house
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Post by house on Dec 23, 2009 7:25:28 GMT -5
I think Eli Carter will be on TV tonight on espnU , doesnt he play for St. Benedicts?......might be wrong, but its worth checking out...i will be travelling and unfortunately have to miss it....
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Post by brownindian11 on Dec 23, 2009 7:55:23 GMT -5
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Post by bonaman54 on Dec 23, 2009 7:56:14 GMT -5
I thought he plays for St. Anthony's
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frasier
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Post by frasier on Dec 23, 2009 10:03:56 GMT -5
Eli does play for St. Anthony's. They will need him since they recently lost one of their best big men to an injury. However, I believe that I saw on ESPN that Eli's team will play on ESPN on January 18 or 19 in a tournament. For the moment, his style of offensive play reminds me of Tim Winn. On the other hand, he is supposed to be an outstanding defensive player. I believe that Schmidt got a 3 to 4 year starter in Eli.
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Post by hartford on Dec 23, 2009 10:57:01 GMT -5
For the moment, his style of offensive play reminds me of Tim Winn. On the other hand, he is supposed to be an outstanding defensive player. Tim Winn was an outstanding defensive player, so let's hope we've got clone! |
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Post by njbona02 on Dec 28, 2009 14:18:15 GMT -5
Eli Carter is a tough NJ guard. He will be a strond defensive player and be a leader. Being from Northern NJ I have seen alot of high school bball up there and the kids play a tough no nonsense brand of bball. He will be the leader this team needs.
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Post by maplehurst on Dec 28, 2009 14:33:20 GMT -5
It's great that Eli comes from St. Anthony's, is a tough NJ guard, and plays good defense. That's great. But can he shoot the three pointer? For Bonaventure, no three pointer is pointless.
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Post by West End Stench on Dec 28, 2009 15:26:27 GMT -5
It's great that Eli comes from St. Anthony's, is a tough NJ guard, and plays good defense. That's great. But can he shoot the three pointer? For Bonaventure, no three pointer is pointless. In the two games that I could actually dig up stats on him, Carter had a pair of threes in each (10 and 18 point efforts)... http://************/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3076 |
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Post by LumsdnA10Academc98 on Dec 28, 2009 18:16:32 GMT -5
But can he shoot the three pointer? For Bonaventure, no three pointer is pointless. Allow me to be the first to tell you how incorrect that statement is. You realize that point guards who can defend, convert consistently from three and lead an offense don't exactly grow on trees, right? Right now, we have a point guard teams simply don't have to defend outside of 15 feet. Malcolm Eleby can't even hit - and won't even attempt - wide open 16-17 foot jumpers, which affects the entire offense, which he has no clue how to run. To answer your question, yes, Eli Carter, on top of everything else he has to offer, can shoot the three, and if he couldn't, he'd still be as good or better than what we have. He should be, like was said above, a four-year contributor and almost assuredly a three-year starter. However, the way Schmidt has stuck with Eleby to this point tells me we shouldn't expect to see a ton of Carter until 2011. |
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Post by brownindian11 on Dec 28, 2009 21:18:03 GMT -5
Allow me to be the first to tell you how incorrect that statement is. You realize that point guards who can defend, convert consistently from three and lead an offense don't exactly grow on trees, right?
Right now, we have a point guard teams simply don't have to defend outside of 15 feet. Malcolm Eleby can't even hit - and won't even attempt - wide open 16-17 foot jumpers, which affects the entire offense, which he has no clue how to run.
To answer your question, yes, Eli Carter, on top of everything else he has to offer, can shoot the three, and if he couldn't, he'd still be as good or better than what we have. He should be, like was said above, a four-year contributor and almost assuredly a three-year starter. However, the way Schmidt has stuck with Eleby to this point tells me we shouldn't expect to see a ton of Carter until 2011.
Have to agree with this. We could definetly use a 2 who can stroke the 3 ball, but from what I read I would not say that getting Carter to play the 1 is pointless. Some reports I read said his range made improvements towards the end of last season. I'll take a guard like Carter who plays D, knows how to run an offense and has leadership skills anyday. If we had a PG that could do this I think we would have been good for at least 4 more wins btw this season and last season. A reliable floor general equals W's in close games. Malcom gives us his all and I like the kid but we need somebody who can control tempo, hopefully Carter will be able to do so.
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Post by West End Stench on Dec 29, 2009 9:24:01 GMT -5
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Post by maplehurst on Dec 29, 2009 11:02:28 GMT -5
West End: What do you think Carter has improved on? He only averaged 5 point a game as a junior and now he is leading all scorers. This is defintely good news and that he can shoot the three. As for these players not exactly growing on treees, I'd ask, how come everybody we play has some guy that shoots the lights out against us? Even duing the VBK era, players were hitting threes against us. If all those other teams have good shooters, why can't we get some?
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Post by LumsdnA10Academc98 on Dec 29, 2009 18:49:48 GMT -5
West End: What do you think Carter has improved on? He only averaged 5 point a game as a junior and now he is leading all scorers. This is defintely good news and that he can shoot the three. As for these players not exactly growing on treees, I'd ask, how come everybody we play has some guy that shoots the lights out against us? Even during the VBK era, players were hitting threes against us. If all those other teams have good shooters, why can't we get some? That's a better question. The answer lays more than our teams than it does our opponents. We've been awful at defending the perimeter for most of a decade, ever since Baron departed. Jan's philosophy allowed teams to shoot (and hit) threes, and Solomon's philosophy (and players) didn't know how to stop teams from hitting threes. However, Schmidt's teams, though we still struggle at times, have been significantly better in defending the perimeter. Last season, we actually led the A-10 at 32.4 percent OPP 3-PT FG. We're currently 10th, at 34 percent, but I wouldn't put too much stock in that until conference play. Edit: statsheet.com/mcb/conferences/a-10/team_stats?season=2008-2009www.atlantic10.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2009-2010/confldrs.html#conf.wkt |
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Post by West End Stench on Dec 29, 2009 19:35:21 GMT -5
'Hurst-
I'm not positive, and I'm certainly not a NJ H.S. basketball guru, but I think Carter's increased production is due to the loss of a pair of key scorers last season (Dominic Cheek is at Villanova right now averaging around 6 points per game I believe). The bulk of scoring was done by their front court last year, but this year it appears as if they don't quite have the same size as they did last season (with the exception of the kid going to Richmond).
Also, last season was Eli's first real action with St. Anthony's, and I'm not sure if he was developed enough to be a go-to scorer. Before last season I'm not even sure if he was playing for Bob Hurley, but if he was, then he was stuck on the bench behind upper-class guys like Rosario and Fontan
Needless to say, it's nice that we visited (and signed) Eli before he became their leading scorer, or else he probably would have been getting offers from the bigger sharks by the end of this season...
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Post by mikenice on Dec 29, 2009 21:21:45 GMT -5
Also, last season was Eli's first real action with St. Anthony's, and I'm not sure if he was developed enough to be a go-to scorer. Before last season I'm not even sure if he was playing for Bob Hurley, but if he was, then he was stuck on the bench behind upper-class guys like Rosario and Fontan 'nd Stench, Last season was indeed Carter's first for St. Anthony. Was at Life Center before that. |
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