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Post by firstdev on May 2, 2016 7:39:59 GMT -5
Where is the beef? Who are the candidates? Why so secretive? Typical of the Fort Duquesne approach - wall every one out.
President of the Faculty Senate excluded from the search committee, and the President of the Student Senate also excluded. Two major constituency groups removed from contributing to the process. Why? Because they may have independent views.
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Post by ceharv on May 2, 2016 8:41:44 GMT -5
In my experience dealing with executive-level job searches, the names of prospects are NEVER revealed for any number of reasons and there are ALWAYS groups or people whose nose is put out of joint for not being included in the process - There, I just double-violated one of Doc Jandoli's rules - "never say never and always avoid always."
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Post by sneakers on May 2, 2016 9:07:47 GMT -5
Go ahead and keep stirring the pot regardless of the facts. The search committee, in fact, is very open about what is going on as far as process and the people involved. Presidential searches must be held in confidence as many top candidates hold other jobs and are unwilling to apply for the position if that fact is to be made public. I assume we all want the best, most qualified field of candidates, right? The large majority of candidates who will be interviewed will ultimately not get the job, so one can understand their concern with their interest being made public. Confidentiality as to candidates is common in all searches of this magnitude until the end of the process. For those who may actually care about the process and the facts (rather than making up facts and slinging mud), there are updates posted regularly on the Bonas web site. In fact, everything I in this post is readily available on the University's web site for those wanting facts. Here is the latest update: www.sbu.edu/about-sbu/presidential-search The Chairman on the University's Board announced make up of the search committee a while ago. It is being co-chaired by Les Quick and Jim Myer, and both the faculty and the students have representation on the search committee. It is a simple matter of reading. Under the University Charter it is the Board of Trustees who has the ultimate authority to select and hire the President, but it will do so by working through a committee that has representation of the faculty, students and alumni, and after listening to what the University's students, faculty, alumni and local citizens have to say on the matter. Here is the committee make-up www.sbu.edu/about-sbu/presidential-search/presidential-search-committeeEarly in the process the committee announced that with a decision that is this important to the future of the University they are not going to rush to make a quick decision, but rather take the time and effort necessary to make sure to make an excellent selection who can carrry our University successfully into the future. There will be an interim President that serves for this upcoming year and a then a permanent President is expected for the '17-'18 school year. Although firstdev would have you believe otherwise, the Search Committee is currently holding "listening sessions" with all constituents (so much for not caring what anyone thinks). Here is their schedule for April (and more sessions will be held in the future): SATURDAY, APRIL 16 Search committee co-chairs and members meet with National Alumni Association Board. WEDNESDAY, APRIL 27 1 - 5 p.m. Search firm representatives meet with President, Cabinet and Deans THURSDAY, APRIL 28 Dresser Auditorium, Murphy Building Search firm representatives and search committee co-chairs and members meet with: 9 - 10 a.m. Faculty Senate 11:30 a.m.- 1 p.m. Members of the faculty at-large 1 - 2 p.m. Student Session #1 2:30 - 4 p.m. Hourly and Administrative Staff 5:30 - 6:30 p.m. Student Session #2 FRIDAY, APRIL 29 Search firm representatives and search committee co-chairs and members meet with: 8 - 9 a.m. Regional Community Leaders (by invitation), University Club, Magnano Centre 9 - 11 a.m. Individual meetings by appointment, Hayes Conference Room, Hopkins Hall 11:15 a.m.- Noon Friars from St. Bonaventure Friary and Holy Peace Friary (Mt. Irenaeus) to meet at SBU Friary. Noon - 1 p.m. Lunch at Friary In addition to the group meetings, there will be a limited number of individual appointments for those who are not able to attend the sessions for their constituent groups or for those who prefer to talk privately with search committee members. To schedule an individual meeting, contact Lori Yardman at Lyardman@sbu.edu.
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Post by fan4ever on May 2, 2016 9:36:02 GMT -5
Seems like a thorough and well thought out approach. Only question I have is why so long to recruit and hire a new Prez when Sister gave notice in January 2016? 18 months from time of notice (1/2016)to when new Prez would actually start (7/2017) seems pretty lengthy. But......if that is what is considered best then fine. Any info as to who the Interim Prez might be?
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Post by gdub2009 on May 2, 2016 9:39:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the info sneakers!
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Post by localfan on May 2, 2016 9:53:57 GMT -5
Where is the beef? Who are the candidates? Why so secretive? Typical of the Fort Duquesne approach - wall every one out. President of the Faculty Senate excluded from the search committee, and the President of the Student Senate also excluded. Two major constituency groups removed from contributing to the process. Why? Because they may have independent views. Firstdev - Just a small question here, but why does your signature solicit donations to the university if you are so upset with the university's "Fort Duquesne" approach? You're mad at the leadership but you want to give them money? Interesting approach.
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Post by firstdev on May 2, 2016 10:55:19 GMT -5
As I stated before and Sneakers confirmed in his note, the leaders of the two most important constituency groups on campus are not on the Presidential search committee. Namely the President of the Faculty Senate and the President of the Student Senate, both officials elected to leadership positions by their respective groups. That is regrettably a deliberate snub. Leaders specifically excluded. Way too much game playing going on here.
Wow and they gave the Friars all of forty-five minutes to meet with the search consultants. Forty-five minutes for our order. Unreal.
And yes we do need to continue to contribute to the Bonaventure Fund, the BAC, and Walsh High School and the Warming House. That is what we do. Administrations come and go like the seasons, but the Bonas is forever. Give generously. Our love of this great institution of Catholic, Franciscan higher learning will never be diminished.
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Post by sneakers on May 2, 2016 11:32:00 GMT -5
As I stated before and Sneakers confirmed in his note, the leaders of the two most important constituency groups on campus are not on the Presidential search committee. Namely the President of the Faculty Senate and the President of the Student Senate, both officials elected to leadership positions by their respective groups. That is regrettably a deliberate snub. Leaders specifically excluded. Way too much game playing going on here. Wow and they gave the Friars all of forty-five minutes to meet with the search consultants. Forty-five minutes for our order. Unreal. And yes we do need to continue to contribute to the Bonaventure Fund, the BAC, and Walsh High School and the Warming House. That is what we do. Administrations come and go like the seasons, but the Bonas is forever. Give generously. Our love of this great institution of Catholic, Franciscan higher learning will never be diminished. I hate to burst your bubble. Again. (I almost feel guilty as it is simply too easy since your posts lack any factual information and instead are full of you presumptions, biases and vitriol). The Faculty Senate was consulted in the appointment the two faculty members on the Search Committee. They were asked to provide one faculty member with over 10 years of tenure and one with fewer than ten years tenure (with the idea that both older and younger faculty members would have input into this important decision). Their not selecting the President as their representative is not the fault of the University. Likewise, the Student Government Association was consulted with the selection of an appropriate student representative. Since this could be a multi-year commitment, they did not choose an upper classman. By the way, the Presidents of the Faculty Senate and the SGA are already committed to performing very time consuming and important duties for the University. Perhaps their having such a full plate may have factored into the selection of other representatives of their organizations for the Committee. As for the Friars, they obviously have virtually unlimited input in this process. To say they have 45 minutes to voice their thoughts is simply foolish, and you know it. It is your way to twist the facts. The above calendar is only April. There will be on-going meetings for months. In addition, there are five Friars that are members of the Board of Trustees. They have input into the final selection. They also have votes. Further, the Very Reverend Kevin Mullen, who is the former President of Siena College and the current Provincial of the Holy Name Province, is an active member of the Presidential Search Committee. Being a former University President of a Franciscan University, his thoughts, opinion and experience are of the utmost importance to the Committee. It seems that the only thing I have ever agreed with you about is your last paragraph. Go Bonas!
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Post by localfan on May 2, 2016 11:54:08 GMT -5
As I stated before and Sneakers confirmed in his note, the leaders of the two most important constituency groups on campus are not on the Presidential search committee. Namely the President of the Faculty Senate and the President of the Student Senate, both officials elected to leadership positions by their respective groups. That is regrettably a deliberate snub. Leaders specifically excluded. Way too much game playing going on here. Wow and they gave the Friars all of forty-five minutes to meet with the search consultants. Forty-five minutes for our order. Unreal. And yes we do need to continue to contribute to the Bonaventure Fund, the BAC, and Walsh High School and the Warming House. That is what we do. Administrations come and go like the seasons, but the Bonas is forever. Give generously. Our love of this great institution of Catholic, Franciscan higher learning will never be diminished. I hate to burst your bubble. Again. (I almost feel guilty as it is simply too easy since your posts lack any factual information and instead are full of you presumptions, biases and vitriol). The Faculty Senate was consulted in the appointment the two faculty members on the Search Committee. They were asked to provide one faculty member with over 10 years of tenure and one with fewer than ten years tenure (with the idea that both older and younger faculty members would have input into this important decision). Their not selecting the President as their representative is not the fault of the University. Likewise, the Student Government Association was consulted with the selection of an appropriate student representative. Since this could be a multi-year commitment, they did not choose an upper classman. By the way, the Presidents of the Faculty Senate and the SGA are already committed to performing very time consuming and important duties for the University. Perhaps their having such a full plate may have factored into the selection of other representatives of their organizations for the Committee. As for the Friars, they obviously have virtually unlimited input in this process. To say they have 45 minutes to voice their thoughts is simply foolish, and you know it. It is your way to twist the facts. Teh above calendar is only April. There will be on-going meetings for months. In addition, there are five Friars that are respected members of the Board of Trustees. They have final input into the final selection. They also have votes. Further, the Very Reverend Kevin Mullen, who is the former President of Siena College and the current Provincial of the Holy Name Province, is an active member of the Presidential Search Committee. Being a former University President of a Franciscan University, his thoughts, opinion and experience are of the utmost importance to the Committee. It seems that the only thing I have ever agreed with you about is your last paragraph. Go Bonas! Sneakers, Thank you for providing facts to the situation. Firstdev, Your passion for St. Bonaventure is commendable, but if there are two things I've learned at Bonas: 1.) Is to research and understand situations before commenting on them and 2.) Forgive those who you feel have wronged you. I'm not sure what "Fort Duquesne" did to you, but I certainly feel that maybe it's time to move on. Happy Spring.
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Post by agoo on May 2, 2016 11:59:14 GMT -5
Having been on a variety of campuses for a number of high profile searches, those elected folks (SGA and Faculty Senate) are rarely directly on the committee. The time commitments of those positions, coupled with the time commitment of their official roles on campus make it nearly impossible to dedicate the time and energy needed for a search committee of this importance. I'm sure they were directly consulted in selecting the student and faculty representatives to the committee.
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Post by firstdev on May 2, 2016 14:57:10 GMT -5
Nice try Sneakers but you have zero credibility on this board. UBTK, Bona World, Bonahil, China and Brazil recruiting over NE and MW Catholic outreach etc.etc. Oh did I mention the number 395?
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Post by fjs64 on May 2, 2016 15:07:52 GMT -5
Nice try Sneakers but you have zero credibility on this board. UBTK, Bona World, Bonahil, China and Brazil recruiting over NE and MW Catholic outreach etc.etc. Oh did I mention the number 395? False....you are the one without the credibility
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Post by tastylicks on May 2, 2016 15:42:46 GMT -5
Nice try Sneakers but you have zero credibility on this board. UBTK, Bona World, Bonahil, China and Brazil recruiting over NE and MW Catholic outreach etc.etc. Oh did I mention the number 395? firstdev he just ripped your complaint to shreds with actual proof we can read for ourselves. In this case it isn't even a him vs. you thing its you vs. the truth. now you resort to bringing up other unrelated stuff? I mean its hard for me to take you seriously here
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Post by Jimmy Chitwood on May 2, 2016 16:20:47 GMT -5
Nice try Sneakers but you have zero credibility on this board. UBTK, Bona World, Bonahil, China and Brazil recruiting over NE and MW Catholic outreach etc.etc. Oh did I mention the number 395? Sneakers has no credibility on this board? You have lost touch with reality. Perhaps your vitriol has erased your ability to be reasonable.
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Post by firstdev on May 2, 2016 17:07:33 GMT -5
Yea, yea , yea - more water shifting from the the Lord Chamberlain of the Inner Circle. This crew has had their chance at leadership, and the results have not been positive. Oh did I mention the number 395? By the way Sneakers own schedule lists 45 minutes for the Friars, not mine. Pathetic. Here is the list of problems that sapped energy and finances from SBU (decisions made with very little input from the community): + Bona World - failed mission to turn Bona into a shopping strip mall, property consisting of the former Castle property later sold to a bank holding company
+ Bonahil merger - This merger proposal tied up university resources for over two years. Very limited input from the community, despite the that fact the mission took on a life of its own. Hundreds of thousands wasted on this effort, not to mention thousands of hours of staff work diverted from supporting our community. No university convocation. Proposal would have cut faculty salaries. Oh boy.
+ UBTK - Where do we start? How about bogus A10 letter about Bona student fans and their legendary behavior used by the newly minted AD to sell, yes I know its hard to believe, premium seats in FRONT of the student section. A complete farce, again no input solicited or required from the community. Followed by the apparent mass resignation of the entire AT staff - a mere coincidence though according the the Lord Chamberlain of the Privy Council. Not to mention the insulting treatment of decades long season ticket holders who were told to get lost so some high rollers could park their MB's closer to the RC - oh those picky 89 year old fans, don't they know their place in the big picture? More to come from UBTK as he "settles" into the job - did I mention that a Bona alum was in the running for the job?
+ New Outreach/Worship Center - Yup, the inner circle at work again on this new structure, and here is the kicker - the main meeting area will contain no symbols of our Catholic faith or Franciscan devotion. Apparently the crew is readying campus for the masses of Chinese or Brazilian students who may be devoted to Buddist or Pagan traditions? Any way a new first - our first campus building officially to be agnostic. Wow what a breakthrough! Holy smokes.
+ Enrollment - under the crack Ft Duke team our frosh enrollment has continued to plummet and is now at a new all time low of 395. The Ft Duke solution, no I am not making this up.....recruit not in the NE and MW in Catholic parishes, high schools, communities, jc's, cyo's, etc,etc.......its China and Brazil. Again no input just more pandering to some demographic excuse making. Maybe the financial resources devoted to Bonahil should have used on recruiting efforts in Catholic communities (sorry to repeat Catholic, but we are a Catholic university right?)
+ Presidential Succession - Now we are told we need 18 months to pick a successor to the retiring number one. Really - no succession plan was developed? No convocation to gain input from the community was held by the Privy Council. Oh yes I forgot convocations are so messy. You even have members of the community attending and making statements that may be unscripted, and expressing views that may be sincere but are contrary to the views of the inner circle. Oh my can't have that now can we. No convocations from this crew.
+ Swan Building - different date, same story. In this one the community meetings with SMC (actually she only attended one community forum, she was a no show for the daytime event) were held only after plans for the building and its controversial site had been finalized, and only after faculty and community protests. In fact construction was one week away when the community meetings with alums, faculty and FOSBU were held! Go figure? Enough said, perfectly consistent abhorrent behavior.
I can't wait for the new President to be installed, via university convocation of course! Stay tuned. Better times are on the way.
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