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Post by bostonbona on Apr 10, 2021 14:48:07 GMT -5
Staff has to project how players will develop. Johnson has played much better competition than the Canadian guard. Don’t know how strong a schedule was played by Harcum JC. Pitt transfer should do well in A10, the ninth best conference.
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Post by jjjacks17 on Apr 10, 2021 15:08:54 GMT -5
the value of our men's basketball team in regards to expanding our exposure/enrollment can't be denied...at 45k a year for an education at Bona's, 20 students equals 900k...coach gets 850k?...there you go...and with financial aid/other means of assistance, even if a student pays 25k a year, 30 students equals 750k...we still have some work to do to get those enrollment numbers to around 2k (which I think is a really solid enrollment number for us)...but if we keep having a successful men's basketball program, that will help us attract more students and we'll hit that 2k number.
Agreed. No one, or few pay 45K per year at Bonas. If you have good grades, good alum connections or are a legacy you will be afforded a generous aid package. My niece just enrolled and her total package was equivalent to the package she got at Brockport. Bonas campus and its traditions are just beyond compare. Our MBB program is just a device to attract national and regional TV and cable coverage of Bonas....we could not afford to pay for the free exposure we get with A10 or NCAA Big Dance placements. Huge up here.
This is exactly why I chose Bonas. Bonaventure cost me virtually the same as some of the SUNY schools I looked at. I was only a B student in high school and I got a generous scholarship package. Wouldn’t change my decisions for any amount of money though!
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Post by ceharv on Apr 10, 2021 15:40:21 GMT -5
As the videos show, Johnson’s range is outstanding. Just trying shots from that far out shows how confident he is in making them. So many hit nothing but net. He’ll be a zone destroyer wherever he goes. As Jay Adams showed, that kind of threat opens up the others on the court dramatically. Like Jay, he also has the ability to blow past his defender, draw the D to him on the drive, resulting in dropping the ball off to an open teammate for an easy bucket. That kind of ability just frustrates opponents, which often results in extended runs that break games open. I hope he realizes that having teammates who can finish will enhance his value and that Bonas has those guys and keeps adding more.
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Post by tastylicks on Apr 10, 2021 15:43:51 GMT -5
Duquesne, empty arenas, always bottom half of the A10, just another guy on campus
Bonas A10 Champs, RC always packed,, a God on campus
Easy decision
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Post by mnbonnie on Apr 10, 2021 17:46:23 GMT -5
So in the lull, sometimes I feel like I am a basketball junkie. I thought I would take a look at the point guard situation at Duquesne and Pitt, based on what I could find, which we know is never the full story. Anyway let's deal with the Dukes first, in general it's been a very busy off season already. Some of this stuff doesn't relate to the point position, but it's just a bonus. I couldn't find out about Dunn Martin's status, but Hughes, hoping for a professional app and Weathers desire to play with his brother who played at Texas South, the two of them are headed to SMU. Their replacements appear to be a guy named Tre Williams, a 6'7" 250, guy who left Indiana State after their coach was fired and the bookend is a guy from Lenoir-Ryne, four year starter, 6'7" 245, good numbers at LR, but they are D2. As of today they are also talking to a Servian player who played four years at North Dakota, I want to say 6'7" or 6'8" big body, versatile enough to go outside and shoot the 3, but this guy had not made any decision on were he was headed. The also signed two big guards, shooters, one form Houston Baptist and I can't remember where the other guy is from. Ok, way more than you needed to know, now what about point guard. The hold overs are Tyler Ascoff, who saw action last year as kind of a back up to Dunn, who took over with Sincere Carry transferred in the middle of the year. Also there and I only recall seeing him late in games as a shooter, but he is a point guard, Micheal Bekeija. Bekeija's background is interesting in that he is Sincere Carry's brother and the two of them took their Ohio hs team to the state finals unsure of the level. I think it must have been an interesting dynamic to have the reason why you came to school to play with your brother, go south, but that's life I guess. The Dukes signed a point guard this year named Amir Spears, a point guard that played a prep year at Mt Zion. So Ascoff and Bekeiji are sophs and Spears is a freshman. The Dukes were apparently trying to tie the bow with some experience trying to bring a grad transfer, Par,am from VMI, but he decided to go with South Alabama. So hard to say, but it maybe was at that point the Dukes began to do some more looking. I would say the Dukes have three point guards all sops or below w/o any mention of Jackie Johnson.
In the case of the Pitt Panthers, the story is a lot shorter. In general there was a run on their roster, so like the Dukes they are in a bit of a rebuild, particularly when you consider the talent in the ACC. At the point the Panthers had Xavier Johnson, a junior I believe and a very good point guard. I don't know that they knew that he was going to leave/ What's in the cupboard is a sophomore point Ithel Horton, who red shirted as a transfer last year. Horton transferred from Delaware, where he had a pretty good season. Horton is a NJ kid. Also listed on their roster is Chris Aiken, a walk on who hurt his leg last year and did not play. So based on my quick study, Pitt has two sophomores listed, Horton with the year from Delaware. There is obviously a lot more going on, but I'll gibe you my take, they didn't anticipate Xaver Johnson leaving, but they have a 4 star point guard they are recruiting, with no guarantees, that throws everything up for grabs, so it might be a situation that if they get their guy Tyty Washington, they won't take Jackie Johnson, but I'm guessing that's why Pitt, like the Dukes got into this late. Does all this actually mean anything, I think we've found the answer to any requiting question, based on what we can see to be answered, not really.
As fellow Bandwagoners have already made the point the Bonnies are on a roll, the program just to continues to produce winning teams, the Panthers and Dukes might do something, but if you look at their records over the past couple of years, not so much and both rosters with respect to putting together a competitive team, have lots and lots of questions. As noted Bona does have a point guard and it's worthy to note that from a player's perspective, when we get a good guard, we don't recruit over him. Evidenced by Jaylen Adams, All A10 four years and an NBA stint and now playing overseas for a top program in Greece. Succeeding Jaylen, is Kyle Lofton, A10 third, second and first team heading into his senior year. The Bonnies have developed top point guards on teams that made it to the NCAA Tournament. Not aspirational, we think we're going to get there, this program has done it, and they are poised to get back there next year. Look at the preseason polls, what do they say, the Bonnies are ranked in the top 15 - 20 teams in the country. In the short run as I noted given Jackie Johnson's abilities, I think he'll get minutes at the point in his first year and then next year, he'll take what he's learned and he's ready, hw'a nor just going to bethrown out there. The elephant in the room is playing time, with Jackie's skill set as a shooter and a slasher he is going to get significant minutes right away. And this is not going to be Jackie against the world, he'll be playing on a team that was a top ten defense nationally, what they lack at times is a consistent go to scorer, Jackie is that guy. Go Bonnies.
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Post by faffy444 on Apr 10, 2021 17:51:31 GMT -5
PITT also has frosh and former BONA target FEMI ADUKELE who played the point late in the year after X JOHNSON bolted.
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Post by wgt on Apr 10, 2021 19:55:25 GMT -5
JACKIE JOHNSON has always been a winner and states he wants to win at the next level.
As he appears to be leaning to the DUKES he is certainly aware they are 28-26 under Coach Dumbrot. A fiery coach who wants to win but has struggled accomplishing that.
He is 1-7 against Coach Schmidt who is 121-62 over the past 6 seasons. Bona has beaten the Dukes 16 of the last 19 games. Everyone wants to win. The Bonnies are pre season favorites to repeat as best in the A10. Forecasts have Bona ranked as high at #15 with several more predictions of top 25.
If JACKIE's priority is playing on a winning team the choice between Bona and the Dukes is clear. Of course there are other factors he and his mom are considering. I wish them the best in making their decision.
I sure hope they decide on making the "Good Journey" at Bona. I am confident he will provide PG play that will challenge the records of our many star A10 PGs of the past. More importantly his Bona experience will provide him lifetime memories.
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Post by bigcat on Apr 11, 2021 7:12:41 GMT -5
Questions for those who know more about recruiting than I ... with the four verbal commits listed below, where does this put our roster and available scholarships as of today?
PF Abdoul Karim Coulibaly (6-8 215) C Oluwasegun Durosinmi (6-9 220) SG Justin Ndjock-Tadjore (6-8 175) SG/PG Quadry Adams (6-4 170)
Are either of last year’s walk-ons (Taggert, Bell) still on the roster? If not does this give us 10 players with Alpha the only returning bench guy?
Are we able to offer high school rising seniors now and sign them officially this spring (April 14 period) for 2022-23?
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Post by fjs64 on Apr 11, 2021 9:25:02 GMT -5
There is so much that most of us don't know....so many rules.
We currently are allowed 13 scholarships (I do not know if more are allowed due to the kids getting an extra year). We have 6 kids for the 13. We have 4 commits, and hopefully they sign the LOI. I assume transfers and JC also have to sign. With the 4 commits we would have 10 on the roster. 3 more to go.
Taggert and Bell were preferred walk ons...Taggert is tranferring . They do not count against the 13.
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Post by Chuck on Apr 11, 2021 10:17:46 GMT -5
Completely understand Jackie Johnson's attraction to Duquesne with the possibility of being a starter as a freshman, but he needs to look at his long term as a basketball player. Keith Dambrot has 3 different starting PGs in his 4 years at Duquense. Only Tavian Dunn-Martin chose to finish his career with Dambrot. Tavian Dunn-Martin is a good player, but does not in any way compare to the Bonnie PGs, he guarded (Kyle Lofton and Jay Adams). Being a backup as a freshman isn't exciting, but look at your future with 4 years of development with Schmidt. Jay Adams - Associated Press Honorable Mention All-American - Atlantic 10 Co-Player of the Year - 3 time First Team All-Atlantic 10 - NBA player Kyle Lofton — A-10 All Rookie team — 2 time 1st team All A-10 — Future another 1st team All Conference and definite pro player. Starting PGs prior to Jay and Kyle played just part of their college basketball career with Schmidt. Charloon Kloof (JUCO) — Starting PG for Bonnies 2012 NCAA team. — Double digit scorer as a senior. — Has been a star as pro player in international basketball. — Kloof was named Eurobasket.com All-Macdeonian League Finals MVP in 2017. Ogo Adegboye (JUCO) — Double digit scorer as a senior. — 10 years as a professional international basketball player. Tyler Relph (already on team prior to Schmidt’s arrival) — Prior to Schmidt Tyler was considered a disappointment. — Played 1 year with Schmidt and averaged 11.9 ppg. Was a solid PG for Schmidt in his 1st year with Bonnies. — Was on Schmidt’s staff and then started the Tyler Relph Basketball Academy. Today, he is considered an elite basketball trainer with an innovative training company. His client list includes impressive list of former NBA stars. All of the above PGs showed improvement every year with Schmidt. All have made a professional career in basketball. The key word for Jackie Johnson is player development. Do not see it with Dambrot, who has 3 different starting PGs in 4 years and only 1 chose to stay with Dambrot. Schmidt has an impressive record of player development. It is the reason why Bonnies are yearly one of the top teams in the A-10 and why Bonnies have been at the Big Dance in 2 of the last 4 years. gobonnies.sbu.edu/sports/m-baskbl/Bonnies_Former_Players
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Post by faffy444 on Apr 11, 2021 10:32:25 GMT -5
JACKIE JOHNSON has always been a winner and states he wants to win at the next level. As he appears to be leaning to the DUKES he is certainly aware they are 28-26 under Coach Dumbrot. A fiery coach who wants to win but has struggled accomplishing that. He is 1-7 against Coach Schmidt who is 121-62 over the past 6 seasons. Bona has beaten the Dukes 16 of the last 19 games. Everyone wants to win. The Bonnies are pre season favorites to repeat as best in the A10. Forecasts have Bona ranked as high at #15 with several more predictions of top 25. If JACKIE's priority is playing on a winning team the choice between Bona and the Dukes is clear. Of course there are other factors he and his mom are considering. I wish them the best in making their decision. I sure hope they decide on making the "Good Journey" at Bona. I am confident he will provide PG play that will challenge the records of our many star A10 PGs of the past. More importantly his Bona experience will provide him lifetime memories. WGT gets it right. the key to JOHNSON'S recruitment may be program stability. meaning a coach who has a long term contract and will be around. nothing is perfect in this world, but SCHMIDT wins this aspect hands down. DAMBROT is 28 and 26 and his team is a revolving door. how long will DUQUESNE wait? how long will CAPEL remain in vogue at PITT? if history tells us anything it wont be long.
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Post by agoo on Apr 11, 2021 11:22:42 GMT -5
If Johnson doesn’t look at the Duquesne roster sitting in the middle of the conference and think he can be a difference maker to bring them to the top, then I’m not sure he’s a fit on this roster.
The guys we have now don’t see themselves as doing more with less. They’re hitting their expectations and the guys coming in need to be ready for that.
I get a sense that Johnson would fit in with that mentality, which is why these other options may be attractive to him.
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Post by bigcat on Apr 11, 2021 12:13:07 GMT -5
Easy for all of us to see and say that Johnson’s best decision is the Bona decision. I’m sure Winston, AJ and others thought the same thing but ultimately they chose playing time over player development. Not all young men think maturely — in fact, most do not — or understand real opportunity vs immediate gratification. Hopefully Johnson will watch highlights of other great Bona PGs, not only Schmidt’s recruits but also Bremer, Green, Winn etc.
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Post by mcspin on Apr 11, 2021 19:24:08 GMT -5
We'll find out if winning is more important than playing time as a freshman.
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Post by bigd on Apr 11, 2021 19:59:53 GMT -5
Does anyone know when Jackie Johnson or any other of the guys we're after are going to make their decisions. I'm tired of checking 5or6 times a day. I hope it doesn't drag on all summer.
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