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Post by gdub2009 on Dec 23, 2014 9:09:47 GMT -5
fjs64...the OOC schedule we have played gives me no idea how good or bad we are. If you look at our wins many pointed to Ohio. Well that "good" win is against a team sporting a 3-5 record as of today. Give me a 5-5 record and play three games against ACC, Big East and Big10 schools and you will know where our strengths and weaknesses lie. Come on WGT...we should be 8-2...take a look at who the 7 wins came against. CC, NU, Dartmouth, Jackson State, Ohio, Binghamton and Buffalo. I don't think that prepares you for league play. Let's knock off Delaware next week. Buffalo is about as good as UMass, so I would say that is a solid win, Canisius is an okay win, but yes other than that not too much to brag about.
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Post by kcSBU03 on Dec 23, 2014 9:10:34 GMT -5
Oh look another post about scheduling. Would you guys rather be 3-8 and have the season be over with by now? We beat Delaware, win 10 conference games and 1 game in Brooklyn and we are set up for some kind of post season. What is the problem?
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Post by thesenator on Dec 23, 2014 10:08:33 GMT -5
Couple more thoughts: I, like a lot of posters, like when the BONNIES go into 1-3-1 zone however if it is not causing turnovers, it leaves shooters open. I give UMES's coach a lot of credit of going smaller and having his best outside shooters out there. I t has been said on this board how much YOUSOO misses MARQUIS SIMMONS, tonight showed how much the team misses a SIMMONS like player. MYERS was a beast tonight, we really did not have a good match up against him. While COACH SCHMIDT likes the lean, athletic types, a little girth is needed out there at times and apparently DEES is not the answer. another guy whose absence made a difference out there tonight was jordan gathers...the veteran presence on the court...the stabiltiy...the ability to hit a big shot at a clutch time...when your guards are young (in terms of amount of d1 games under their belt) you have growing pains...but a-10 play is right around the corner and hopefully the 3 losses and the 10 games will result in a team that plays more minutes of quality ball...time will tell...
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Post by az63 on Dec 23, 2014 10:29:38 GMT -5
Couple more thoughts: I, like a lot of posters, like when the BONNIES go into 1-3-1 zone however if it is not causing turnovers, it leaves shooters open. I give UMES's coach a lot of credit of going smaller and having his best outside shooters out there. I t has been said on this board how much YOUSOO misses MARQUIS SIMMONS, tonight showed how much the team misses a SIMMONS like player. MYERS was a beast tonight, we really did not have a good match up against him. While COACH SCHMIDT likes the lean, athletic types, a little girth is needed out there at times and apparently DEES is not the answer. So why use it sip? Of all zones, the 1-3-1 is the easiest to break down. What's to like?
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Post by tomgleason on Dec 23, 2014 10:34:05 GMT -5
Yeah, yeah, yeah...bad loss...let's move on to Delaware...Jordan Gathers would've been nice to have out there...but guess what...he walked through that door over there (not saying he is healthy enough anyways)..since it's winter, may I remind you all to Let it go, let it go...
BTW...kinda hard to beat a team that is throwing up banked 3's, and trash that goes in...listened to UMES radio, because The Pig wasn't working...their announcers couldn't believe some of their shots were falling. ..they were referring to them winning as a "Christmas miracle"
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Post by 5and23 on Dec 23, 2014 10:47:41 GMT -5
The banked 3 ball is indeed some sign from above or below or elsewhere. When you start banking them in, you know that some other power is at work.
Still, 60 percent is disturbing. Makes you wonder if poor perimeter defense factored into that kind of accuracy. Maybe the D was solid and luck was directing all those shots in the hoop? Or were our guys not reacting in time to contest shots? I can't say. I guess you'd have to go back and look at the video (and good God, who could bear to do that?)
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Post by Sipowicz on Dec 23, 2014 10:52:41 GMT -5
az63 you will have to ask coach Schmidt not me. It does work sometimes against certain teams, was not working last night, should have gotten out of it sooner.
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Post by Chuck on Dec 23, 2014 10:58:12 GMT -5
It is like the year when all the experts said Villanova had to play a perfect game to upset Georgetown. Villanova played this perfect game and defeated Georgetown for National Championship. UMES shooting 58.8% from 3s is a big part of playing a perfect game. Many teams do not shoot this at the foul line, much less behind the arc. After taking the lead in the 2nd half I remember thinking why is this such a close game, because Marcus, Youssou and Dion are having great games. I think Bonnies should have gone inside more, especially at the end of the game. UMES could not defend Youssou and Dion inside, especially after Myers fouled out. UMES is a better team than their RPI indicates. They've won 5 of their last 7 games (including win over Fordham) and the 2 losses were to teams with current RPIs of 13 and 100. Mike Myers is a starting A-10 caliber player at power forward. When I read he weighed 245 pounds, I was expecting an overweight pudgy player (after all this was UMES I thought). I was stunned to see a 6'8" player with a chiseled body. My expectation of him was wrong as was all of ours of UMES. Have to add I can't believe 6'3" Ishaq Pitt. Probably the least athletic guard I've seen in D-I. Throughout the game he broke down the Bonnie defense with his extremely slow controlled drives to the basket and then pass it out for an open 3. Can't figure out how he kept his shots on drives to the hoop from being rejected by Youssou and Dion. This loss was not as bad as everyone thinks, because UMES is better than what we expected. warrennolan.com/basketball/2015/schedule/Maryland-Eastern-Shore
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Post by Pinnum on Dec 23, 2014 11:05:10 GMT -5
Chuck - I agree they are better than their record indicates. I posted the text below over on the A10 site when someone mentioned that VCU blew out UMES and another person responded that it helps when UMES played a game the night before and didn't get in to Richmond until 2AM.
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P5 conferences have been doing that for years with MEAC and SWAC level teams. The key is the level of pay for the guarantee.
Bonas: We have a date to fill and are willing to pay you $x to come play on this date. UMES: Sorry, we have a game already scheduled the night before. Bonas: Okay, we understand. Too bad. UMES: Yeah, sorry, keep us in mind for next year!
VCU: We have a date to fill and are willing to pay you $x to come play on this date. UMES: Sorry, we have a game already scheduled the night before. VCU: Okay, we can pay you $xx to come play then. UMES: Sounds good!
Best (or rather worst) story I ever heard was the underfunded D1 team that was playing a competitive game against another low level D1 team but had to fly across the country for a significant paydate with a power conference team immediately following the game. They were nervous that if the game went to over time they would miss their flight. The game didn't go to overtime and they went to the airport without showering because they didn't have time.
Most of these schools don't like playing the top programs but need the money to fund their conference schedule travel. In the VCU stretch, UMES played five games in nine days, all on the road, including two teams that were in the top-20 at the time. These conferences are typically not as bad as their records and RPI would have you believe because they are rarely put in situations that allow them to be competitive.
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Post by kcSBU03 on Dec 23, 2014 11:07:27 GMT -5
The 1-3-1 works great when you have guards that are prone to turning the ball over. UMES proved they could handle it and I agree that we should have ditched it sooner. We gave up too many open looks as a result. Pressing is always a dangerous game because if it gets beat, teams usually get easy buckets at the other end. UMES just came in and shot the lights out and couple with poor defense and effot added up to a loss. I am sick over it but in the long run it will not matter. The bigger games on the schedule still remain and that is where we need to win. Hopefully they learn from this. I expected 8-3 in the OOC, and I should get it, just not the way I intended.
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Post by Chuck on Dec 23, 2014 11:33:46 GMT -5
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Post by faffy444 on Dec 23, 2014 12:13:50 GMT -5
umes is a good team. watched them a few weeks ago defeat fordham at fordham. seem to be well coached too.am not surprised they beat bona. i think schmidt has got to do a better job managing this team. he is too reluctant to play some of his guys. right now they are too guard oreintated, dont get it into ndoye and wright enuf. needs to plat alston more, or he will have 2 very, very tired starting guards in about another month. i like cumberbatch but hes got to get more mental toughness moving forward. hes a very good rebounder, and defender but not tough enuf offensively. also need to bang a bit more on the inside so play dees a few more minutes. got to play your guys during ooc schedule, or you lose them in conference play as they arent ready.
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Post by gdub2009 on Dec 23, 2014 13:01:55 GMT -5
The 1-3-1 works great when you have guards that are prone to turning the ball over. UMES proved they could handle it and I agree that we should have ditched it sooner. Hitting 50 something percent from 3 was crazy for UMES, but I think UMES proving they could handle our pressure was the most shocking thing of the night. They came in turning the ball over 26% of the time. Almost worst in the nation. You would have never guessed this was the case last night.
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Post by kcSBU03 on Dec 23, 2014 13:06:46 GMT -5
The 1-3-1 works great when you have guards that are prone to turning the ball over. UMES proved they could handle it and I agree that we should have ditched it sooner. Hitting 50 something percent from 3 was crazy for UMES, but I think UMES proving they could handle our pressure was the most shocking thing of the night. They came in turning the ball over 26% of the time. Almost worst in the nation. You would have never guessed this was the case last night. Yea, prior to the game I figured we would feast on turnovers and cruise. For whatever reason they forgot that they turn the ball over all the time.
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Post by tastylicks on Dec 23, 2014 13:28:17 GMT -5
was that before they beat bonas or after?
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