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Post by CoachSBU on Nov 10, 2024 17:00:52 GMT -5
Duane Thompson with the start and an early 3. Griffs playing with a ton of energy so far. We’re weathering the storm with an equally good start. Let’s keep it up. Huge advantages in height and athleticism. I just came on the site a little while ago today (Sunday) to see the reactions to yesterday's game. I was there with a few other Bona alums. I wanted to see if someone commented on this situation with Thompson starting as Lajae Jones started the last game and was the first sub off the bench. Jones did not look happy most of the game and didn't play particularly well. Was this a disciplinary move by Schmidt to not have him start? Thompson did play a little bit as the game went on and played well for a frosh, I thought. Nice 3 to start out the game and he must be showing something to Schmidt to be able to start. Did anyone hear anything on Jones though or am I reaching a bit too much?? |
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Post by CoachSBU on Nov 10, 2024 17:06:11 GMT -5
Interesting title from OTH article “Engaged” Moore lifts Bona over Canisius. The word engaged is in parentheses. Does Chance need to be engaged to have these star performances? Following comment is from article. — According to Schmidt, Moore was just about at the top of his game Saturday. And while there are still some finer details Schmidt hopes to see cleaned up this season, Moore gave the Bonnies the edge. “When he's engaged he's a really good player, we just got to make sure that he's engaged all the time,” Schmidt said. I wonder if Chance wasn’t engaged when I saw him this preseason. At times he displayed special talent, but it was always short lived. It makes me think of Allen Iverson’s “it’s just practice.” Marcus Posley is my best example of a player, who had to be engaged. Didn’t show much during workouts and pick up games, but was great when he was engaged during games. Does Chance need to be engaged to play well? Consider the following comments from Chance and Schmidt. — “I feel like I need to be more consistent if I’m being honest,” Moore said. “Consistency, that’s what takes players from good to great.” — “They really preach work ethic here, getting in that extra work and outside of practice as well.” — “Schmidt just holds everyone to such a higher standard,” Moore said. “He’s going to push you every day. He’s going to push you through the things that you may not want to do, but ultimately, will get you better as a player overall and help contribute to us winning more games. — Schmidt expressed his enthusiasm for Moore in a preseason Zoom call “expecting that as long as he is able to sustain a good level of energy, he will excel. He’s a long (guy), he’s athletic. The question ... at the places that he’s been is will he play hard. He’s really gifted and now will he bring that energy? If he does, then we have a really good player.” Remind you, despite Chance’s talent he was just the 6th man on a Missouri State team that finished 9th in the Missouri Valley. Did problems of engaging or "lack of energy" during practices, prevent him from being a star at Missouri State? According to above comments, Schmidt has helped Chance to engage or improve his lack of energy. Hopefully we see it for rest of the season, because he has been a star the first 2 games. www.oleantimesherald.com/newsletter/engaged-moore-lifts-bona-past-canisius-87-78/article_dbd51770-9eff-11ef-8131-b74f1f4521fc.htmlwww.oleantimesherald.com/newsletter/consistency-key-for-moore-as-sbu-newcomer/article_e3b5b104-965b-11ef-b0cf-f3108a5ac2a4.htmlI think you're on to something here, Chuck. And I would say that Chance's description of Schmidt is quite accurate as a coach who expects a lot from his players. I would also say that a lot of the team last season did NOT respond to Coach Schmidt's style of discipline and that's a good reason why last year's team did not gel as we would have hoped. Ideally we'd like to see Chance Moore's game continue to be inspired because he looked like a thoroughbred out there yesterday at times compared to a lot of ponies... |
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Post by CoachSBU on Nov 10, 2024 17:11:12 GMT -5
It was a great matchup between 2 players, who have not lived up to their extremely impressive high school press clippings. You have Paul McMillan winning Ohio's Gatorade State Player of the Year Award and was Rivals 126th best recruit in the country going against Chance Moore a four-star recruit … Rated 84th nationally by ESPN … Sports Illustrated All-American finalist and McDonald’s All-American nominee. Today they looked everything like the player suggested by their press clippings. McMillan was a one man wrecking crew scoring 31 points with an incredible 11 of 15 shooting from the field for 73.3%. He even shot better from 3s making 75% on 3-4 shots. Chance also had an impressive day shooting making 9 of 13 shots for 69.2% from the field. Chance scored 4 less points, but had a more complete game contributing on the boards (6 rebounds), blocking shots (3) and steals (2). Mind you extreme majority of these shots were jump shots or highlight reel dives to the basket. A very impressive matchup between 2 stars on the court. I knew Chance would be good, but I had no idea in the first 2 games, he would develop into a star for the Bonnies. njithighlanders.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/paul-mcmillan-iv/7674arkansasrazorbacks.com/roster/chance-moore/More great points about Moore, Chuck. Let's hope Mark Schmidt is the "perfect coach" for Chance Moore to become a star and lift the Bonnies to soar to greater heights!!! |
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Post by kccgold on Nov 10, 2024 17:11:42 GMT -5
Duane Thompson with the start and an early 3. Griffs playing with a ton of energy so far. We’re weathering the storm with an equally good start. Let’s keep it up. Huge advantages in height and athleticism. I just came on the site a little while ago today (Sunday) to see the reactions to yesterday's game. I was there with a few other Bona alums. I wanted to see if someone commented on this situation with Thompson starting as Lajae Jones started the last game and was the first sub off the bench. Jones did not look happy most of the game and didn't play particularly well. Was this a disciplinary move by Schmidt to not have him start? Thompson did play a little bit as the game went on and played well for a frosh, I thought. Nice 3 to start out the game and he must be showing something to Schmidt to be able to start. Did anyone hear anything on Jones though or am I reaching a bit too much?? They said on the tv broadcast that the starting lineup could change game to game as Schmidt is rewarding the players that practiced hard |
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Post by marylandbonnie1 on Nov 10, 2024 18:30:48 GMT -5
I think at this point, Schmidt is is trying to coach them out of their previous tendencies. We all know Schmidt does not like quick shots and prefers to “run” the offense. He also does not like when players play iso ball. The team is a work in process as far as the offense goes.
The D confused me a little yesterday, for a Schimdt team. Maybe it was the Griffs were making 27ft 3 pointers but I saw a bunch of penetration by there Griffs guards without the traditional “ pack line” D Schmidt is famous for. Anybody have any thoughts about the D?
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Post by Cassian on Nov 10, 2024 21:14:27 GMT -5
I saw guys jacking up threes that went in - say 5 - that fouls have equated to a total blowout on any other day
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Post by bigcat on Nov 10, 2024 22:01:50 GMT -5
We displayed defensive intensity and effort for the most part Saturday afternoon, but we cannot survive when giving up 78 points to better opponents.
Yes the Griffs were out of their minds with some of the shots from way deep. They made 14 threes and I’d guess that more than half of them were uncontested.
I think what concerned Schmidt the most was that his guys were slow to see and adjust. The Griffs made 3 or 4 treys in a row late in the first half when their big men were trailing. Our guys were oblivious — dropping into the paint as CC crossed mid court and fired away.
Schmidt was happy with the win but says there still is so much to work on. Our squad seems like they are hungry guys who are willing to put in the work to get better. Keep chopping wood.
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Post by coach on Nov 11, 2024 6:01:13 GMT -5
Interesting title from OTH article “Engaged” Moore lifts Bona over Canisius. The word engaged is in parentheses. Does Chance need to be engaged to have these star performances? Following comment is from article. — According to Schmidt, Moore was just about at the top of his game Saturday. And while there are still some finer details Schmidt hopes to see cleaned up this season, Moore gave the Bonnies the edge. “When he's engaged he's a really good player, we just got to make sure that he's engaged all the time,” Schmidt said. I wonder if Chance wasn’t engaged when I saw him this preseason. At times he displayed special talent, but it was always short lived. It makes me think of Allen Iverson’s “it’s just practice.” Marcus Posley is my best example of a player, who had to be engaged. Didn’t show much during workouts and pick up games, but was great when he was engaged during games. Does Chance need to be engaged to play well? Consider the following comments from Chance and Schmidt. — “I feel like I need to be more consistent if I’m being honest,” Moore said. “Consistency, that’s what takes players from good to great.” — “They really preach work ethic here, getting in that extra work and outside of practice as well.” — “Schmidt just holds everyone to such a higher standard,” Moore said. “He’s going to push you every day. He’s going to push you through the things that you may not want to do, but ultimately, will get you better as a player overall and help contribute to us winning more games. — Schmidt expressed his enthusiasm for Moore in a preseason Zoom call “expecting that as long as he is able to sustain a good level of energy, he will excel. He’s a long (guy), he’s athletic. The question ... at the places that he’s been is will he play hard. He’s really gifted and now will he bring that energy? If he does, then we have a really good player.” Remind you, despite Chance’s talent he was just the 6th man on a Missouri State team that finished 9th in the Missouri Valley. Did problems of engaging or "lack of energy" during practices, prevent him from being a star at Missouri State? According to above comments, Schmidt has helped Chance to engage or improve his lack of energy. Hopefully we see it for rest of the season, because he has been a star the first 2 games. www.oleantimesherald.com/newsletter/engaged-moore-lifts-bona-past-canisius-87-78/article_dbd51770-9eff-11ef-8131-b74f1f4521fc.htmlwww.oleantimesherald.com/newsletter/consistency-key-for-moore-as-sbu-newcomer/article_e3b5b104-965b-11ef-b0cf-f3108a5ac2a4.htmlI think you're on to something here, Chuck. And I would say that Chance's description of Schmidt is quite accurate as a coach who expects a lot from his players. I would also say that a lot of the team last season did NOT respond to Coach Schmidt's style of discipline and that's a good reason why last year's team did not gel as we would have hoped. Ideally we'd like to see Chance Moore's game continue to be inspired because he looked like a thoroughbred out there yesterday at times compared to a lot of ponies... We can make fake news articles with the opposing teams coach talking trash about Chance Moore for bulletin board material if we have to. Let's go!!! |
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Post by Chuck on Nov 11, 2024 8:08:16 GMT -5
This is precious, a poster who has been relentless in “talking trash” about Brett Rumpel, Osun, Dom, Jaren and Kyle accusing me of talking trash about a player with his “fake news” accusation.
— First of all unlike you I’m NOT making an accusation. I’m just providing statements from Schmidt and Chance. I’m leaving the decision to the reader.
— From Schmidt and Chance statements I see a possible explanation why Chance failed to reach the talent suggested by his press clippings. Unlike you I do NOT say this is it.
— Reggie Jackson comes to mind of a player, who needs to be engaged to play his best. Hence his nickname Mr. October.
I’m certain the extreme number of athletes do not like practice. A young player needs guidance to understand the importance of practice. It appears from Chance and Schmidt’s statement this has been lacking for Chance. It appears to me, Chance has discovered this with Schmidt with the result being he has developed into a star for the first 2 games. My post is NOT meant to be a criticism, but only understanding.
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Post by ceharv on Nov 11, 2024 10:11:04 GMT -5
A couple thoughts:
I think the Griff’s success at hitting deep threes was not the result of poor defense. The Bonnies were playing solid D, but a couple Grifs kept moving back and shooting from deeper to get away from defenders. More than a couple of the shots they hit were really not good shots. I think if an offense wants to just keep shooting from farther and farther from the hoop, you have to let them. They’re bad shots and chasing shooters risks fouling and giving up 3 free throws with players eventually fouling out and also takes at least one guard out of rebounding position for a team that relies heavily on guards rebounding. I think you just have to accept the possibility they may hit more of those shots than you’d like. But forcing very deep, low percentage shots that happen to go in is not bad defense. It’s what you want an opponent to do and usually works out well. It just hurts when a couple go in, keeping an opponent close in a game that otherwise would become a blow-out. We won, take it.
Also, I think Schmidt’s description of Moore as being “engaged” is just coach-speak for playing hard, which Moore did from the start of the game. Some poster somewhere here described Moore as another Stockard. One thing that Stockard was able to do regularly was score at really critical spots during the game, but Moore really hasn’t had that opportunity yet, so we’ll see if he can match Stockard’s propensity for clutch play. But boy I’d take that in a heartbeat, as it would help win games like Courtney did. The more Stockard-type players we have the better IMO.
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Post by proudbonnie89 on Nov 11, 2024 11:32:40 GMT -5
If Moore has the impact of Courtney Stockard that would be fantastic. That comparison hasn’t jumped out to me, which doesn’t mean it’s not a good compare, just not what I’ve thought yet. Chance is a more explosive athlete I think (after watching only 2 games). A closer compare for me is maybe Adaway??? Which I would also take, any day, if he impacts the Bonnies to that level.
Fun guy to watch and maybe he has a chance (haha) to be impactful to a higher degree as he isn’t surrounded by the established groups that Stockard and Adaway were. We’ll see!
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Post by kccgold on Nov 11, 2024 14:38:42 GMT -5
If Moore has the impact of Courtney Stockard that would be fantastic. That comparison hasn’t jumped out to me, which doesn’t mean it’s not a good compare, just not what I’ve thought yet. Chance is a more explosive athlete I think (after watching only 2 games). A closer compare for me is maybe Adaway??? Which I would also take, any day, if he impacts the Bonnies to that level. Fun guy to watch and maybe he has a chance (haha) to be impactful to a higher degree as he isn’t surrounded by the established groups that Stockard and Adaway were. We’ll see! 100%. I think he's more like Adaway than Stockard in terms of his style of play. Love them both though and can only dream of Moore having that type of impact |
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Post by bigcat on Nov 11, 2024 18:35:21 GMT -5
A couple thoughts: I think the Griff’s success at hitting deep threes was not the result of poor defense. The Bonnies were playing solid D, but a couple Grifs kept moving back and shooting from deeper to get away from defenders. More than a couple of the shots they hit were really not good shots. I think if an offense wants to just keep shooting from farther and farther from the hoop, you have to let them. You let them take those shots? I beg to differ. If a good shooter or shooters are left wide open and hit a bunch of deep shots it's not good D to ignore them. These current players have much better range than our forefathers. None of those shots the Griffs made from deep were bad shots. By your logic it is OK to let Caitlyn Clark and Jaylen Adams take/make wide open logo threes because they are not high-percentage shots for most people? Schmidt was not pleased with the defensive stretch that allowed CC back in the game. He did make an adjustment to stop the trailers who were left open. |
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Post by kccgold on Nov 11, 2024 18:49:51 GMT -5
A couple thoughts: I think the Griff’s success at hitting deep threes was not the result of poor defense. The Bonnies were playing solid D, but a couple Grifs kept moving back and shooting from deeper to get away from defenders. More than a couple of the shots they hit were really not good shots. I think if an offense wants to just keep shooting from farther and farther from the hoop, you have to let them. You let them take those shots? I beg to differ. If a good shooter or shooters are left wide open and hit a bunch of deep shots it's not good D to ignore them. These current players have much better range than our forefathers. None of those shots the Griffs made from deep were bad shots. By your logic it is OK to let Caitlyn Clark and Jaylen Adams take/make wide open logo threes because they are not high-percentage shots for most people? Schmidt was not pleased with the defensive stretch that allowed CC back in the game. He did make an adjustment to stop the trailers who were left open. Good lord dude … it’s Canisius not the Golden State Warriors |
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Post by ceharv on Nov 12, 2024 15:22:59 GMT -5
Bigcat - to answer your question, I absolutely would let most teams back up to the logo of any court to launch threes, First, I would know from studying their roster in advance whether there’s a Curry, Clark or Adams on their roster I need to worry about, and knowing our OOC and the A10 teams , I’d know there isn’t anyone like that. Even Jimmerson and Schulga in recent years don’t qualify. So if I see some modestly successful shooter hit a couple from out there while putting up some rushed shots which they hit despite failing to get their feet and shoulders squared to the hoop I let them keep shooting because I can be confident that if they shoot another 8 to 10 like that, they’re going to miss them all, which allows my team to have a 5 on 4 defensive advantage against the guys who are the real threats to score. So yes, we differ as I leave them wide open Anne dare them to shoot from the logo all they want.
Now if a legit deep shooting threat suddenly shows up (which we know won’t happen), I may change my defense accordingly.
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