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Post by 123Rob on Mar 30, 2024 11:56:50 GMT -5
Every day is Festivus on the Bandwagon!!
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Post by gregmitch70 on Mar 30, 2024 12:55:17 GMT -5
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Post by pete's mom on Mar 30, 2024 13:58:41 GMT -5
Once again, what do you expect him to say. |
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Post by Hermit on Mar 30, 2024 14:13:28 GMT -5
I would argue that neither has any “inside” sources. |
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Post by bigcat on Mar 30, 2024 14:18:58 GMT -5
Sounds like it was a semi-revolt by players (or semi-quit) … and Schmidt lost control of this group at some point and had enough. Maybe it started with the MAW issues.
Assa and Barry probably did not like the smell of things — bad leadership by upperclassmen on and off the court. Yes they want to get paid but those are smart kids who know the score.
Chad couldn’t be happy about playing about 10 to 15 minutes in the last two Brooklyn games, though Noel clearly was performing better.
Schmidt obviously knew the temp in the room: most/some of his players were happy to end the season in Brooklyn with a few heading to the portal … or maybe the players showed no passion about the NIT, same lack of enthusiasm or caring they seemed to exhibit on many game days. It’s all baffling.
Speculation and observation by me, of course — but something was not right with this team as the season moved along. Decent OOC and high hopes evaporated with each bad effort/loss.
That’s why it frustrates me (?) when many posters keep tooting the “we won 20 games horn” … as if that’s a great achievement for this group. Maybe for the coach who was dealing with this mess, but how can Mark not be partially responsible … the guy who recruits, teaches and inspires these players?
Yeah, we are back to the “semi-complete roster rebuild mode” once again. The good news is that next year’s team can’t possibly show less effort or mental toughness — struggling to score 20 points in the first half of 4 to 5 conference games … losing at least 3 games to the worst of the worst.
Five lopsided OOC wins over very very very very bad teams positively skewed our Net Ranking so that many posters can say our Net 87 was another sign of a solid season (along with 20 wins).
Thankful that we have a core of 4 players (if Noel stays) who want to be Bona men and help to return some dignity to the program. Play hard. Play with emotion. Fight, claw and battle every game. Act like your care about being a Bona baller.
Keep improving and building toward the A10 tourney or the next season. Entertain the RC faithful and TV viewers. Stick around for a few years. Love the university — then the 2024-25 season will prove to be a great step forward if the Bonnies win 20 games or not.
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Post by letsgobonas on Mar 30, 2024 16:44:42 GMT -5
We won 20 games, and if we had won 4-5 more (that we should have won), we'd have been in the mix for an at-large berth.
We need to stop thinking about winning 20 games and start thinking bigger... has Schmidt resurrected the program? Of course he has, but we're well past that.
It's time for us to contend for an A-10 title every year and make the Dance every three years, with NIT berths in one of the two "off" years... consistency is key to getting better and better talent and continuous progress.
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Post by ohs73 on Mar 30, 2024 17:21:23 GMT -5
This situation just gets sadder by the day. Will every guy eventually bolt? Currently, the count is nine including four whose eligibility ended.
Maybe Schmidt thinks all this will blow over, that it will fade from memory. He is sadly mistaken.
We are several weeks out since the A-10 semi loss. Still crickets. Is he that arrogant as to not provide comment? It's his team. He recruits and coaches the players. He has always been accessible b4 and after games.
What makes this different? The alumni (including donors) and the public should expect accountability.
This is the only time in Schmidt's tenure I have been disappointed from a leadership pov.
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Post by coach on Mar 31, 2024 2:23:52 GMT -5
I really don't understand the big gripe about the NIT. The NIT is really nothing these days. The players graduating and the players that hit the portal would not have played at 100%. The team played pretty bad the last 6 games they took the court. I have honestly not watched one NIT game this post season. NIT is not important. Remember the snub year with Adams and Posley and we played in a post season conference, and that was one great team-but they looked really uninterested. Why take this team on the road to shoot another horrible percentage and lose?  ?? Nit doesn't mean a thing anymore. Let it go. If the staff felt that it was better to skip and prioritize on replacing 9 players then they have the right to choose that. I don't understand the big problem. Essentially, the NIT collects all the revenue and then disburses it to all the NIT participants according to the number of games in which they played. Sources of revenue include: All ticket sales TV rights Radio rights Internet rights Commission from gambling ring participants (no idea what that is) The NIT then reimburses each traveling team for standard coach airfare, one bus + driver, and $120 per diem per person. As I read it, it looks like each player gets $120 per day for each day they are still participating in the competition. That hopefully is enough to cover meals. Hotel costs are the responsibility of the traveling institution. Host institutions are responsible for myriad miscellaneous things, like liability insurance for the arena, 50 seats for the traveling institution, space for both teams' bands and cheerleaders, NIT banners hanging in strategic places, etc. We don't get any money for the players' food or lodging while hosting. We will receive money if we make it to New York, because all remaining teams are considered traveling institutions at that point. The per diem jumps up to $185, enough to buy at least one pizza per day in Manhattan. No money for hosting directly. You only receive a cut of the net revenue in proportion to how many games we played. So in a year where a team makes the NIT and sells out their arena, they end up having to split the ticket money with the other team and their spring-break-caused empty arena. Of course, the hope is that the extra revenue from the media rights will make up the difference and everyone makes a profit. So, IN A NUTSHELL - Teams can make some money, but it aint much. The biggest bonus, is they will probably turn a profit if they win a few games. You most likely lose money playing in a tournament that nobody really follows. How many NIT brackets have you filled out? This team was really hard to watch the last 2 games of the regular conf and then the games in the conf tourney. They did not play well enough to make it as far as they did. they GOT LUCKY. If only some of the previous teams that deserved to advance got that lucky!!!! This team not only shot bad but they played bad defense. They made DUMB mistakes in critical moments. They just were not a good team. I can't believe they won 20 games. That's unreal with the way they played. |
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Post by bigcat on Mar 31, 2024 2:55:13 GMT -5
Coach, agree with some of your points above. Extending the season for this team (other than the NCAA tourney) likely would have meant another uninspired effort IMO. Many fans and posters feel it would have been good for the university. Xavier has more talent than the Bonnies but their mediocre, injury-plagued season ended by getting blown out at Georgia.
The way Schmidt and the university handled the situation is what has fans and alums disturbed… not merely the fact that the season was over.
The NIT Final Four is no longer in NYC. This year it is at Butler in Indy — and those games are sold out. Our run to the NIT semis two seasons ago was a source of great publicity and pride for SBU … and helped many of us forget (temporarily) the shock of losing our first A10 tourney game. When Lofton, Adaway and company rose to #16 in the polls that season would you ever believe that no NCAA bid was possible?
I heard, maybe on this board, that the university lost tens of thousands of dollars since we chartered flights to CO, OK, VA and NYC. The team basically lived on the road for a couple weeks … but I’m sure SBU admin would do it again had the players and coach acted like they cared.
Hardly anyone watches the NIT because it is up against the men’s and women’s tourney games. If we have a young team then maybe the NIT could prove to be a great learning experience, but probably not for this group.
Many Bona alums and fans still hold the NIT in high regard.
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Post by coach on Mar 31, 2024 4:04:05 GMT -5
Coach, agree with some of your points above. Extending the season for this team (other than the NCAA tourney) likely would have meant another uninspired effort IMO. Many fans and posters feel it would have been good for the university. Xavier has more talent than the Bonnies but their mediocre, injury-plagued season ended by getting blown out at Georgia. The way Schmidt and the university handled the situation is what has fans and alums disturbed… not merely the fact that the season was over. The NIT Final Four is no longer in NYC. This year it is at Butler in Indy — and those games are sold out. Our run to the NIT semis two seasons ago was a source of great publicity and pride for SBU … and helped many of us forget (temporarily) the shock of losing our first A10 tourney game. When Lofton, Adaway and company rose to #16 in the polls that season would you ever believe that no NCAA bid was possible? I heard, maybe on this board, that the university lost tens of thousands of dollars since we chartered flights to CO, OK, VA and NYC. The team basically lived on the road for a couple weeks … but I’m sure SBU admin would do it again had the players and coach acted like they cared. Hardly anyone watches the NIT because it is up against the men’s and women’s tourney games. If we have a young team then maybe the NIT could prove to be a great learning experience, but probably not for this group. Many Bona alums and fans still hold the NIT in high regard. Yeah if they had a full team coming back then it would be great experience but with this team... I just don't see the point. I seriously hoped they didn't make the NIT b/c it was so stressful watching these guys. I actually liked the way they played last year and watched how players were developing. I've heard from many sources that Mika was a handful- on and off the court. There were times when I saw banks mess up and Mika was all on him- on TV. I think the team had a lot of behind the scene problems. I don't know but this team could not click. Just saying I don't get the gripe about skipping an NIT offer with so many players leaving and as bad as this team was playing. Alumni might not fully understand that the NIT thes days really means nothing and to spend money traveling on a team that hardly ever showed up would be a waste of time. That's my point. Bona basketball is the only college team I follow. I've followed them for over 40 years and watched some bad coaches and bad teams. However, this 20 win team was probably the team that i have been the least interested in. They give a new meaning to Night and Day and Hot and cold. I don't even know what you call this team. |
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Post by bonnieswin on Mar 31, 2024 5:05:05 GMT -5
This situation just gets sadder by the day. Will every guy eventually bolt? Currently, the count is nine including four whose eligibility ended. Maybe Schmidt thinks all this will blow over, that it will fade from memory. He is sadly mistaken. We are several weeks out since the A-10 semi loss. Still crickets. Is he that arrogant as to not provide comment? It's his team. He recruits and coaches the players. He has always been accessible b4 and after games. What makes this different? The alumni (including donors) and the public should expect accountability. This is the only time in Schmidt's tenure I have been disappointed from a leadership pov. Great post OHS. Hard to believe Schmidt has not said one word about the fiasco. Total lack of accountability and how some on this board can not hold him accountable is hard to comprehend. Alright Schmidt lovers, go ahead and bash! |
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Post by artvandalay on Mar 31, 2024 7:34:13 GMT -5
In all this I have not seen one quote or statement from any players about not going to the NIT. My guess is that they don't care!
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Post by ctm77 on Mar 31, 2024 8:53:43 GMT -5
I would argue that neither has any “inside” sources. If you think either of them has “sources,” after finding out with the rest of us that the team declined the NIT, I have a great timeshare to sell you After reading Pollock’s column that’s carried by the so-called “scuttlebutt,” I feel more confident in saying he has been a hack during this whole thing. Not one attempt to actually reach out for comment. Fitting from the man who expected Schmidt to spoon-feed him injury news. |
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?? Nit doesn't mean a thing anymore. Let it go. If the staff felt that it was better to skip and prioritize on replacing 9 players then they have the right to choose that. I don't understand the big problem. 