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Post by joe48 on Mar 7, 2024 10:24:50 GMT -5
I have been saying the same thing. Bring in 2 fifth year starters causes problems with team chemistry. They look disinterested on some nights and I question how you expect a big commitment from players like this. They are one and done. It affects the play of the rest of the team. Schmidt’s job has gotten tougher with NIL.
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Post by chrismoses on Mar 7, 2024 10:35:55 GMT -5
The ugly truth is most Bona fans can't fully support the BAF AND an NIL collective. Might be harsh, but our alums and fans aren't ripe with cash and we aren't deep in numbers like a VCU or UD.
So with that said, is it better to fully fund the BAF and allow our facilities, OOC scheduling and coaching retention to improve? Do we develop a strong NIL collective to attract players, but then have less funding going towards our infrastructure?
We will NEVER have enough NIL funds to consistently keep players from transferring to P5s, but if we have a favorable OOC with a lot of buy games, a great HC and facilities better than most of our competitors, we will be able to compete in the A10 most years.
Some might say it doesn't have to be an either/or situation, but with SBU it most certainly will be that way. Most that give to the BAF (outside of the Wojs, Quicks, etc.), can't give at the same level with NIL. So what would likely happen is you get a 50/50 spilt to both, which wouldn't benefit the program as a whole.
We have a limited donor base and now we basically have two capital campaign projects going on ...forever.
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Post by kccgold on Mar 7, 2024 10:51:15 GMT -5
The ugly truth is most Bona fans can't fully support the BAF AND an NIL collective. It is not an either or, people can support both, or one, or the other. I think if you make a statement like this when you don't know what you are even talking about is not wise we simply have to have both and the partnership between the two groups is developing strongly |
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Post by chrismoses on Mar 7, 2024 11:14:38 GMT -5
The ugly truth is most Bona fans can't fully support the BAF AND an NIL collective. It is not an either or, people can support both, or one, or the other. I think if you make a statement like this when you don't know what you are even talking about is not wise we simply have to have both and the partnership between the two groups is developing strongly Then why oh why do we have bleachers from the 60s, H&Hs with four MAAC schools, a high school weight room, high school level facilities for every sport outside of BB, limited funds for every sport besides MBB? We do not have enough $$ to competitively fund both right now. We have a handful donors that turn the wheels here. |
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Post by kccgold on Mar 7, 2024 11:32:00 GMT -5
It is not an either or, people can support both, or one, or the other. I think if you make a statement like this when you don't know what you are even talking about is not wise we simply have to have both and the partnership between the two groups is developing strongly Then why oh why do we have bleachers from the 60s, H&Hs with four MAAC schools, a high school weight room, high school level facilities for every sport outside of BB, limited funds for every sport besides MBB? We do not have enough $$ to competitively fund both right now. We have a handful donors that turn the wheels here. Ok now you are just being silly. We lost a conference game on the road now everything about the program is high school level LOL by the way, the GW announcers were complimentary of how their former player has transformed his body in our high school weight room... Noel Brown looks to be doing okay with it  |
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Post by chrismoses on Mar 7, 2024 11:45:09 GMT -5
Then why oh why do we have bleachers from the 60s, H&Hs with four MAAC schools, a high school weight room, high school level facilities for every sport outside of BB, limited funds for every sport besides MBB? We do not have enough $$ to competitively fund both right now. We have a handful donors that turn the wheels here. Ok now you are just being silly. We lost a conference game on the road now everything about the program is high school level LOL Looks like the point when over your head. |
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Post by wredwards22 on Mar 7, 2024 16:56:10 GMT -5
There is a 6’11 rebounding, defensive juggernaut, athletic redshirt freshman on the bench all season long. No ability to adapt or change game plans, will just result to rebuilding through the portal every year. That says no chemistry. Assa will transfer because the style doesn’t fit his talents, and I’m sure the 6’11 kid mentioned above will look at the options for him since he’s watching the team get out rebounded and out hustled in the paint.
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Post by drivesbu on Mar 7, 2024 19:05:31 GMT -5
Then why oh why do we have bleachers from the 60s, H&Hs with four MAAC schools, a high school weight room, high school level facilities for every sport outside of BB, limited funds for every sport besides MBB? We do not have enough $$ to competitively fund both right now. We have a handful donors that turn the wheels here. Ok now you are just being silly. We lost a conference game on the road now everything about the program is high school level LOL by the way, the GW announcers were complimentary of how their former player has transformed his body in our high school weight room... Noel Brown looks to be doing okay with it Have you seen our weight room? Any successes in there should be attributed to Coach Fiske and SBU is lucky to have him. The facility though is not even HS level and has to cost us many a recruit. It is an absolute joke and to say the weight room is the worst anywhere in Division I would not be a stretch in the least. |
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Post by kccgold on Mar 7, 2024 19:35:37 GMT -5
Ok now you are just being silly. We lost a conference game on the road now everything about the program is high school level LOL by the way, the GW announcers were complimentary of how their former player has transformed his body in our high school weight room... Noel Brown looks to be doing okay with it Have you seen our weight room? Any successes in there should be attributed to Coach Fiske and SBU is lucky to have him. The facility though is not even HS level and has to cost us many a recruit. It is an absolute joke and to say the weight room is the worst anywhere in Division I would not be a stretch in the least. So donate to it |
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Post by localfan on Mar 7, 2024 19:50:47 GMT -5
It has been a while since I’ve posted, but this thread compelled me to check in.
1. Bonaventure has always been and will always be about the people. Period. Our facilities are not great. Our university and donor base is not flush with cash. Mark Schmidt embodies everything great about our university. Incredibly hard worker. Blue collar attitude. More interested in results than flash. There are a few donors who step up annually to ensure this wildly entertaining period of Bona basketball can continue as long as possible. And the fact that there are real people who feel that the all-time winningest coach in Bonaventure history who restored our program from the absolute dead should be fired or has “lost a step” in a season where he’s 18-11 in the NIL era is the truest testament to how much he’s built this program and how far he’s taken us.
2. The fact that this program is above .500 two years into NIL is a minor miracle. For many reasons. First, Schmidt and his staff have always been developers of talent. NIL takes that away. It just does. You don’t get four years with a kid anymore. You get one or two. So all of us who like to brag about finding “diamonds in the rough” and developing them into great players can stop. That was (and is) Schmidt’s biggest strength. And here we are, in an era which it’s gone, and he’s still winning!
3. If you want our program to continue to succeed in the future, a coaching change isn’t even close to the most important thing to accomplish that. You know what is? Raising enough money to build a practice facility and dedicated locker room. Donating on an annual basis to offer financial opportunities to prospective players through collectives. SUPPORTING players instead of riding an emotional roller coaster and trashing them if they don’t play well. Donating money so the Reilly Center can live into the future. Supporting funding for a weight room that doesn’t look like it’s at a local middle school. PAYING THE SUPPORT STAFF - including one of the best strength coaches in America - MORE MONEY!
4. If Mark Schmidt leaves, we better have an athletic director who understands our campus and local community. Steve Watson understood. He brought us Mark Schmidt. A P5 assistant trying to work his way up is not going to be effective here. It will not happen. It takes someone who gets it. Mark Schmidt gets it. Forget about if he’s lost a step. I’m hoping beyond hope he doesn’t retire.
Like some of you, I’m frustrated with some things this year. My main frustration is a lack of player leadership. I get frustrated at our lack of creativity on defense. I wish we’d run more stuff away from Chad. But none of this - I mean NONE of it - requires even a split-second thought about whether or not Mark Schmidt isn’t the perfect guy to lead us into the future. We know he is, because he already has.
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Post by towniegrad on Mar 7, 2024 20:09:47 GMT -5
In many ways bona is a typical d3 school that has fortuitously been able to achieve an enviable record in D1 basketball…..Schmidt is a big part of the good fortune bona has experienced…enjoy.
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Post by ceharv on Mar 7, 2024 22:40:27 GMT -5
Joe48, I hear what you’re saying and not to belabor the obvious but I think you’re going to need to get used to it. Where would we have been this year without Mika and Pride? I saw no evidence of either of those guys detracting from the team chemistry or any evidence that even our most disappointing losses were due to problems with team chemistry. I am not close to campus but I presume that if either of those guys were causing chemistry problems with the team we’d have heard the rumors here. Both those guys shared the ball well, particularly Mika, and Pride was dedicated to doing the dirty work, particularly in fighting for rebounds. I only saw both those guys giving it their best and working with their teammates. Sure we had some tough losses, but I saw no reason to think they were caused by any team chemistry problem, eve if that could be identified as such. My take is that chemistry problems result from selfish play, or prima donnas who refuse to do the dirty work. And even if fifth year players don’t have the time in the program, they come with maturity and experience, which I think often includes the realization of the value of teamwork.
Now I guess if the Dance is dominated by teams predominantly made up of four year players only and without fifth year additions, I may need to rethink my perspective. But my guess is that we will see many or most teams helped significantly by fifth year, one-time additions. And in this critical upcoming recruiting group, I will welcome grad transfers and other such guys joining us for just if even for just next year, particularly at guard. We’re going to need more experience. But yeah, I would rather things be as they were, filled with guys who develop along with teammates in the program for years, but those days are gone I’m sorry to say.
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Post by coach on Mar 8, 2024 0:37:58 GMT -5
There is a 6’11 rebounding, defensive juggernaut, athletic redshirt freshman on the bench all season long. No ability to adapt or change game plans, will just result to rebuilding through the portal every year. That says no chemistry. Assa will transfer because the style doesn’t fit his talents, and I’m sure the 6’11 kid mentioned above will look at the options for him since he’s watching the team get out rebounded and out hustled in the paint. are you talking about Martinez?  Well, he is on the bench b/c he is not ready to play over Venning or Noel. Hopefully he makes a huge jump and improves for next year but he's not anywhere near ready to play yet. I also doubt he leaves- He looks happy in his role this year. |
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Post by ctm77 on Mar 8, 2024 2:26:29 GMT -5
There is a 6’11 rebounding, defensive juggernaut, athletic redshirt freshman on the bench all season long. No ability to adapt or change game plans, will just result to rebuilding through the portal every year. That says no chemistry. Assa will transfer because the style doesn’t fit his talents, and I’m sure the 6’11 kid mentioned above will look at the options for him since he’s watching the team get out rebounded and out hustled in the paint. are you talking about Martinez? Well, he is on the bench b/c he is not ready to play over Venning or Noel. Hopefully he makes a huge jump and improves for next year but he's not anywhere near ready to play yet. I also doubt he leaves- He looks happy in his role this year. This is crazy talk, Coach! Obviously Schmidt doesn’t know what he’s doing and is leaving a “defensive juggernaut” on the bench due to his own lack of foresight! WREdwards is clearly at practice every day watching this elite rebounder dominate. |
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Post by joe48 on Mar 8, 2024 6:56:50 GMT -5
Joe48, I hear what you’re saying and not to belabor the obvious but I think you’re going to need to get used to it. Where would we have been this year without Mika and Pride? I saw no evidence of either of those guys detracting from the team chemistry or any evidence that even our most disappointing losses were due to problems with team chemistry. I am not close to campus but I presume that if either of those guys were causing chemistry problems with the team we’d have heard the rumors here. Both those guys shared the ball well, particularly Mika, and Pride was dedicated to doing the dirty work, particularly in fighting for rebounds. I only saw both those guys giving it their best and working with their teammates. Sure we had some tough losses, but I saw no reason to think they were caused by any team chemistry problem, eve if that could be identified as such. My take is that chemistry problems result from selfish play, or prima donnas who refuse to do the dirty work. And even if fifth year players don’t have the time in the program, they come with maturity and experience, which I think often includes the realization of the value of teamwork. Now I guess if the Dance is dominated by teams predominantly made up of four year players only and without fifth year additions, I may need to rethink my perspective. But my guess is that we will see many or most teams helped significantly by fifth year, one-time additions. And in this critical upcoming recruiting group, I will welcome grad transfers and other such guys joining us for just if even for just next year, particularly at guard. We’re going to need more experience. But yeah, I would rather things be as they were, filled with guys who develop along with teammates in the program for years, but those days are gone I’m sorry to say. I agree that we will to accept things will change moving forward. I describe our play this year as less focused, and inconsistent. I would also say that we do not give consistent effort as witnessed by our recent game. To me that is the lack of team chemistry. |
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