams. The only way that happens is if Onuaka's injuries keep him out a prolonged time. |
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Post by bigdobber on Dec 21, 2009 17:09:03 GMT -5
Have they gone on the road Lazer or is it a steady diet of home cooking. We play the same game in Olean as last Saturday night, and we win by 5. Nicholson goes for 30 and finishes the game. I'll bet you a dollar that Syracuse finishes 4th or 5th in the Big East at best.
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Post by pepp on Dec 21, 2009 17:14:25 GMT -5
I'd love to see the Bonnies play in the Garden during Andrew's senior year. Pair up with somebody else and make it doubleheader and bring in some BIG name schools, not just a team from a big name conference.
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Post by lazer on Dec 21, 2009 17:42:43 GMT -5
Have they gone on the road Lazer or is it a steady diet of home cooking. We play the same game in Olean as last Saturday night, and we win by 5. Nicholson goes for 30 and finishes the game. I'll bet you a dollar that Syracuse finishes 4th or 5th in the Big East at best. I'm not going to get into a discussion about Syracuse on this board, but they do the same thing every year and they're always one of the best teams in the Big East. They're not the 4th or 5th best team in the conference this year. And the home cooking thing is nothing new. They beat UNC and Cal at not-so-neutral MSG and beat Florida in Tampa, so take that for what it's worth. And I completely agree with you about them playing in Olean. Just look at what Cleveland State did to West Virginia over the weekend. Some coaches like to schedule road games like that - games that you're supposed to win in a hostile environment, but if you don't it's a damaging WTF loss, but Boeheim isn't that guy. And I loathe his decision to be like that because I really think the SU-Bona rivalry could start returning to what it was like in the 70s and 80s if he would ever change, but he's not going to and I can't really say I blame him because it's worked for so long for him. |
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Post by bigdobber on Dec 21, 2009 17:53:39 GMT -5
Cal is 3000 miles away and SU is 350. UNC vs SU would seem more like a neutral court. Would you play Canisius or Niagara on the same terms as SU? Your drinking the Syracuse cool aid lazer. He does it his way and we are all suppose to go along with it. Would Syracuse football play USC every year in LA? AD of Syracuse would size it up for what it is. An automatic loss. Syracuse is a great program but there are other great programs out there. That is my point. Are you on for the dollar? They will be a middle of the pact program once they leave the Carrier dome. We exposed that they have weaknesses and so did Lemoyne. If Rautins is your go to guy your not that good.
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Post by B02 on Dec 21, 2009 18:10:22 GMT -5
Bona will play at SU everytime its asked because if you saw the number of Bona fans at the game its pretty self-explainatory as to why Bona plays SU. We should play SU every year if possible, also Bonas should schedule games in Buffalo or Rochester to get any other BCS conference school to play at a "neutral court"
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Post by bigdobber on Dec 21, 2009 18:12:18 GMT -5
How would a Bona vs Syracuse game in Buffalo draw?
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Post by B02 on Dec 21, 2009 18:19:26 GMT -5
Good, but is it worth it for how much SU would want to play in Buffalo?
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Post by lazer on Dec 21, 2009 18:40:24 GMT -5
Cal is 3000 miles away and SU is 350. UNC vs SU would seem more like a neutral court. Would you play Canisius or Niagara on the same terms as SU? Your drinking the Syracuse cool aid lazer. I said "not-so-neutral MSG," thus implying that it was obviously pro-Syracuse, as it is almost every time it plays there. |
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Post by bigdobber on Dec 21, 2009 18:53:36 GMT -5
Again-lets keep accomodating SU with only games played in the dome. If Boheim doesn't get his way he takes his ball and goes home. Look- they are at the stage where they can get teams to annually take a loss up at Syracuse. I just don't think we should do that. Let's go play a Maryland or a BC like was mentioned earlier. But I want a home game in Buffalo the next year. Is that asking for too much? That is why a conference vs conference week I think is a good idea for schools like Bonaventure. It forces some of these programs that always seem to get their way to get on a plane and play in front of a hostile crowd.
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Post by B02 on Dec 21, 2009 18:55:25 GMT -5
Do you see any top team in the country venture too far away from home in the non-conference? If they do its for a large pay day.
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Post by bigdobber on Dec 21, 2009 19:22:51 GMT -5
Temple did it for years when they were a Top 10 program under Coach Chaney. If we can get a large pay day out of it we should do it. It also made Temple a battle tested squad once the A10 season began and always gave them one of the top strength of schedules of any D1 program. That always helped them when at large spots came up in March.
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Post by B02 on Dec 21, 2009 19:42:30 GMT -5
No offense to Temple, but they are not Duke, UNC, Kansas, Texas, Kentucky, etc...
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Post by triple302 on Dec 22, 2009 10:22:10 GMT -5
No offense to Temple, but they are not Duke, UNC, Kansas, Texas, Kentucky, etc... Lets not forget at the time that they did play that schedule, they were a lot closer to a top tier program. That was aroung the time they came into Olean 2 years in a row ranked in the top 10. Temple was a very very good program for a while. The problem with continuing to play cuse is that no matter where you schedule them in upstate ny, they are going to draw a huge amount of su fans. There are cuse fans in huge amounts everywhere. If they are willing to play us every year, I still think we do it, but I would personally rather see us move on to other big programs in major recruiting areas. Georgetown, St. Johns, Ohio State, Pitt, Cincy, etc. |
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